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Passionfruition 08-12-2005 05:26 PM
Ok, I BOUGHT A CLICKER!

...and started doing the click, treat, click, treat, thing last night.

Sully HATES that noise! In fact I think I just taught him to hate treats!

I clicked that dang thing once and he tucked his tail and flattened his ears and ran! Agh, what do I dooooooo?

chanin111 08-12-2005 06:49 PM
My little one was scared the first few times. Hold the clicker behind your back so the noise isn't so loud. I just got out of puppy training and the trainer said when u first start click and treat for no reason. Just to get them used to it. If they still don't like the noise after a few days get one that's not as loud.

cacbeary 08-12-2005 07:38 PM
I read where you could try clicking a pen, or use a lid that makes a popping sound too like on a little juice bottle. You could also put some tape over the clicker & it will muffle the sound or put in your pocket.

Novato ~ They suggest people food so the pups don't get bored with the treat. They can get bored with treats??? The book suggests hot dog pieces or cheese microwaved so it hardens up a little & they are good for a week. My one pup is lactose intolerant so forget the cheese treats.

I bought Puperoni sticks. I slice them in thirds lengthwise with a pair of scissors. Then I snip into pieces. I don't have to worry if it's too old using the Puperoni sticks. You don't want a treat too big or you will have to stop training so they eat the treat.

They also said some dogs aren't treat eaters & to use a toy then. But I don't know how you would do that without taking too long a time inbetween all the training with the clicker.

Carolina girl 08-15-2005 06:48 AM
Does anyone know how to train with a toy? She is awfully scared of the clicker and runs and hides. I thought maybe it was just attitude but I don't think so I think she is scared. It bothers me because she acts like she is scared of me. I have never so much as yelled at her. It really frustrates me when I put the treat in my hand (hotdogs) and she she turns and runs. :confused:

SoCalyorkiLvr 08-15-2005 07:27 AM
I think there are also clickers with a softer click that is not so loud.

yorkiegold 08-15-2005 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cacbeary
After my pup was born, I visited everyday until I got her. I practiced the clicker training on the Mom - she's not quite 2 yr old. I taught her to crawl. She would get so excited when I brought out the clicker! I printed up some lessons from http://www.clickerlessons.com/lessons.html for my Mom to work with her pup.

I bought a book for half price on the Internet but I thought the above was way more detailed in how to clickertrain (pictures & everything). You should check it out. You can buy clickers at Petco, Petsmart, etc. I ordered the i-click (softer click) online since mine were pups & the noise wouldn't scare them. They are so scared of everything at first.
WOW - thanks for the link to the clicker lessons. I'm trying to do this on my own as we don't have any classes nearby. This is amazing for training puppies to stand on the table for examination by a judge and for gaiting on a lead. They simply take to the "game" like it was invented for them and they forget to be frightened or intimidated by things going on around them.

I trained my boy to run behind the kitchen table and hide whenever he heard the clicker. It was so frustrating. But I started just by making a mouth noise and giving him a treat and then proceeding to a clicker on an ink pen and then to one of the new generation of quiet clickers and now I can use any clicker. It's funny, but he was the first one I tried it on and the others have never been afraid of it, I guess simply by having heard it and watching that nothing bad happened.

CJ

yorkiegold 08-15-2005 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by novato
What do you guys use as a treat for clicker training? My Yorkie is 8 weeks old too. :D
Something soft is best with the little ones and you have to give really tiny amounts. I start with a jar of baby food and I put some on the lid and give them that as a treat. When they're older, I give them homemade salmon treats, but again, very small, crumb-size bits. I have had to weigh the ones I'm training on a regular basis and they can gain weight pretty fast. Cheese can work or bits of cooked chicken. A favorite "bait" in the show ring out here is chicken breast cooked in the microwave with a bit of salt. It's very much healthier than most of the commercial treats and very easy. You can cut it up into very small bits or you can pinch of little pieces.

With these little dogs (especially the puppies), it gets to be a real challenge to give them treats without making them sick, getting them fat or having them lose interest because they're full.

