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Normally, I would NOT put this out there for the whole damn board to see but this is getting ridiculous and now I feel compelled to expose myself in the interest of ADVOCACY for animals. I AM A SURVIVOR OF SEXUAL ABUSE AND CHILD ABUSE. GOT IT? You are not the only person on this board with insight to this matter. I DO NOT see the linear logic of BREEDING YORKIES for THERAPY for women who've suffered from sexual abuse. Therapy animals utilized IN THERAPY by THERAPISTS are a good thing and I understand that process. Today, you have been talking about TRADE/JOB-TRAINING sexual abuse survivors in GROOMING, DOG TRAINING, AND INDISCRIMINATE DOG BREEDING. Please don't try to talk in circles because I can follow you wherever you want to take the story. And btw, if you do think job training will help heal sexual abuse, you may want to explore that further, bc I can't even imagine that path being healing in the way that you're explaining it ![]() Okay, I'm done being "Ann, just the person" now and will step back into my Moderator shoes. I need to go take a walk around my office now.
__________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann | Pfeiffer | Marcel Verdel Purcell | Wylie | Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° | |
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Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca.
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The horse is dead, so get going!
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Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: With my yorkies
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YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Carolina
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| ![]() I had no intentions of saying anything about what happened to me with this breeder because I felt I was partically to blame. But when read her post about having a good heart and donating dogs.. Well lets say I am Pi$$ed!(sorry)! My girls are doing fine the female that I purchased that has the same father as my Dixie has produced a little girl that has some genetic issue that we have yet to figure out she has had several tests done and has shown to be normal in that aspect however she is not able to walk well and we believe it to be neurolgic.She is hanging in there and we are praying..alot!!! |
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Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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I just read this, and I'm rolling here.
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Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tonopah, NV, USA
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| ![]() I never said the women I work with are not also receiving licensed psychiatric care. All of them do. All of them see therapists and doctors and social workers and counselors and go to 12 step meetings. I never said the yorkie thing was the WHOLE program I offer. I have more than one nonprofit I am a part of just as some of you have more than one job. Some have 5013c status and some dont' The one I can offer a receipt for is tax exempt. I also offered payments so I am not trying to get anything for free. Some people prefer to hold onto the receipt so they can deduct it off their taxes until I pay them cash and then tear up the receipt. I don't know who has puppies off the right age. So I ran more than one ad in more than one site. So shoot me. Most people do run more than one ad in more than one place when they want something. Some of the breeders were not in Nevada, but some were in CA where my aunt lives. To avoid putting the dog on a plane, for their safety, I said if anyone in CA had a yorkie I could have my aunt pick them up and drive them to me in Nevada. I never said I wanted another dog for my aunt to own. I also don.t know where this puppy mill thing is coming from. I said I wanted a breeding pair. Yes I have bred yorkies before and because of that I know sometimes a couple don't get along. I helped my grandmother breed poodles too and know the same thing. I would like to try and get a pair bred. I came here because between the vet who is offering full medical care, I wanted some advice and support for those late night hours and to learn more so I could learn more and not have to make the vet do everything. I would like to learn more and cant without trying. I never said anything other than maybe one or maybe two litters. I am not starting a puppy mill and if that is what I wanted I would not have come here. I came here to get good advice and guidance. Puppy mill people don't do that. I never said I was going to adopt the pups without them being spayed. That is what the vet said they would do. I just asked for the parents to be able to breed. I never said I was going to adopt a dog into the hands of an unstable person. I said tbey would be coming over to help me with them and watch to learn more. No you can not get grants for this unless the person has some experience. Experience which they can get with me and then I can help them get grants to get into more formal schools. I never said this was a cure all for abused women. Every survivor needs something different. Which also means there are some who can't trust people at all to open up to get help because of the severity of the abuse at the hands of more than one person. In those cases, learning to trust the dog helps them to open up to people to get the right help. I never said I wanted to become a career breeder. I want to breed maybe one or two litters under the mentorship of my vet and maybe other breeders. I was hoping if one of the girls showed a real knack for it one of you might consider taking her on as an intern. I just can't get over the way everything is being completely turned into something it isn't here. I understand you are worried about protecting your yorkies. But I can provide you will all kinds of evidence they would be in great hands. Everyone is jumping to attack without even getting the facts straight first. It's like you were fine when I was asking to get a pair on payments, but as soon as everyone found out the women I was going to use the yorkies to help everyone wants me to leave which also cuts them off. Using a dog to help someone heal is no more exploiting a dog than a german shephard being trained to be a drug sniffing dog. Only letting abused girls spend time with them to feel love is less dangerous. You all should be ashamed of yourself by trashing me unjustly this way. All that means is I have to find some elsewhere and be deprived of the advice and guidance offered here. You say you care about yorkies, yet you would rather I go out there and do this without benefit of your vast experience and guidance and mentoring and without you being able to check in on them whenever you want to see how it is gonig. How is that best for the dogs? |
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Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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| ![]() If you want to teach these women a trade, open up a business similar to Build A Bear..that is the ONLY animals you should be dealing with. You can make all kinds and even puppies! Stuff them and love them. And not be exploiting them.
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Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | ![]() Then why aren't you *hearing* it? Jody, in my eyes, you are not *getting* it at all. A true healer, a person truly interested in healing would not go out seeking intact dogs for the purpose of breeding as therapy. And seeking just any dogs - posting all over, in for sale sections, in RESCUE sections, whereEVER. HOW HEALING do you think it would be for a RESCUE dog to go through BREEDING? Do you think it would be healing for an abuse survivor to be forced into pregnancy too???? A true healer would find an altered rescue dog who also needs healing --> heal and love that dog FIRST, and then see if that dog WANTED to heal others as part of its journey. END of story. Frankly, as a sexual abuse survivor myself, I find many of your remarks about survivors cavalier, flippant, and downright naive.
__________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann | Pfeiffer | Marcel Verdel Purcell | Wylie | Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° |
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Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tonopah, NV, USA
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| ![]() Everything you are saying is not accurate about what this is about. Also, not everyone is capable of attending a regular trade school. I am also not exploiting an animal anymore than when the ASPCA runs the commercials of the abused animals to raise money for their work, or PETA shows abused animals to solicit donations, or they train german shephards to work with police. I am not doing any exploiting. I am looking for a pair of yorkies that I can own and breed. During that time, I have many of these young girls at my house for counseling, meetings, etc. It is time for them to spend with the dogs to get some unconditional love. If having them around to offer unconditional love to people who really need it is exploitive, then most pet owners are guilty. As for some of the programs you mentioned, they don't exist in Tonopah or for at least 300 miles from here. You really should see what I was wanting to do before jumping on me over something that has nothing to do with it. |
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