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10-18-2009, 01:59 PM | #1 |
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| Yikes Food Agression! NEED HELP PLEASE We just got our new puppy on Friday night. Everything is great with her, and we are so in love. Today I gave both dogs a little chew treat... My husband tried to see how much she had left and she growled and bit him! Then she ran away. I got to her and she growled at me too, and snipped. I turned her on her back and took the treat away ??? I did give it back to her but made her take it out of the palm of my hand. I haven't dealt with this before and would appreciate some "seasoned" advice. Thanks thanks thanks
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10-18-2009, 02:00 PM | #2 |
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| Why are you turning her on her back?????????
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10-18-2009, 02:03 PM | #3 |
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| Oh I just did it the one time. It was instinctive. I guess all the Dog Whisperer stuff. Any advice what I should be doing?
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10-18-2009, 02:14 PM | #4 |
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| Sorry but I do not believe in CM and his training..He has no education and while it looks impressive on tv I don't think it is what works for our Yorkies. He has been proven with highly educated people in animal behavior that throwing a dog on its back is putting hugh fear into them as this only happens when another dog is going to kill them. Unless the breeder worked from a very young age with puppies it is natural for them to be afraid of this move. It would also appear your breeder did not work with the puppies to train them not to be food aggressive..putting food down and picking it up. I think you need to start with training it to sit first and then you release your little one to go eat. I don't believe in messing with dogs when they eat but with such a little puppy I am sure you can turn her around. She only knows where she came from it was every dog for themselves...She is stillyoung so be gentle.
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10-18-2009, 02:20 PM | #5 |
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| Thanks for your advice! I think you may be wrong about the breeder though, she is fantastic! I also did get her to sit before she had the treat. So you think I should give her food and take it away? I'm a little confussed (sorry it may be the way I'm reading you message). She has been totally fine with her kibble, my kids have been feeding it to her by hand. And she and Lily have eaten from the bowl at the same time no trouble. I guess I'm wondering if it happens again do I take the food away? Or will this make it worse?
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10-18-2009, 02:39 PM | #6 |
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| Ah, more information...this is good. Oh I am not putting your breeder down but if they do use/work with the Volhard Puppy Aptitude program then your little one will be frightened if you flip it on its back and that is not good. Since she is being good with the kids (don't let her get use to this or you will be hand feeding her the rest of her life..) and with the other dog then she is not food aggressive but you gave her a treat that made her crazy. Do you think it was the first time she has ever had this treat? Even mine who lets me do just about anything (except grooming with one) won't let me have their treats and I leave them along. Maybe once she realizes these treats are not that special she will relax but when you go to take a treat away you must be ready to replace it with something else to divert her attention. I don't think it hurts to take food away and then put it back down so she gets use to your hand being around her food bowl.
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10-18-2009, 06:32 PM | #7 |
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| I'm a big fan of Cesar Millan, particularly his "exercise, discipline, affection" rule (in that order!). But I think people sometimes get the wrong idea, try to do what he does, and fail, doing it the totally wrong way. It states to only let a professional do it for a reason. Different situations call for different things and different dogs will react to things differently. He treats his dogs on a case by case basic and some dogs may need a rude awakening, being put into a surrender state, whereas some dogs just need some patience and rules. Food aggression is not to be taken lightly. I would NEVER allow Jackson to growl at me for anything, that is not cool. I don't think you should "mess" with dogs while they eat because that should be their somewhat private time but no dog is going to growl to me... lol. You need to let her know that the food/treat/bone is YOURS, not hers. You own it, you need to claim it. From the beginning, while Jackson was eating, chewing a bone, etc, I would purposely put my hand in his bowl. Even before serving him the food, I use my hands to mix it because that makes my scent all over his food. I can stick my face right into his, purposely or accidentally, with a precious bully stick in his mouth and he could care less. He's wonderful with children, too and has never worried or cared about them near his food. He knows I'm his feeder and without me, there would be NO food... he's just learned to respect that. I think it's just a simple matter of following "Nothing in life is free" program. You can Google it, it's great.
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10-18-2009, 06:42 PM | #8 |
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| Ok may have been the first time she tried this treat Thanks for all the advice!
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10-19-2009, 10:40 PM | #9 |
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| So get the food bowl and put it away. Sit on the floor and hand feed her ever single kibble bit until she learns that the only way she gets feed is out of the very hands she wants to protect her food from. I would continue that until she is calm and relaxed. Then I stick the bowl back ont the floor and one kibble at a time feed her out of the bowl. Then I would do two and on up until all kibble is feed in the bowl. Then I start from above walking by as she eats and dropping really nice extras in the bowl as she is eating...so big bowl. So not only does all food come from hands but great stuff from hands that move. JL Alpha rollling any dog only builds fear. Might does not make right and only cowards train from rough....train with the brain not with pain.
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10-20-2009, 11:13 AM | #10 |
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| Thanks all She has had no problems since??? I've been putting my hand in her bowl and she just eats around it So thanks... And yes I do agree rolling a dog over is not the solution to a problem!
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