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My 16 Week old is still pooping and peeing in her crate I am beside myself and I about ready to give up. I have tried and tried to have patience with this potty training thing. I feel like we got our yorkie from a puppy mill, only we paid almost 2000.00 for her from a "show breeder". Obviously she was raised like she lived in a pet store because our puppy is a nightmare to housetrain. She poops in her kennel and pees, she jumped on my sofa and pooped, she pooped on my bed pillow. I had a yorkie before that would have NEVER pooped in her bed in her crate! So what the heck is wrong with this dog and will she ever get it? I take her out constantly to go potty and give her treats when she goes and she has done it like 100 hundred times, but obviously it is not registering with her that she is supposed to go outside and why would she be ok with pooping in her own bed? It makes me so upset that we spent so much money for a dog that the breeder did nothing for as far as training. |
how long have you had her? how long is she in her crate? |
Does she have loose stool? It sounds like she may have a problem...something is wrong. I would have her stool checked by your vet (if you haven't done so recently). It's not unusual for pups from breeders to have parasites which will cause diarrhea, or at first, loose stool. If this is the case, your pup will not want to be in the crate since she will need to go often, ... this is only a guess :) |
are you free feeding her? or do you take it up after 30 minutes of feeding? what kind of food are you giving her it may upset her system. some yorkies suffer terribly from unbalanced food. you shouldn't bring them back in the house till they have pooped outside after meals. have you tried to use pittle pads. or a spot indoors to use the potty. I know its frustrating but this breed of dog is not always the easy ones. But Im sure you know that b/c you did the research before buying. As stated in other post she could have some health issues that are causing the problem. Since shes 16 weeks old I also guess that shes been to the vet. did they take a stool sample? if not drop one off to the vet this week. You don't actually have to take her in unless theres a problem then they can give her meds. if needed. |
She is young, give her time. They can't hold it and if she has to go and is in her crate she has no choice. Take love, time, and patience. Just think of her as a baby, she will get there. why not move her to a expen and put the crate in there with the door open , that way if she has to go she can go on a pad, until she gets it down and/or can hold it longer. Just remember...just a baby :) I know it can be frustrating but they don't understand and just want to give and get love :) |
Something is not right, so lets try to figure this out and get your little one to "get it". What size crate do you have her in? It should only have enough room for her to turn around and lay down. She should also not be kept in the crate for longer then 20 minutes if she has not peed. How often are you taking her out and for how long? When you are crate training she needs to be taken outside for potty every 20 minutes. Pick her up and put her on the ground and tell her "go potty". If she doesn't go within 5 minutes take her back in the house and either into the crate or tethers to your side at all times. If she potties give immediate treats and praise. If she doesn't potty at your side or in the crate. Do not let her have free rein of your house until she is fully trained. At 16 weeks she is way too young to be any where near fully house trained. You need to be consistent with training or she will never learn. |
I went back and read your earlier post... I'm wondering what happened to the adult female yorkie you had last month? Do you still have her also? |
16 weeks or 16 months? If 16 weeks, you've only just started with training! How old was she when you got her? |
mmmmm she said 16 weeks...........................:) |
MY yorkie is 1 year and still isn't potty trained! |
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You have a BABY, did you expect your children to be potty trained by 6 months? Asking that of a tiny 16 week old puppy is the same as expecting your children to be trained. It takes time, and tonsssssssssss of patience and lots of commitment and consistency. Puppies DO poop and pee in their crates sometimes, it is an old wives tale that a dog will not potty where they sleep. if they have to go, they are going to go. It doesn't mean it's the breeders fault. It is your own actually. They will eventually stop. i have been through it many times. When our dogs and pups have accidents it is usually our own fault is what i am trying to say. Yorkies, like any toy dog, mature much slower than larger breeds so they also learn slower (for the most part). They take much longer to potty train too. I have a 5 year old that still has accidents and she came from a good breeder and has no health issues. What made a difference for us is putting in a doggy door. We put it through our wall out to the deck and now the little ones are using it even our tiny 5 year old yorkie and our 2 year old tiny chihuahua.. You haven't give this puppy time to adjust to a new home and life and routine, instead you blame the breeder like you did with the last yorkie you bought. I have noticed you have posted several times and then do not come back to the thread. If you want help, then stick around and take advice given. PLEASE STOP blaming the poor puppy! Maybe you should forget about toy breeds and get a larger dog, they are much easier to train.. |