CJ

yorkiegold 08-15-2005 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Carolina girl
Does anyone know how to train with a toy? She is awfully scared of the clicker and runs and hides. I thought maybe it was just attitude but I don't think so I think she is scared. It bothers me because she acts like she is scared of me. I have never so much as yelled at her. It really frustrates me when I put the treat in my hand (hotdogs) and she she turns and runs. :confused:
You use the toy the same way as the treat. You click and then offer the toy. Have you ever seen the search and rescue or bomb dogs working on tv? After they've made a "find", they indicate it to the handler and the handler generally plays a game of tug with them as a reward. It's the same thing.

I've had the same experience you're describing and I know you just need to hang in there. Once they get what you're trying to do, they love it. You need to click and throw the toy 20 times a day until she looks for the toy with happy anticipation instead of running away. She's not trying to make you feel bad, she just has it in her head that the hot dogs mean trouble. You can change her mind. Hang in there.

CJ

Carolina girl 08-15-2005 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkiegold
You use the toy the same way as the treat. You click and then offer the toy. Have you ever seen the search and rescue or bomb dogs working on tv? After they've made a "find", they indicate it to the handler and the handler generally plays a game of tug with them as a reward. It's the same thing.

I've had the same experience you're describing and I know you just need to hang in there. Once they get what you're trying to do, they love it. You need to click and throw the toy 20 times a day until she looks for the toy with happy anticipation instead of running away. She's not trying to make you feel bad, she just has it in her head that the hot dogs mean trouble. You can change her mind. Hang in there.

CJ
Thanks so much I was really getting discouraged. We will throw toys tonight with the clicker. I sure don't want it to be a bad expierience for her.

cacbeary 08-15-2005 12:57 PM
Here's another web site for clicker training. It even has an article of when your dog is afraid of the clicker.

There are different articles showing different ways of training for the same command. It gives you lots of options.

http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/index.htm

Yorkie Mum 08-16-2005 07:32 PM
Hi
Well a place to talk clicker were people do not think I am crazy.
Yippy. Do you know how many groups for yorkies I have been in that think I am right out to lunch training in a gentle manner. If you can not alpha roll or make then do it then you know not that which you speck.

To answer some of the questions.
A pen click or a tongue click is ok for a click.
Also a word yes or a made up word is better so it not said be accident, will work to but a click is better.
A toy can be use a a reward my girl works for a ball and food but I tend not to click if using a ball I just toss it at the right move on her part.

You can start any age of dog but the owner usually was a harder time not talking and luring. That be me as I am a cross over trainer working on fixing an aggressive dog that got hurt before I got her. :)

xtine 08-16-2005 10:48 PM
Wow.. I totally forgot about that site! SO thank you for sharing!

I finally got my clicker.. and at least my kiddies weren't scared of it.. they were SO fascinated by it.. i wish i would have seen that site earlier.. cause i was doing it all wrong..

at least they are interested in the sound.. i can't wait to whip them into clicker training tomorrow! :D

i_love_my_yorki 08-17-2005 02:20 AM
How does it work??

Do you say a command & then click???


Any help would be very appreciated :)

xtine 08-17-2005 02:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by i_love_my_yorki
How does it work??

Do you say a command & then click???


Any help would be very appreciated :)

http://www.clickerlessons.com/clicker.html

that is a great site and explains a lot! :)

Sue Nickell 08-17-2005 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cacbeary
After my pup was born, I visited everyday until I got her. I practiced the clicker training on the Mom - she's not quite 2 yr old. I taught her to crawl. She would get so excited when I brought out the clicker! I printed up some lessons from http://www.clickerlessons.com/lessons.html for my Mom to work with her pup.

I bought a book for half price on the Internet but I thought the above was way more detailed in how to clickertrain (pictures & everything). You should check it out. You can buy clickers at Petco, Petsmart, etc. I ordered the i-click (softer click) online since mine were pups & the noise wouldn't scare them. They are so scared of everything at first.
Thanks for the link. I checked it out and printed the lessons. I am going to start trying the clicker training soon. I will let you know what success I have.

Sue and Samson


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