Ok, you have also said your boyfriend, husband or whatever does similar acts, it's sick that you defend them. Your rolling the eyes icon makes me sick. This forum is called Yorkie Talk, a forum for pet lovers, not human pet abusers.

... wow.

Carmen came asking for help taking care of her pet. I PM'd her and said not to worry about how heated her thread got because everything would blow over. Looks like I was wrong.

I don't know if I've just been drawn to the most controversial threads recently, but it seems like everywhere I look, there has been a lot of anger and not much effort at kindness. I'm putting MYSELF on a 24 hour timeout from YT. I want to come on here to see cute pictures, laugh at our animals and maybe learn a thing or two. I don't want to see yorkie OR human abuse!

Globemaster,
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR GREAT COUNTRY. I FOR ONE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR SACRIFICES ......
GOD BLESS THE USA................................

I'm sorry but if she is still rolling her eyes at dog abuse on someone else's thread then she has learned nothing, I have no pity for her. Yorkies first!
I am willing to give kindness to yorkies and yorkie lovers but not to abusers.

Excuse me "Breeze" if this post comes off rude, but I did not roll my eyes at dog abuse, I rolled my eyes at another posters comment about him being a child abuser. Like other posters have said, rubbing a dog's nose in it's urine or waste was thought to be a very good training technique many years ago. Some people may still think it is. I do not agree with it at all, so I would never use it.

I would also like to say that I do not abuse Chloe. She is treated very well and I started the other thread to ask for advice from others on how to get her not to steal things off of the floor when they drop. Well we have taught her by using other methods than spanking. (Like I said, my fiance hasn't had a dog before, so it took some time for him to learn what is wrong and right) He learned quickly that spanking is wrong and will not help. We used a firm "NO" and taking it away quickly, and it has worked wonders. Anyway, I don't think I should have to lay out my entire thread here for you to understand.

It's sad that you put in your post "Yorkies first". It makes me wonder if you put your dog relationships in front of your human relationships. Do you even have any human relationships? I'm sorry if this is rude, but I figure someone has got to say it.

If you are willing to share your "kindness" with Yorkie owners and lovers, why are you being so hostile towards me? I never once said that I agreed with spanking or globemaster's techniques of training. Honestly, if you look back..go ahead..nothing. All I was saying is that what globemaster is doing (rubbing his face...) was once considered acceptable, and certainly does not automatically set him up for failure once/if he has children.

Sorry if this is rude and offends you, and sorry globemaster for hijacking your thread for my rant! I am also going to take a 24 hour time out from YT.

The post I responded to was your reply to a post that had nothing to do with child abuse. Go back and look.

Please, are you serious about my other relationships, give me a break. I say yorkies first on this forum. This is called Yorkie Talk, duh!! I mean, I place yorkies before selfish *&&^$%% I have children, a husband, family and many friends. If I was ever in a relationship with someone who abused my dogs, my kids or my loved ones I would have to pass. I'm sorry if you are not at that point in life or agree. You may try to cut me down, but I'm sorry I have never defended an animal abuser ever on this forum.

Why was I hostile towards you, you are the one rolling your eyes, defending abusers. I can say a lot of abusive behaviors were acceptable at one time in history, slaves, racism... Does not mean it's ok in this day and age and excusable.

also.....

Globemaster, I have followed this thread since it began and must say that I have been concerned about its tone several times including my own contribution now that I've read how it may have come across. One of the major problems with posting online is that you cannot convey tone or inflection and oftentimes words taken at face value do not adequately convey the intention of the writer.

(As an aside, my husband and I married in our 30's...late 30's for him, mid-30's for me... and first marriageis for both of us. To say that we were set in our ways is putting it mildly! After 22 years, we still don't even use the same toothpaste...LOL) After you shared that you are in Iraq, I wondered if your girlfriend is from a different cultural background which might also be a factor in her outlook on training her pets.

You have my admiration and gratitude for your service to our country. With the responsibility you have to assume in your profession, I am even more impressed with your attempt to train her Yorkie in your free time. As far as your girlfriends's choices, do remember though that she must want to change before any real difference can be measured. As long as you're spending more time than she in trying to resolve the problem, I question whether she is really as invested in seeking a solution as you.