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I was never blaming the breeder until I called 3 different reputable yorkie breeders and an in home dog trainer. They all gave me the exact same response, that it must have been the conditions the puppy was raised in, much like that of a pet store dog. She does not have loose stool. I take her out to pee and she does and I praise her so much give her a treat then immediatlely she pees in her crate or poops. She will hold her poop literally for like 5 hours then when I put her in the crate she poops. I did start putting her in the Xpen with her potty pad and bed and she goes on the potty pad then lays on it. It's like she doesn't even mind the smell of her pee or poop. We have caught her eating her poop. If I let her in my house to walk she will poop on my things. I guess all I have is the advice you get in books that says this behavior is not normal. And for the poster that said I have no patience all I can say is you are sadly mistaken. I love this puppy and that is why I am even taking the time to post on here to get help. Unfortunately I think there are way too many people out there breeding yorkies that have absolutely no idea how to raise "pets" for people because they give the puppies NO attention and then expect the puppies to learn when we get them after they are already programmed. |
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Try not to be upset with her - she probably knows no better and as she matures I bet she will eventually catch on.....just keep your patience level way up there and keep up with the praise. I've never crate trained but if I had I'd limit the time in a crate. They're so much happier with some freedom and also want to please US so don't give up !! It took my oldest 2 weeks to be completely trained - my youngest 11 months - go figure ! She still has little accidents but she tries very hard not too. I work all day so it's a bit harder to keep up with her especially when it rains but when she does have an 'accident' - she knows it and always runs out to her 'place' on my patio to show me she didn't mean it - it's hard to be upset when you know they really want to be good. I just want to say again - she's very young. Some never really train but as she matures she'll probably be more receptive to going where you want her too. sorry this is so long - getting ready for work and shouldn't even be here right now ! ps - many breeders whether show breeders or not do keep their pets in cages or crates - wish it wasn't true but they do. You really never know and hope for the best but not all out there believe in training - they just want to sell puppies. |
where did you get this puppy from? do you have a link you can share? |
Your baby is only 16 weeks old. That is not near old enough for her to be housetrained. I never even really start until they are 6 months old, otherwise it just makes them a nervous wreck. My little boy is 25 weeks old and he is learning but he is not housetrained yet. I have caught him eating poop more than once. Some puppies just do that and they usually out grow it. I do not use a crate, he sleeps in the bed with me. It only took about 3 weeks for him to learn that I was very displeased when he pooped or peed in my bed. He doesn't do that anymore. He wakes me up when he starts figeting and I take him out. Please dont get too upset with your baby, she will learn, but it will take time. Small dogs sometimes take over a year to be able to hold it and have complete control of their pee and poop.:) |
Unfortunately I think there are way too many people out there breeding yorkies that have absolutely no idea how to raise "pets" for people because they give the puppies NO attention and then expect the puppies to learn when we get them after they are already programmed. First off, let me mention to you that a Yorkshire Terrier is one of the hardest dogs to housetrain. Some never "Get It". Pet Store puppies are no different than breeder puppies when it comes to house training I would also like to add. Buddy was from a pet store and I got him at 14wks. Within 4 wks he was fully housetrained and has never peed or pooped in the house since then and he is now 6yrs old. Please have patience. Purchasing a puppy from a breeder does not mean your going to get a housebroken puppy. The amount of money you spend also does not get you a housebroken puppy. Your puppy is an infant. It is important to be consistant, give lot's of love and praise. You have been given great information and hopefully it will help you to get the puppy trained. Your not alone, so hang in there. Bad habits can be broken. |
I am really sorry you are frustrated. I have been around dogs my whole life, and currently have a 7 mo old that has been among the most challenging I have ever had. She doesn't care if she is dirty, and even prefers to be dirty. Eats her poop, the whole nine yards.... Any training is very slow going with her, and I have to work so hard at being consistent. If she gets something, then regresses back we take a step back to that point in her training and do it over for a while. If your baby is pooping in places that are uncommon for a new puppy, like your bed pillow or your sofa, don't allow her access to those places. Also, three years ago my daughter brought home a puppy mill puppy against my will. This baby had never seen the outside of a crate until she got to us. She was the easiest, and fastest I have ever house trained, and to this day one of the most dependable I have ever had. Boy, how I love that dog!!! Good luck with your baby. It will get there.... |
