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Lula-Mae Famous 09-15-2009 08:52 AM
any updates?

YorkieMother 09-19-2009 10:44 PM
Look of you can not manage your dog get him into a rescue.
As for those that say it is your fault well it maybe in part but there are those dogs that have a fear gene running through lines and it leads to aggression.
Nothing you can do about gene pool.
So do what is best for you family and rocky and do not let what some post here bother you.
unless they live with a truly aggressive dog they do not get it and will not get what it takes out of you.
As for the angry I get it totally the why the heck an I getting hit up side the head and I am a good person...not fair it is not fair at all.
It be better to go find a good K9 aggression board that understands the true nature of aggression. That will not happen here.

JL

Wylie's Mom 09-20-2009 05:16 AM
Rockybaby, I'm glad to see you back and hope you find some of the experienced trainers on here helpful - I know I have!! Dog training is *not* easy, and I know that it can be very frustrating.

But what I also want to say is that we make great efforts to treat *all* members fairly here - there is no "elite crowd" that gets treated differently. I appreciate you being here just as I do every member :). If you ever feel you're being treated unfairly, please PM me - I'm always here for you if you need to discuss/vent. :)

JeanieK 09-20-2009 05:32 AM
I think getting him neutered is an excellent Idea.

I have not read this entire thread so this may have been mentioned before, Trying catching a few episodes of The Dog Whisperer. He is a dog psycologist and can help you to figure out why he is aggressive and show you how to work on those issues and to develop trust in you, even if he has fear aggression.

If you do not get the National Geographic Channel, you can go to his website, Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site.

Good luck, I think with some love and understanding and patience he will come around.

Wylie's Mom 09-20-2009 05:43 AM
Speaking of books, I HIGHLY recommend The Loved Dog by trainer Tamar Geller. :)

red98vett 09-20-2009 05:44 AM
well you are new so I won't touch the 'theory's' people suggested - but I will say this - that really DOES happen

like WileysMom just said - there's no elite crowd here - we're here because we love our dogs. The issue you may have had was cussing out someone maybe ? Since kids read this site to - it's pretty much not allowed though I know many times I've wanted to post words my mind was REALLY thinking and had to substitute. You just can't cuss anyone out.

Since your yorkie is from a mill then he really doesn't know bad behavior vs good behavior - and really doesn't know about bathroom issues because he probably spent his short life caged 24/7....poor guy..... You need to teach him.
You got good advise here - all the best to you.

red98vett 09-20-2009 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocky-Baby (Post 2775438)
I can't even walk him. He'll bite his leash and it becomes "his toy" - he'll literally GO for you if you try to get the leash to walk him. The craziest bark I've ever heard - and I've had rottweilers, malamutes, even other terriers - I have NEVER had a dog try to attack me like Rocky does. When you try to pet him he bites you every. time. We tried crate training after the first week or so of getting 0 sleep with him in our room. Then he just got meaner and meaner. We bought a huge puppy play pen, hoping to teach him some gratitude, kindness, like getting out of the pen is a "privaledge" so you should behave (aka no bite when being pet, no jump and try and bite the face when person's at your level - aka just act like an effing dog WITHOUT rabies!!!). I have tried everything and he has just gotten more and more aggressive. I got him from the LIAR'S website puppypetite.com - which is not like a house like they show online, you drive 2 hours to find it's a friggin MILL. He poo's and pee's where he sleeps - we've tried everything from pee sprays to dog litter to news paper with hormone pee spray to walking (but you heard how that goes - and we've tried with leash and harness and leash with COLLAR - he just goes INSANE) - the same with when he eats or has a toy he likes - if you attempt to pet him he tries to take your head off and acts like a tazmanian devil. =(
I wanted to add one more thing - you know he was caged all the time at the place you got him from - so that is sure to scare him and dogs don't 'show' gratitude for something....getting out of a pen shouldn't be a privledge ...his pen should be a safe place a dog wants to be in - not used as punishment.

He's going to associate that playpen with living in a tiny cage. Maybe try an ex-pen where he is still with you yet not enclosed like a mill cage.

Not to sound awful - but you seem REALLY stressed out. I'm sorry for your illness but dogs do sense stress and flipping out over his behavior will never help him - it may just make him worse. He needs patience and consistency....if that doesn't work for you - then maybe you should think of re-homing him so someone can work with him - your plate just may be too full to handle a puppy,

JeanieK 09-20-2009 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 2808120)
I wanted to add one more thing - you know he was caged all the time at the place you got him from - so that is sure to scare him and dogs don't 'show' gratitude for something....getting out of a pen shouldn't be a privledge ...his pen should be a safe place a dog wants to be in - not used as punishment.

He's going to associate that playpen with living in a tiny cage. Maybe try an ex-pen where he is still with you yet not enclosed like a mill cage.

Not to sound awful - but you seem REALLY stressed out. I'm sorry for your illness but dogs do sense stress and flipping out over his behavior will never help him - it may just make him worse. He needs patience and consistency....if that doesn't work for you - then maybe you should think of re-homing him so someone can work with him - your plate just may be too full to handle a puppy,
Dogs sense weakness, and they will turn on a weak pack member. If one is not physiclly and emotionally strong enough to hold the pack leader role then the dog will take over.

But seeing as he was never in a stable pack of dogs, he does not know how to be a good pack leader. So now what you have is instasbility trying to control instability.

Not good. I think even Cesar would agree, that in your circumstances, it might be better to get a more stable dog.

You already have more stress than someone your age should have to deal with, the added stress of an unstable dog is probably not what is best for you at this time.

May the Lord make you strong enough to make the right decision.


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