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Tammyb 02-24-2010 02:32 AM

Yelping and crying when left alone!!!
 
Ok guys I really need your help. I have an 8 week old puppy who I have had for just over a week. He is a serious howler when left alone. He has a long term confinement area in the kitchen aswell as a short term crate which is where his bed is.

My problem is that at night when I put him into his bed and shut the kitchen door he barks and whines, he also then starts up periodically throughout the night. He will also go crazy in the morning.

I am ignoring him and not giving the attention any behaviour but as we live in a small house his yelping is REALLY loud. It's keeping me up at night and is disturbing my little boys sleep (he's one). Also in the morning I need to get into the kitchen to get my babys bottle but as the dog is screaming his head off I can't go in. He goes on for hours so if I wait for him to stop I'd never get ready in time for work! Also my LO is not going to wait for his milk! Its really starting to get me down and I'm not sure how to stop the behaviour.

Any help would be much appreciated. :(

Tammyb 02-24-2010 04:51 AM

Anyone???

red98vett 02-24-2010 04:53 AM

hey there....I'm just going to put this out there- you said long term confinement when you're home and then you also work ? He's just a tiny puppy and very young.....He's been taken from all he knows - (littermates and mom) and he is lonely !

He needs to be with you more - not alone in some room for long periods of time....Puppies need activity and interaction .....he's telling you he's unhappy and you can adjust where he is so maybe he feels more comfortable

I never crate trained but there's lots of info here on how to do it - but I'd def rethink how much time he's confined ...personally I couldn't let a puppy cry like this -

I tried a playpen for sleeping in when we got my youngest and she screamed her head off too and yes - they can be LOUD - it took 15 minutes and I caved....She turned into a totally different puppy once she was cuddled next to me and she slept all night - all she wanted was human interaction

ps ..you could try bringing him in your bedroom at night next to you - that may help him feel more secure rather than being alone in the kitchen

Tammyb 02-24-2010 05:10 AM

Hiya red, thanks for your reply. Sorry perhaps I wasn't being clear, Dexter is not kept in the kitchen all of the time only when I need him to be confined for 15 minutes or so (usually when i am getting my son dressed as he jumps all over us) the rest of the time he is in the house with us!

Its these short periods where he goes nuts! I know that he wants my company but as he is not house trained he can't be with my constantly. Is there are periods when I cant keep an eye on him say when I'm eating dinner with my husband I need to be able to confine him just for a max of half an hour. Also the first week I was at home the whole time Dexter so he had plenty of company. Even now that I am back at work my husband goes home at dinner and is there with Dexter out and about for an hour and a half. Also today he is at doggy daycare at my sisters! Also i don't work on fridays so he also has company then.

I actually work for myself and had planned to bring dexter to work with me but as i would need him to stay in the kitchen at certain points during the day I can't bring him due to his yelping! So he's not left alone for hours on end every day of the week it's just certain points during the day when i need him to entertain himself!

Also again as he is not potty trained I cant have him in my bedroom at night. Hope that makes a bit more sense, sorry if I wasnt clear before!

red98vett 02-24-2010 05:26 AM

got ya !! and that's good - There's lots of others that can probably help more - but have you thought of something you can move around so he's closer to you ? I know lots of people crate train - along with the 'pads' in the crate - with food toys etc so it's a thought.....Like I said - I didn't crate train only because of my smallest was the same - I swear I never dreamed such a tiny puppy could make so much noise :D

my situation was different at the time - I was home so I could always keep my eyes on both of mine when they were puppies....they're so much different that larger breeds so it's a learning process no matter how you look at it - what works for some may not work for others...

mychico4 02-24-2010 01:52 PM

I have the same problem!!
 