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My point exactally. It really does not make a difference where the puppy comes from, regading house training them, it's all about the individual dog itself. Some are easy, some take some work, other's won't cooperate at all. I hope your puppy is #1 or #2. |
Thank you so much to everyone for the advice! I guess my only question is how can I train her to go outside to pee and poop if I leave her in the xpen with a puppy pad to pee on. That would work if I wanted to teach her to go on potty pads, but I want to train her to ring the bell and go outside. It seems like she would never really learn to "hold it" and then when I do take her outside she won't need to go. Does that make sense? The whole idea of the crate is to teach her to hold it til you can take her out where you want her to go, but that won't work either if she will just pee in it. Her crate I was using is super tiny and we blocked half of it off so she could just turn around and she still peed and pooped in it. |
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Ok maybe this will help you. It is said that a puppy can hold it's bladder for 1hr for every month of it's age. So if you puppy is 12wks you can not expect your puppy to hold it's bladder for longer than 1 1/2 hrs. Does that help. Also, IF there is water available in her crate even that won't work. I think your expecting just too much too soon. Of course offer her water and if she drinks back out 20-25 mins later. If your home you need to get her out every 20mins for a couple of days. I took a week off and went up and down 15 steps every 20-25mins with a 14wk old to get him use to going outside. Treat, treat, treat. Give a treat, only a special one that is used to potty outdoors. Something she loves and looks forward too. Like a small piece of chicken, a lick of peanut butter immediately after she pees or poops and then do a happy dance. They understand when they do something good. She can not be in her crate for longer than an hr after doing potting outside or she will have an accident. Hope that helps. |
I use to think that it didn't make a difference where the dog came from in ease of training, but after talking with Mardelen (Mary) I've changed my mind. She says that she doesn't train the pups, the mother does, and she has watched the mothers nudge the puppies over to the pee pad. Since reputable breeders keep mothers and puppies together way past the weaning period, it may be that this makes it easier to train a pup. Joey knew what the pad was and sought it out when we placed him in his playpen; if it were within three or so feet from him he would try and find it. So pet store puppies may have a harder time of "getting it" because they often leave mama much earlier, and mama is probably not trained herself. Have you tried talking to the breeder about the problem? Remember just because someone shows, it doesn't make the reputable, you can learn more about her enthusiasm for the breed by asking for her advice. I have also read that the crate used for training must not be too large. They need to think of the crate as a bed, not an apartment, where they can poop on one side and sleep on another. The crate should be no bigger than for them to stand up turn around in. We used a small carrier for overnight training, and took him out once or twice during the night and placed him on the pee pad. During the day, unless I had both eyes on him, we kept him in a play pen with a pee pad. This site has some great tips. Indoor Potty Training - Papers, Pee Pads, Litter Boxes and more |
So let me make sure I understand you clearly. You want to have no indoor potty options at all for your dog. Are you a stay at home mom? Are you in the house durring the day every day? Second when you do take your puppy out do you walk it or just sit it down and wait? Walking helps stimulate the bowels. It's also not play time. Don't distract her from her mission. Altho rewarding her with play time after her job is done is fine. What are you plans when the weather is bad? When its raining or snowing? Alot of yorkies will not use the potty in bad weather. Not all but alot. |
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She's 16 weeks for crying out loud! If she's peeing and pooping in her crate, it's most likely (if things like worms/ GI disturbances have been ruled out) because you keeping her in there too long and/or her crate is too big for her needs right now. Rhett and Oliver came from abysmal conditions. Rhett (17 weeks) is completely crate trained and only has occasional house accidents that are ALWAYS my fault because I missed the signs that he needed to go in between his normal outings. I also stick to a pretty tight food/water schedule while we are both in this learning stage. He sleeps from 10:30- 6:00 with no night time accidents (except when he was ill 2 weeks ago). Oliver (23 weeks) took longer to crate train, but once his crate was moved to a bathroom with a wee pad and the crate door left open it "clicked" for him. He still has occasional house accidents, but that's because my dad isn't fast enough getting his lead on. Wee pads at the front and back door are helping, but it's just going to take him longer. My parents also free feed/water. That's probably compounding the problem because they don't really know when it's his "time" to go. The point is, they have tiny bladders at that age. Their GI system runs like clockwork with eating and pooping. Set them up for success by working with that system. Have you called the breeder and asked her what her schedule was? I'm sure she'd be willing to tell you. And I don't care how much you paid for a dog, $2000 or free out of the walmart parking lot, if you aren't consistent and patient it's just going to take longer. You might also want to consider a book called "How to Housebreak Your Dog in 7 Days". He stresses consistency and working with the puppy's natural flow, so to speak. |
