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Tfarol · 09-22-2005, 07:31 PM

Rambo is 10 weeks old, and we have had him for almost 1 week now. Friday will be one week. He is still peeing and pooing in the apartment. I am trying to potty train him to go outside on our balcony. When we are home we let him wander around our living room with us. But when we go to sleep and when we go to work we keep him in the kitchen with pee pads. Hes locked in the kitchen with baby gates. Every morning, i have to clean up pee because he goes pee on the pads but he also goes pee on the kitchen floor. I do the routine lots of people tell me. I show him the pee, then i say "NO!" and then i bring him outside onto the balcony where we have another pee pad set up. Its practically the same routine when i get home from work. the past two days he has gone poo outside. I dunno if i got lucky and put him out at the right times or if he really was holding it till he went outside. But today he went poo in the kitchen again. I know he is locked in the kitchen all night and during most of the day, so even if he did want to go out onto the balcony he wouldnt be able to. So what i am asking is am i doing this right? Also i have to admit, it is getting a little bit frustrating. Am i expecting to much for having him just a week? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in Advance!

Hamoth · 09-22-2005, 11:22 PM

This is a VERY young puppy! Would you yell at a baby for peeing itself?

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do the routine lots of people tell me. I show him the pee, then i say "NO!" and then i bring him outside onto the balcony where we have another pee pad set up. I

That's bad advice you are getting. Don't yell at a dog or make a big deal out of bad potty habbits. When there's an accident, ignore the pup's attention and clean it up. Don't ignore the pup per se, but don't reward this behavior with attention either. Just clean it up, and go play with the dog. Your pup isn't trying to vex you when it goes to the bathroom. It's a dog, not a human being, and it understands the world a little differently than you do. Why does your dog know what the pads are for?

You have to train your dog to go on the pad. This requires time and attention and patience. I suggest you read through the many, many, many posts on this site on the same subject. You may also consider getting some books on raising a puppy as there is a lot you should know.

I suggest "Puppies for Dummies", which helped me GREATLY in potty training my pup.

kewtee · 09-23-2005, 02:15 AM

And with a yorkie you must be prepaired for a long haul, it can take up to a year before it is fully potty trained - but the place where you bought it has probably told you that along with other special things about the race

Good luck with your baby - you are in for a great experience being a yorkie owner

golfwidow14 · 09-23-2005, 06:30 AM

As some of the others have said, it will take quite some time before there are no more accidents. From my experience I think using a crate at night and during the day while you are gone works very well and they usually will hold it until you let them out because they don't want to go where they sleep. I haven't used the pads so maybe your experience will be different. It seems to me though that it would be kinda hard to teach them to go on a pad when in the house and to try to get them to go outside when you're home. Just a thought. In my case we started using the crate when Samson was 3 months old. At first I didn't want to keep him confined because I'm a softy so we put him in the bathroom with old towels on one side of the room. He started only going on the towels which was good but when he was out of the bathroom he just went wherever. We knew we wanted to train him to go outside so I eventually gave in and started with the crate. At first he had one or two poo poo accidents in the crate but after that he never had another accident in the crate. Now he is almost 7 months and occaisonally will have an accident in the house but he is definetely getting better.

I didn't mean for this to be so long but I just wanted to share what has seemed to be working for us

StewiesMom · 09-23-2005, 06:37 AM

Stewie is 11 months old and is just starting to be VERY reliable with potty training.

I suggest that when he's making a mistake, say "go outside" or whatever phrase you feel like using and lead him out there. Then say "go potty outside". Even if he doesn't have to go, you want him to learn what "go potty" means and you want him to learn what the pad is. When Stewie was going on pee pads i would say "make potty on your paper" in a really high pitched voice.

shecass · 09-23-2005, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tfarol

Rambo is 10 weeks old, and we have had him for almost 1 week now. Friday will be one week. He is still peeing and pooing in the apartment. I am trying to potty train him to go outside on our balcony. When we are home we let him wander around our living room with us. But when we go to sleep and when we go to work we keep him in the kitchen with pee pads. Hes locked in the kitchen with baby gates. Every morning, i have to clean up pee because he goes pee on the pads but he also goes pee on the kitchen floor. I do the routine lots of people tell me. I show him the pee, then i say "NO!" and then i bring him outside onto the balcony where we have another pee pad set up. Its practically the same routine when i get home from work. the past two days he has gone poo outside. I dunno if i got lucky and put him out at the right times or if he really was holding it till he went outside. But today he went poo in the kitchen again. I know he is locked in the kitchen all night and during most of the day, so even if he did want to go out onto the balcony he wouldnt be able to. So what i am asking is am i doing this right? Also i have to admit, it is getting a little bit frustrating. Am i expecting to much for having him just a week? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in Advance!