Hey TammyB,
I just recently bought a now 10 1/2 week yorkie poodle female that yelps like crazy. I've had her now for about 3 weeks. She is so sweet and quiet when you take her out to play but otherwise she has a fit. I am trying to kennel and potty train her. I previously had a yorkie terrier who was alot easier to train for some reason maybe because he was a boy. And I got him when he was 5 months. I am looking for help also. I have been putting her on our schedule with kennel/potty and she is usually fine during the work day but if I'm off work during my normal work schedule she has a fit if she hears me. And its not a protective yelp its a "get me out of here" yelp. I don't know what to do but it is so annoying. She is starting to bark maybe 30 minutes then stop but it times she will bark forever. But I discipline her by putting her in a different room in her kennel and she will be quiet for the most part. UGHHHHH! Help me!! The first week I had her I only got about 3 hours of sleep. So it is getting a little bit better, I guess....

mychico4 02-24-2010 02:00 PM

Also, the breeder of the yorkie poodle said her daughter used to sleep with the pup at night so that made is a hard adjustment as well. Especially since I am trying to kennel train her.

tortoisekeeper 02-24-2010 02:31 PM

You could try one of those stuffed bears for babies that have a heartbeat sound (I get them at Wal Mart in the baby section), or wrap an wind up clock that ticks in a blanket for when they have to be alone.

Tammyb 02-24-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mychico4 (Post 3016569)
Hey TammyB,
I just recently bought a now 10 1/2 week yorkie poodle female that yelps like crazy. I've had her now for about 3 weeks. She is so sweet and quiet when you take her out to play but otherwise she has a fit. I am trying to kennel and potty train her. I previously had a yorkie terrier who was alot easier to train for some reason maybe because he was a boy. And I got him when he was 5 months. I am looking for help also. I have been putting her on our schedule with kennel/potty and she is usually fine during the work day but if I'm off work during my normal work schedule she has a fit if she hears me. And its not a protective yelp its a "get me out of here" yelp. I don't know what to do but it is so annoying. She is starting to bark maybe 30 minutes then stop but it times she will bark forever. But I discipline her by putting her in a different room in her kennel and she will be quiet for the most part. UGHHHHH! Help me!! The first week I had her I only got about 3 hours of sleep. So it is getting a little bit better, I guess....


I really do sympathise! lol I know how it feels so I hope we both get some help here! Also Dex does have a ticking clock in bed with him as someone else suggested the idea. I have wrapped it in a big fluffy sock which he can cuddle up to. I also have the radio on to keep him company, he has one of my old tshirts in bed with him and i've tried a hot water bottle. So far nothing has helped to calm him enough :/ Oh and I have DAP spray which I'm using.

Someone suggested that I ignore him so he becomes less reliant on me. But this feels a bit mean. Has anyone tried this method?

Patti 02-24-2010 02:48 PM

Hi, I see you are from Stoke. my Mom was born and raised in Stoke on Trent! As far as the crying at night, what I did was keep mine in a doggie playpen next to my bed with a pee pad on one side and bedding on the other. Some did fine like that and one would wake during the night and i would put her in a travel crate right next to me and she would settle down. After a few weeks most get use to their crates/playpen and settle down. Your baby is still very young and it will get better. When you are awake and busy try keeping him in an area where he can see you. Hopefully others will have some advice.

ziggy925 02-24-2010 08:04 PM

My little guy would cry and whine when I went out of his sight, even behind the shower curtain. He eventually got over it, but it took awhile. Pups that age need to know you are there. Over time you can use a crate, we're working on that now, and you can crate your dog and walk away without problems. Still, you can't expect to leave a pup alone for long periods. Ruger has been crated overnight now with no problems, but I try and keep crating during the day to two hours max. Fortunately my job allows me to do this.