She is lucky to have someone such as yourself who is interested in her pet even though your methods seem a bit unconventional. You are researching and seeking answers which demonstrates that you are open to change and other methods. From your apparent thick-skin at not reacting in a hostile manner to some of the comments in this thread, it appears to me that you were "raised" to maintain good manners even when those around you have forgotten theirs.

Try to wade through the criticism in the thread. Evidently this has triggered a hot spot but in spite of the outrage from some, you have been given some good advice by others.

Again, thank you for your sacrifice on behalf of our country. Stay focused and stay safe.

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It means he knows you are going to asbuse him but he hasno idea what for. If he knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that yuop were going to be mad if he went on the floor. HE WOULD NOT HAVE GONE ON THE FLOOR.

DOES NOT TAKE A GENIUS TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

One can only jhope that someone repeatedly RUBS YOUR NOSE IN IT WHEN YOUY MAKE MISTAKES

We can only hope that your girlfriend wises up before that 2 year old is conceived, or the 2 year old will end up getting it's nose rubbed in it too.

It is obvious that this guy cares nothing about the dog, if he did he would find more loving ways to deal with the issue.

If anyone treated one of my dogs like that he would be out the door before he knew what happened.

The dog makes up to him and follows him because that is what dogs do. They love us unconditionally, no matter how badly we act.

I'd be doing some neutering .,.... and it wouldn't be the dog. someone obviously has toooo much testosterone.

You've got to be kidding. and how do you know if he is in Iraq. girlfrineds do not get went to Iraq with their boyfriends.

I have nephews in Iraq and they don't get to take their girlfriends or dogs. and they wouldn't be able to take the dog from iraq when they leave.

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I'm sorry I know I'm the last person to say anything because I myself is having problem on training my baby.... But what I don't understand is, why is everyone bashing him (not that I'm saying its okay what he is doing) but its obvious that he is looking for insight on what he should do? Not get bashed he already admitted that he did not know how fragile yorkies were and even said that he was going to stop doing it. Why does everyone feel the need to still bash him if he is correcting himself after getting feedback and advice from the other members. I came to this website looking for advice myself and I myself got bashed because I said I punish my dog and all of a sudden OMG I should give my dog away. People come on here to vent and get advice. AND I'm sorry but I do not see the point of why someone needs to copy and paste a past thread onto this one. You guys want to exchange words then PM each other and duke it out don't post it on a thread where this gentlemen needs help...

Although I just contradicted myself and posted this I just had to say it I've been reading this thread since 7am today and just can't stomach it anymore...

On another note. Globemaster I wish you nothing but the best on your training and hope that you and your GF get it down. I myself am looking for insight on training my Roxy because I work from 7-4pm and come home for lunch for only 30 mins a day so I know its hard. There were times I just wanted to give up but I love that little booger to much:D My last thread was crazy I was thinking of giving her away but after everyones feedback I understand now she's just a baby.... Good Luck...;)

I hope she is not viewing you as marraige material. You sound like a control freak.

He is not looking for advice, he still insists that rubbing a dogs nose in urine or feces is the way to train them. and is not going to change his behavior.

When you were a baby...did your mother rub your face in a diaper for 1-2 minutes when you couldnt make it to the potty. Get a crate for the dog and teach your girlfriend how to train her dog. These are not standard dogs. If you cannot refrain from being so aggressive this dog is not for either of you. I am absolutely appaulled by your machismo intent when it comes to the obediance of this dog.
As much attention as you think you are giving, its clearly not enough.
Either pick up a book and learn about these dogs or start being a little more open minded when asking for advice.
Unreal.

If this guy was looking for insight and advice, he would be taking some constructive critisim. instead he insists that what he is doing is the right thing and he is not going to stop.

And i believe his story about irag is nutrue. How can he be in Irag and living in an apartment with his girlfriend and her dog, and have his own place

I 200 pound man touching a 3 pound dog in anger is what is unacceptable behavior. No one learns anything out of fear.

