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Old 11-01-2005, 01:31 PM   #1
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Hi Everyone,

I posted this in the US forums before I realise there was a European one.
I lost my Yorkie in February and I'm now looking to get a new baby. I want to get another Yorkie but I'm a bit aprehensive as Bubbles had so many health problems.

I'm looking for a UK breeder or pet store, anywhere where I can get some advice and find a new toy yorkie to give a home to.

Hope someone has some pointers.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:19 AM   #2
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I wish you luck on your search. I wish I had some pointers for you but I have had no luck finding a yorkie in England either...I know there are breeders out there!!! Please don't buy a yorkie from a pet store as they get all their babies from a puppy mill. It is terrible to support puppy mills!
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:52 AM   #3
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I found a lovely breeder through the Kennel Club and I have two little Yorkies on their way to me in two weeks. I'm very excited. They are two little boys, I met them last week for the first time and they are gorgeous.
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I'm so excited for you!!! TWO! How much fun!!! Good luck, and I can't wait to see pictures of your baby boys!
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I found a lovely breeder through the Kennel Club and I have two little Yorkies on their way to me in two weeks. I'm very excited. They are two little boys, I met them last week for the first time and they are gorgeous.
Great! That is soo exciting! I am so happy you found a dog...TWO dogs! Boy you are going to have your hands full soon!
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Thats so exciting wow 2 pups can hardly wait to see pics!!
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:43 PM   #7
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Confused I need to know what kind of yorkie to get!

I need to know what kind of yorkie to get. I hear where there are aka, uka, aba, abr and all kinds of registered ones and I am so confused! Will it matter which to get? And I want a female. I am wanting to get one to breed later on and sell puppies. Is is ok to have a Uka or Aka and then a ABA or whatever? If that makes sense! Paisleys Mom
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Can a dog be registered AKC if it has been registered through one of the other registrys first? Could one of you breeders please answer this for us?
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Hi,

I know a breeder near Blackburn in Manchester if thats any use. Its where I am getting mine from. PM me and I'll send the details.

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Can a dog be registered AKC if it has been registered through one of the other registrys first? Could one of you breeders please answer this for us?
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No, the dog would not be able to be AKC registered unless both its parents were AKC registered as well.
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Here is a article that talks about what the registries all mean.

The oldest and most recognized all-breed registries in North America are the CKC (Canadian Kennel Club) the AKC and the UKC (United Kennel Club) These registries exist to promote and advance the purebred dog. They approve breed standards, maintain birth records, promote responsible ownership, sponsor and sanction dog shows and performance events, maintain offical records of these events and award titles.

Registration is not, however, PROOF OF QUALITY. The breed registries essentially the paperwork for the keeping records, though they do have regulations that must be followed they DO NOT police the breeders. In simple terms, a reg'd puppy means that he was born to reg'd parents. The responsible breeder's main goal in breeding is always to improve on their breed and in your search for a purebred dog, it is your responsibility to be selective and verify the breeder you choose.

So how important is a reg'd dog? If your goal is to show, or breed then registration papers are very important. If your goal is simply to find a companion dog go to your local shelter, If however your looking for a specific breed, a purebred dog, registration papers are still important even if you have no intentions of showing or competing with your dog. Why? because you have the ability to see the chosen puppy's ancestry. It also provides a means for a responsible breeder to track pedigree of breeding stock and make an educated decision on breeding.

In your research to finding a responsible and reputable breeder, the registry used by the breeder does play an important part. If the breed is a recognized CKC, AKC or UKC but the breeder is not registering his/her litters with the same registry be cautious and find out why! There are several reasons why a breeder would choose one of these but the vast majority of reason are not good for example being suspended from the AKC, CKC or the UKC or that the breeder refuses to abide by the code of ethics or one of many other reasons. Bottomline is a RED FLAG must be raised as to why the breeder is not using one of these registries. In addition, even if the dog is not a recognized CKC, AKC or UKC breed you need to find a breeder who is registering his dogs with the most reputable registry-single breed or all breed.

A list of other all-breed registries are ACA, APR, APRI, ARU, CRCS, CKC (Continental Kennel Club), DRA, FIC, IPDBA, NKC, NAPDR, UABR, UKCI, WKC , WWKC. Caution should be exercised when dealing with a breeder who registers with any of these registries, many breeders use the registries because they are unable to meet the more demanding requirements of the CKC (Canadian Kennel Club), AKC or UKC.

APR - starts a pedigree file with the infomation sent by the owner of the unpapered dog so he may become papered. They take the owners word for it no proof is required that it is a purebred.

APRI promotes the sale of a dog through distributors and retailers (puppy mills). They offer FREE dual registration on dogs from other reg' services to profession breeders. A "professional breeder" is one who has three or more breeding females and who regularly sells puppies in the pet market.

CKC (Continental Kennel Club) does not require a past pedigree to register a dog. They will register the offspring of any purebred dog not as purebreds but as the offspring of the purebreds under their miscellaneous section. Tehy also provide special rates to the kennels that register 10 or more breeding stock dogs (puppymills)

CRCS recognizes and tracks and papers dogs whose lineage DO NOT follow the standards of a breed, also considered an "all canine" registry. They register cross breeds or out of standard dogs.

DRA registers cross breeds such as cocker-poos and peke-a-poos

IPDBA may accept any new breed regardless of ancestry for reg purposes provided it meets the criteria of being phenotypically different from an existing recognized breed.

NAPDR A purebred dog that does not have registration papers may be registered by sending pictures. Also NAPDR has commercial rates for breeders that have 5 or more breeding dogs (puppy mills)

UABR promotes the sale of dogs through retailers and promotes retailers as a reliable source of healthy pets. Stating on their website as factual documentation that the health of puppies purchased from retailers (puppy mills) are equal and in many ways superior to those attained from other sources (the breeder).

UKCI will reg cross breeds under special registration programs as well will register a dog for whatever reason it is not registered in the litter or either the sire/dame is not registered or perhaps registry was denied from other registries. Also extends bulk discounts to breeders.

WKC reg's dog with no past history.

WWKC will register new breed (cross breed) or rare breed

I hope all this information is helpful to those buyers that are not aware of the many different registries and what each registries mission is.

Bottomline here is to proceed with caution and know your breeder and why they opt to reg with the alternative agencies. And for those breeders that explain "its because of cost" are perhaps the ones you want to avoid for those are more often the puppy mills that are in the breed for profit (quantity not quality) not abiding to the animal care principles nor their well being, more often than not producing substandard health and quality of the breed.

This doesnt mean ALL registries I listed above produce only inferior breed stock because there are respectable, responsible and caring breeders that may have aquired their dogs without papers but the dame/sire are AKC but purchased on a NO Breed contract. If that be the case some breeders have no choice than to paper their dogs else where giving credibility to the breeding program. Simply question them, ask them outright why they chose their registry and if you are comfortable with the breeder, their explaination and the quality of litter they produce don't be hesitant (unless your objective is to purchase a show quality dog and your intent is to show him/her even then there are no guarantees you have a champion).
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I know a breeder near Blackburn in Manchester if thats any use. Its where I am getting mine from. PM me and I'll send the details.

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