red98vett 02-25-2010 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mychico4 (Post 3016569)
Hey TammyB,
I just recently bought a now 10 1/2 week yorkie poodle female that yelps like crazy. I've had her now for about 3 weeks. She is so sweet and quiet when you take her out to play but otherwise she has a fit. I am trying to kennel and potty train her. I previously had a yorkie terrier who was alot easier to train for some reason maybe because he was a boy. And I got him when he was 5 months. I am looking for help also. I have been putting her on our schedule with kennel/potty and she is usually fine during the work day but if I'm off work during my normal work schedule she has a fit if she hears me. And its not a protective yelp its a "get me out of here" yelp. I don't know what to do but it is so annoying. She is starting to bark maybe 30 minutes then stop but it times she will bark forever. But I discipline her by putting her in a different room in her kennel and she will be quiet for the most part. UGHHHHH! Help me!! The first week I had her I only got about 3 hours of sleep. So it is getting a little bit better, I guess....


hey there !! there's alot of information on crate training (which I said earlier I didn't do) but one of the most important things is to not use them for discipline - you want them to see their crate as a 'safe' place - not as punishment....these little dogs just want to be around us for the most part - all the 'get me out of here' cries are for just that reason.

I caved with mine - especially my youngest when she did it and let her sleep with me - but that isn't for everyone - I'm a super light sleeper and was always aware I had a tiny puppy next to me - plus had to get up every 2 hours to let her use her pad - but don't think a heavy sleeper should do this - and as I said - not everyone thinks this is the way to do things but I'm a woose :) - I couldn't bear the very LOUD 'Get me outta here' yells

HarleyHOO 02-25-2010 05:05 AM

I also recommend the heartbeat pillow...it worked wonders for my girl. BUT, like redvett said, what works for others may not work for all.

On a separate note ~ I do not think ignoring them when they cry is "mean." As long as you know that they're not hungry, thirsty or have to go potty, then let her cry. I know that this is hard because we want to comfort them. But, just like a baby, I think you learn to identify their crying. Do they really need you or is it "I want my way!" I sucessfully crate trained Harley and she has always done fine. Never makes a peep. But at first, she would whine and want out. I made a habit of putting her in there, which was right next to my bed, and then I would lay down and read a book beisde her. This way she knew I wasn't going anywhere JUST because I was crating her. And from time to time, she would start to whine or bark and I completely ignored it...seriously as if I didn't even here her. Then I would look at her and calmly say "you're fine." As soon as she was quiet for 12 seconds or longer, I would open the door and let her out. She quickly caught on that in order to get out and be with me, she had to remain quiet first.

It really depends on what you're willing to live with. You can go through it now and train her to be content on her own, or cave in and deal with a yapper for years to come. Either way, she'll be your baby and I completely understand wanting to make her happy. Just be consistent with whatever you choose and good luck. It DOES get better. :)

mychico4 02-25-2010 07:29 AM

Thanks for your help!!
 
Thank you all for your advice. I took Tammyb's suggestion and moved her from the bathroom with a babygate to the kitchen with a babygate. She stayed in there with her kennel open and didn't bark one bit all day yesterday. LOL I think she needed more space though I was told once before that may not be a good idea for potty training. She even laid in her kennel most of the time which was open for her to roam. I want her to know this kennel isn't just for discipline. The next thing I have to work on is her barking at me. If you take her out to play she is fine but out of the blue she will bark at me so I put her back in her play area. I tell her to stop and she keeps barking and acts like she is going to bite me. She will continue to bark so I put her in the kennel for 5 minutes then praised her with a treat for being quiet. She hasn't barked since but that was just yesterday.LOL I will look into buying that book I saw on the forum called How to housebreak your dog in 7 days. Right now she cries when we take her to potty outside but as soon as she comes in the house she will potty. I think its because its cold.

Tammyb 02-27-2010 12:21 PM

mychico4 have you tired putting a little jumper on her? I'm actually not a huge fan of clothes on animals but I realise that these little dogs may need a bit of extra warmth. Might encourage her to go out more?

Where Dexter is concerned I can't say we are making a hugeamount of progress. He still whines and yaps when I leave him, then at certain points throughout the night and then before i get up to let him out.

It's really starting to get me down. I've hardly had any sleep in two weeks :/ Also I really want to start taking Dexter to work with me but I can't if he yaps when he's in the other room, it's just not possible in a work environment.

HELLLPPPPPP :)


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