Patience and consistency is the key. Remember he is just a baby.

JewelsMommy · 09-23-2005, 07:12 AM

Personally I've never been a fan of pee pads b/c you're training the dog to potty inside, regardless of the limited area you're allowing him to go in.

Just stay consistent. That's all you can do w/ a pup this age. He'll start picking it up after it becomes a habit. Don't be too hard on him...animals want to PLEASE their owners/parents. Rambo will get the hang of it!

JM

vainchick5 · 09-23-2005, 08:29 AM

10 weeks old is young but only having had him for a week, and expecting him to be potty trained is wayyyyyy to high of an expectation. I think you may also be confusing him by trying to train him inside and outside. I think the outside will come more naturally later, but you have to kind of pick which one you want to start off with. He's ONLY 10 weeks. He doesn't understand what NO is or why your voice sounds so loud/scary. Unless you catch him in the act, it is useless to yell at him for something he won't understand. When they are older like past 1 year, they begin to understand you better but for now, you gotta just be consistent and patient. I used to sit on the floor next to Coco and her pad for hours on end. I would ignore my cell calls, the tv and everything else. I would sit there with her, at her pad forever, if that's what it took for her to understand the words "Coco do your business". She would whine and whimper and want to go play but until she would do her business we would just sit there. After about a month or a month and a half, it totallly clicked in her, that when I say those words, if she went potty, we would go and have fun and she would get treats. It will eventually click. Coco was potty trained at 4 months.

StewiesMom · 09-23-2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vainchick5

He doesn't understand what NO is or why your voice sounds so loud/scary. Unless you catch him in the act, it is useless to yell at him for something he won't understand.

I think Nobella makes a good point. I also forgot to say that if you yell when you see him going, he may think he is getting in trouble for the act in general. Someone in my family yelled @ stewie when he was going #2 on the kitchen floor. He got so scared for a while that he would HIDE when he went. I found piles in the far end of my closet. He must have snuck in there when he realized I wasn't paying attention to him at all and went in there. I broke him of that, but it was a huge step back. You don't want your little baby to start hiding from you to do his business, so I would make sure that you're stearn, but not frightening to him when you catch him in the act.

YorkieRose · 09-23-2005, 08:41 AM

Time for a reality check..YORKIES take tons of patience to train. It will not happen in one week or one month..hopefully, he will be trained by one year. Get belly bands, an x-pen and begin a long process..I may sound negative, but truthfully, Yorkies are NOT for everyone, since they are the hardest breed to train IMO..They are very self willed..and many will have accidents their entire life. Good Luck

vainchick5 · 09-23-2005, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Time for a reality check..YORKIES take tons of patience to train. It will not happen in one week or one month..hopefully, he will be trained by one year. Get belly bands, an x-pen and begin a long process..I may sound negative, but truthfully, Yorkies are NOT for everyone, since they are the hardest breed to train IMO..They are very self willed..and many will have accidents their entire life. Good Luck

I think you're right about that for a few but some have had no trouble at all. Coco was a complete breeze to potty train (it was the whimpering that was a pain). A few other people have gotten real lucky. But the point I am trying to make is that you won't know if your puppy will learn fast and you will be one of the lucky ones unless you are really consistent and patient. Otherwise if you don't really try hard it will just add to the stigma of yorkies being hard to train. I don't think that is it, it just depends on how consistent YOU are.

Marie · 09-23-2005, 09:11 AM

I really think that 10 weeks is very young to expect little Rambo to be potty trained a 100%. You need to be consistent and patience. I pee pad train my 1 yr old Yorki Gucci. She pees and poops on the pads but it took some time. She still has some accidents but are usually my fault. Remember you only have him a week. He needs time to adjust and also to know where he is supposed to go. Since you are keeping him lock in the kitchen most of the time, i thin is best if you teach him how to use the pee pad that is in the kitchen. When he has an accident, taking him to the pad. When he does it rite praise him. Good luck.

Ladylavender · 09-23-2005, 09:15 AM

If you are strickly speaking about method, I have to agree that you are going about it all wrong. But that's not your fault, altogther. Reading up on the new methods of housebreaking a dog is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. And once you read, pick a method and follow it to a "T", no matter how inconvenient it is for you. Because it will work, but not if you go about it 1/2 a**ed. And it will be inconvenient and it will be burdomsome, but it will be worth the effort for a long rewarding relationship with your new family member.

Here are a couple of sites to help you along:

http://www.perfectpaws.com/htrp.html
http://www.perfectpaws.com/pupstuff.html
http://www.perfectpaws.com/crt.html
http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=157

Don't get discouraged. Just start over like nothing has happened from this point forward and go from there. Just like a newborn, a puppy is more work in the begining with very little payback. The payback comes later, when you have a fully housebroken pet and you can learn to enjoy him for who he is, and not hate him for what he does!