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Why don't you speak with your pups breeder and not 3 other breeders and a trainer? Or have you tried and she is ignoring you? If you don't want her to poop on your things, confine her area when she is out of the crate. Xpen or baby gates. Keep the area VERY small. Your posts do read as you are giving up (your first post in this thread). How long have you had this pup/how old was she when you got her? How long have you been trying? Not long for sure. Even if you had this pup since the day it was born, it wouldn't have been very long you have been trying to potty train. You can't give up. Even though there ARE too many breeders breeding yorkies, it's not really their responsibility to "raise pets for people". It's YOUR responsiblity to raise YOUR pet the way you want her to behave. Just bc a breeder gave their puppies tons of attention or no attention, that does not make them hard wired to not receive any more training after they leave. I don't believe they can be programmed for life in the short amount of time they are with the breeder. It is your job to train your dog. Katie, my foster is not 100% trained. I take her out every hour or so. She is 6 yrs old. I have had her more a bit over 2 months. She went from going all the time, with no pattern, to going all the time when I take her outside. I am also trying to train on pads inside, for example it's 3am and I don't want to go outside. She gets it sometimes, but if she has an accident at a decent hour, it's MY fault for not paying attention and watching her signs. Keep your pup on a feeding schedule. Same time in, same time out. How many hours are you home/gone? |
Wow, I got Lizzie when she was nine months old, had already had two homes and wan't housetrained or crate trained. Even at that age, it took me months and a bunch of time outdoors with her to get her trained. I think you need to adjust your expectations for getting her housetrained. If your puppy is peeing super frequently, I would even get her checked for a urinary tract infection. I know, trust me I know how frustrating it is to come home all the time and have to clean puppy and crate. This is one of those things you may have to grin and bear for a little while. YOU MUST keep the crate and her bedding scrupulously clean because you don't want her to mature and accept a dirty crate. The key here is mature. Right now she is still a tiny baby and she probably doesn't recognize the body clues that she has to go out. DON'T ever punish her for going in the house, it will make her afraid to go in front of you and make matters worse. I always keep an eagle eye on the puppy, and to do that, I keep her/him on a leash. When you see the puppy get sniffy, or start walking funny, sometimes slowing down to squat, whatever signal, you take the puppy out and give lots of praise and a good treat when she does her thing. Not an okay treat, a good treat, one she loves. Every dog, even a puppy does something to signal they have to go out. With puppies, you need to take them out every time they wake up after sleeping, after playing, after eating, and first thing in the morning. If your puppy pees on the floor or poops on the couch, it is your fault. You weren't watching the puppy well. It takes a ton of effort to get a puppy really well housetrained and I think you will probably have to take her out many, many more times before you can consider her reliably housetrained, and then you only get what you put into it. |
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Yes, I am a stay-at home mom. I take her out every 15 minutes or so. Like I said she does use the puppy pad all the time, but how can I teach her to go outside if I offer her a place to go inside and she never learns to wait to go outside. There are a lot of people on this site who are quick to attack people who post. That is one reason I always hesitate, but I thought this would be the best place to seek training tips for yorkies. I have spoken with the breeder and she told me to call a dog trainer, which I did and that trainer told me if it were her she would take it back to the breeder because I would never be able to housetrain a dog that would poop in it's own crate which is super tiny. I sat outside with her today and my daughter for 2 hours and she would never poop until I brought her inside to her xpen. So maybe she will get it eventually and I am being patient, but it's hard when other breeders and a professional dog trainer told me her behavior was not normal. I love her and will take all the time in the world with her to train her, but I guess I feel like I am doing something wrong. Everyone I talk to says they have never had a dog poop in it's own crate. It is not because she is not given the opportunity to go outside or kept in her crate too long. |
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