Best post on this thread. Get a book and learn together. Learning and solving a problem together will make your relationship stronger.

This is just a clarification he never said he was IN Iraq....

He said he is flying medical evacuation out of Iraq. how can he do that without being in Iraq.

Forget it I give up.... This is unreal....

He was probably there for his assignments, but lives in another country at this time. Maybe Eroupe or the US?
Pilots fly in and out, they don't stay in one place for too long. ;)

I can't believe that this guy has gotten everybody riled up:mad:
Give him advice and leave it at that!!!!!Sorry but I'm sick of these awful threads and everbody attacking each other.......he is probably getting a kick out of it:mad:
Good Luck with the Puppy and I'm sending Prayers his way:hands::hands::hands:
Take Care!!!
By the way this Thread makes me ill,YUK

I am very plain and direct in my language. You are a HORRIBLE Yorkie owner or part owner. I hope one day you fall face first in to a pile of s**t and see how that feels. There are many ways to train and positive reinforcement and patience WITHOUT punshiment works best but you are so stubborn you do not even want to listen to what other Yorkie owners say. What a cow.

Gosh, this guy is a piece a work :eek: IMO, cat pee is much more potent than dog pee. With the two combined the smell must be just awful.
I think it is time to rehome ALL their animals and then shampoo their carpets and furniture. their is no excuse whatsoever for anyone to live in filthy living condions. People like this should never be allowed to own animals!
Under no circumstances shoud a little yorkie be trained in this manner. this makes me ill. This man has no idea that he is harming this poor little Yorkie. :( Then they are leaving him in a crate all day long? OMG, how cruel. Those people are totally messed up. It is not the Yorkie's fault, it is his owners who are. If we YT'ers could only know where these people were located! It takes all kinds doesn't it!
this guy has not returned since yesterday either. :eek:

I think that it's great that you want to help your girlfriend out. I think it would be a good idea if you both did some research together on the breed as they are very much different than other dogs. A great resource is even to watch animal planet because they have lots of dog training shows and there are a few different trainers so you can pick and choose your favorites. I believe that if rubbing his nose in the urine/poo is what you feel is best so be it. I am just concerned with the fact that you want him to be scared because the problem with that is it could instill fearful aggression which can cause many issues not only in the relationship between him and you but as well affect his relationship with other people and animals. You can read more about it online but when I received my two year old yorkie, Izzy, she had fearful aggression which caused lots of problems for me! Good luck with your training, its a struggle I know but it pays off to do it!

Also, I wanted to say thank you for serving our country & I greatly appreciate it!

Obviously you haven’t got a clue on what your during and isn’t to bad yr girlfriend doesn’t either. To have a dog scared of you is the dumbness thing I’ve heard, and rubbing it face in its mess for 1-2 minute is even stupider, maybe someone should do the same with you. Leave the poor yorkies alone, maybe if the two of you can handle the poor dear maybe it should be re-home to someone who has the time and loving care for it.

My "apologies" to the board if I misunderstood him about Iraq. Wherever he is though, it sounds as though he is in the military serving our country. Why do I think that? Simple. I generally trust people until I'm proven wrong. It seems to make life much more pleasant for me than automatically assuming people are liars.

As for him not coming back to the thread... (1) He's probably busy. I doubt that he has the time to stay continuously on the board...OR (2) He's taken all the verbal abuse he plans to stomach after asking for guidance.

I am having a great deal of trouble understanding the verbal cruelty of some people to another human being...while at the same time they cry foul at the treatment of a dog. Am I the only one seeing the disparity in this?

I cannot imagine a worse teaching method than condemnation. A person asks for help and advice and what is given is condemnation? Exactly how is this supposed to help? Rather than encouraging him to change, the condemnation creates a "circle the wagon" defensive pose which will do nothing but make the person try to prove the effectiveness of the original method...and the dog continues to suffer.

My word! There was a real opportunity here for genuine teaching and retraining which would have helped the situation. Instead, the person asking for help was lambasted and condemned...really encourages him to return for further advice, doesn't it?