Hamoth · 09-23-2005, 10:55 AM

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YORKIES take tons of patience to train. It will not happen in one week or one month..hopefully, he will be trained by one year.

I wouldn't be quite that pessimistic about it...10 weeks is WAY to young to expect anything, but Chewy went from 0 potty training to going outside on command really reliably in a month(very few accidents, mostly in new places like a friend's home). At 8 months his last accident occured and none since.

I think Yorkies train o.k...but they are a bit socially...numb...By this I mean that they don't read faces and tones as well as many other breeds...this makes them seem stuborn, when they are realy just confused. I've been working on letting Chewy know better what I expect, and he's been really happy to come along...the trick is just to make him understand. WIth PT that was easier than with some other things...but I certainly wouldn't say that Yorkies are hard to train, just different.

Realize that they might no know a smile from a growl. That realization alone cued me into why he did some of the things he was doing...I find 'whispering' and using a quiet clicker highly effective. They easily intimidate (as they are so small) but the respond with the "Freeze" and "talky" calming signals. When your yorkie has himself planted on the ground while you are calling him, and he starts looking away and yawning, licking his nose, sniffing the ground, these are signs of fear in a dog. Try yawning back, looking away, then changing the subject.

This morning I had a case of "stubborn puppy" where he wouldn't come in and get out of the sun-beam we were standing in. "Chewy...STAY!" I said happily. Then I watched him for a few minutes, holding his eye contact "Stay....Good boy, good stay!" Then "O.k!". Up he springs and comes inside the door. lol. Sucker.

YorkieRose · 09-24-2005, 06:20 AM

I know I am pessimistic when it comes to housetraining a Yorkie. I have had many well trained ones...but it took a long time. My 14 wks old is doing very well, but she is far from being safe to let on carpets..fortunately, here in Florida we only have them in two bedrooms.

I read the posts and this is the number one problem, over and over. Until I started insisting on male neutering at 6 months, I had many puppy owners complain years later they did not have a trained male.
I must say my Katherine was 100% trained, but not until she was spayed at 5 years.
Let's face it..I am a bad mother when it comes to training Yorks...I had my Doxie pups trained at 12 weeks without fail. Same with a Min Pin I had a few years back...not my Yorks! LOL

09-22-2005, 07:31 PM	#1
Tfarol Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 11	Anything wrong with what we are doing? Rambo is 10 weeks old, and we have had him for almost 1 week now. Friday will be one week. He is still peeing and pooing in the apartment. I am trying to potty train him to go outside on our balcony. When we are home we let him wander around our living room with us. But when we go to sleep and when we go to work we keep him in the kitchen with pee pads. Hes locked in the kitchen with baby gates. Every morning, i have to clean up pee because he goes pee on the pads but he also goes pee on the kitchen floor. I do the routine lots of people tell me. I show him the pee, then i say "NO!" and then i bring him outside onto the balcony where we have another pee pad set up. Its practically the same routine when i get home from work. the past two days he has gone poo outside. I dunno if i got lucky and put him out at the right times or if he really was holding it till he went outside. But today he went poo in the kitchen again. I know he is locked in the kitchen all night and during most of the day, so even if he did want to go out onto the balcony he wouldnt be able to. So what i am asking is am i doing this right? Also i have to admit, it is getting a little bit frustrating. Am i expecting to much for having him just a week? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in Advance!

09-23-2005, 02:15 AM	#3
kewtee Donating YT Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Skagen, Denmark Posts: 769	And with a yorkie you must be prepaired for a long haul, it can take up to a year before it is fully potty trained - but the place where you bought it has probably told you that along with other special things about the race Good luck with your baby - you are in for a great experience being a yorkie owner __________________ Mette - proud mother of Kali - 6 lbs, born on March 18th 2004 Mare - 4 lbs, born on January 28th 2005

09-23-2005, 06:37 AM	#5
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	Stewie is 11 months old and is just starting to be VERY reliable with potty training. I suggest that when he's making a mistake, say "go outside" or whatever phrase you feel like using and lead him out there. Then say "go potty outside". Even if he doesn't have to go, you want him to learn what "go potty" means and you want him to learn what the pad is. When Stewie was going on pee pads i would say "make potty on your paper" in a really high pitched voice. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

09-23-2005, 07:12 AM	#7
JewelsMommy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 78	Personally I've never been a fan of pee pads b/c you're training the dog to potty inside, regardless of the limited area you're allowing him to go in. Just stay consistent. That's all you can do w/ a pup this age. He'll start picking it up after it becomes a habit. Don't be too hard on him...animals want to PLEASE their owners/parents. Rambo will get the hang of it! JM __________________ "The average dog is a nicer person than the average person." - Andrew A. Rooney

09-23-2005, 08:29 AM	#8
vainchick5 YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,588	10 weeks old is young but only having had him for a week, and expecting him to be potty trained is wayyyyyy to high of an expectation. I think you may also be confusing him by trying to train him inside and outside. I think the outside will come more naturally later, but you have to kind of pick which one you want to start off with. He's ONLY 10 weeks. He doesn't understand what NO is or why your voice sounds so loud/scary. Unless you catch him in the act, it is useless to yell at him for something he won't understand. When they are older like past 1 year, they begin to understand you better but for now, you gotta just be consistent and patient. I used to sit on the floor next to Coco and her pad for hours on end. I would ignore my cell calls, the tv and everything else. I would sit there with her, at her pad forever, if that's what it took for her to understand the words "Coco do your business". She would whine and whimper and want to go play but until she would do her business we would just sit there. After about a month or a month and a half, it totallly clicked in her, that when I say those words, if she went potty, we would go and have fun and she would get treats. It will eventually click. Coco was potty trained at 4 months. __________________ Mommy to Coco and Rocco

09-23-2005, 06:30 AM	#4
golfwidow14 YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: PA Posts: 401	As some of the others have said, it will take quite some time before there are no more accidents. From my experience I think using a crate at night and during the day while you are gone works very well and they usually will hold it until you let them out because they don't want to go where they sleep. I haven't used the pads so maybe your experience will be different. It seems to me though that it would be kinda hard to teach them to go on a pad when in the house and to try to get them to go outside when you're home. Just a thought. In my case we started using the crate when Samson was 3 months old. At first I didn't want to keep him confined because I'm a softy so we put him in the bathroom with old towels on one side of the room. He started only going on the towels which was good but when he was out of the bathroom he just went wherever. We knew we wanted to train him to go outside so I eventually gave in and started with the crate. At first he had one or two poo poo accidents in the crate but after that he never had another accident in the crate. Now he is almost 7 months and occaisonally will have an accident in the house but he is definetely getting better. I didn't mean for this to be so long but I just wanted to share what has seemed to be working for us

09-23-2005, 08:41 AM	#10
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	puppy Time for a reality check..YORKIES take tons of patience to train. It will not happen in one week or one month..hopefully, he will be trained by one year. Get belly bands, an x-pen and begin a long process..I may sound negative, but truthfully, Yorkies are NOT for everyone, since they are the hardest breed to train IMO..They are very self willed..and many will have accidents their entire life. Good Luck

09-23-2005, 09:11 AM	#12
Marie Mom loves Gucci Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 6,427	I really think that 10 weeks is very young to expect little Rambo to be potty trained a 100%. You need to be consistent and patience. I pee pad train my 1 yr old Yorki Gucci. She pees and poops on the pads but it took some time. She still has some accidents but are usually my fault. Remember you only have him a week. He needs time to adjust and also to know where he is supposed to go. Since you are keeping him lock in the kitchen most of the time, i thin is best if you teach him how to use the pee pad that is in the kitchen. When he has an accident, taking him to the pad. When he does it rite praise him. Good luck. __________________ Huggies, Gucci and Marie http://www.dogster.com/?132187 "I have been egged"

09-23-2005, 09:15 AM	#13
Ladylavender YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN Posts: 733	If you are strickly speaking about method, I have to agree that you are going about it all wrong. But that's not your fault, altogther. Reading up on the new methods of housebreaking a dog is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. And once you read, pick a method and follow it to a "T", no matter how inconvenient it is for you. Because it will work, but not if you go about it 1/2 a**ed. And it will be inconvenient and it will be burdomsome, but it will be worth the effort for a long rewarding relationship with your new family member. Here are a couple of sites to help you along: http://www.perfectpaws.com/htrp.html http://www.perfectpaws.com/pupstuff.html http://www.perfectpaws.com/crt.html http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=157 Don't get discouraged. Just start over like nothing has happened from this point forward and go from there. Just like a newborn, a puppy is more work in the begining with very little payback. The payback comes later, when you have a fully housebroken pet and you can learn to enjoy him for who he is, and not hate him for what he does!

09-24-2005, 06:20 AM	#15
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	training I know I am pessimistic when it comes to housetraining a Yorkie. I have had many well trained ones...but it took a long time. My 14 wks old is doing very well, but she is far from being safe to let on carpets..fortunately, here in Florida we only have them in two bedrooms. I read the posts and this is the number one problem, over and over. Until I started insisting on male neutering at 6 months, I had many puppy owners complain years later they did not have a trained male. I must say my Katherine was 100% trained, but not until she was spayed at 5 years. Let's face it..I am a bad mother when it comes to training Yorks...I had my Doxie pups trained at 12 weeks without fail. Same with a Min Pin I had a few years back...not my Yorks! LOL