Beware of Byrlaur Puppies - Maine
 

Please take caution if you are considering a Brylaur Puppy.

Here is the Website:
http://hometown.aol.com/brylaur2/home.html

I tried to educate myself in my search for my babies (I had not discovered YT at the time :( ), anyway, I thought I knew enough - mainly to stay away from Pet Stores...

I fell in love with TJ and Roxy - and what a deal, I could get them at the same time! I was on the search for 2 and I found them :) TJ and Roxy have the same father - different mothers :p

I believed the above breeder and truely thought I was getting 2 well taken care of babies. You be the judge!

TJ has a roach back, he has Immflamitory Bowel Disease (IBD), luxating patella in both rear legs, he has approx. 9 adult teeth that never formed from the jaw.

Roxy has collapsing trachea, luxating patella in both rear legs, when I got her she was 6 months old and she NEVER had her teeth brushed - what makes that so bad, was that she had ALL her babies and ALL her adult teeth - BIG TIME TARTAR, etc...

I did recommend the breeder once (before I know about all their problems) and that person got 2 baby girls from the breeder (same parents as Roxy). One girl - so far is healthy. The other girl is sick - liver disease, maybe a liver shunt! The Vet said her 1 year old liver was that of an OLD, OLD dog!

I have made numerous attempts at contacting the breeder, THEY COULD CARE LESS! They told me LP can be caused by injury and NONE of their dog have it! When I told them Roxy was going in for surgery, NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD...What makes me most upset is that these were their pups - only 1 year ago...And they didn't even care to conatct me to ask if Roxy was ok after surgery - HOW DISGUSTING!!! SHAME ON ALL BREEDERS THAT ACT THIS WAY! :mad:

I just couldn't live with myself if I did not share my story, please take caution with this breeder. I know better now. I would not recommend a breeder like this anymore. :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown

Feel free to PM me if anyone wants to discuss anything I have said further.

this is a section from their contract...did you sign one?...they do not state a time limit ...perhaps that is something you can hang your hat on!

Genetic Guarantee!! We guarantee this puppy to be free from birth defects!! Should this puppy/dog die, must be put to sleep or is found to have a proven birth defect than a replacement puppy, of the same quality, will be offered. The replacement puppy does not have to the same breed, this can be decided by both parties. This puppy does NOT have to be returned to the breeder as long as the breeder is provided with the medical reports and written statement from the new owners Veterinarian. The written statement MUST include the proven genetic problem and a complete description of the puppy/dog. Please do not just send the medical reports, that just tells us the problem and NOT the cause. New owner is completely responsible for any and all transportation and medical expenses..

I am so sorry Nicole that this happend to you. I do hope your babies will be ok.
You must be devestated for them. How people can literally screw someone else for $ is so hard to believe not to mention not caring about the health of the animals they are breeding! I read this over and over on this site about breeders. I have learned so much from this site over the past year. I actually purchased Buddy from a private pet store!:eek: I had no idea about these stores at the time. However, he was born in Budapest, Hungary and is the picture of health, large 13.5lbs but healthy! I hope everything works out for your babies. Keep us posted on their health.

this link is posted on her site as well
http://hometown.aol.com/brylaur2/MaineLaws.html


7~4155. Rights of the Purchaser
1. Unfit for Sale. If within 10 days after receipt of the animal by the purchaser, a veterinarian states in writing that the animal has a health problem that existed in the animal at the time of delivery or if, within one year after receipt of the animal by the purchaser, a veterinarian states in writing that due to a hereditary or congenital defect the animal has died or has a condition that will shorten its life or will require constant treatment during its life, the animal is considered to have been unfit for sale at the time of sale.
2. Death; Remedies. When an animal dies due to a health problem that would have rendered the animal unfit for sale pursuant to subsection 1, and that health problem existed in the animal at the time of delivery but was not disclosed under the provisions of section 4152, the pet dealer shall provide the purchaser with one of the following remedies selected by the purchaser:
A. An animal of equal value, if available; or
B. A refund of the full purchase price of the animal.
3. Health Problem; Remedies. When an animal has a health problem that that renders the animal unfit for sale pursuant to subsection 1, and that health problem existed in the animal at the time of delivery to the purchaser but was not disclosed under the provisions of section 4152, the pet dealer shall provide the purchaser with one of the following remedies selected by the purchaser:
A. Return of the animal to the pet dealer for a refund of the full purchase price of the animal;
B. Exchange of the animal of the purchaser's choice of equivalent value, providing a replacement is available; or
C. Retainment of the animal and reimbursement for 1/2 of the resonable veterinary fees not to exceed 1/2 of the original purchase price of the animal.
4. Veterinary Service; Fees. The fee for veterinary service is reasonable if the service is appropriate for the diagnosis and treatment of the health problem and the fee for the service is comparable to fees charged by other veterinarians who are in proximity to the treating veterinarian.

7~4156. Responsibilities of Purchser
To obtain the remedies provided in section 4155, the purchaser has the following responsibilities with respect to an animal with a health problem.
1. Veterinary Diagnosis. The purchaser must notify the pet dealer, within 2 business days, of the diagnosis by a veterinaarian of a health problem and provide the pet dealer with the name and telephone number of the veterinarian and a copy of the veterinarian report on the animal.
2. Refund. If the purchaser wishes to recieve a full refund for the animal, the purchaser must return the animal not later than 2 business days after receipt of a written statement from a veterinarian indicating that the animal is unfit due to a health problem. With respect to a dead animal, the purchaser must provide the pet dealer with a written statement from a veterinarian indicating that the animal died from a health proble that existed on or before the receipt of the animal by the purchaser.

Thanks Kim for your information. Yes, I did sign a contract that had those exact words from them. The problem is that (from my understanding) if I were to get 'anything' from them...it would be another puppy. Which I DO NOT WANT! I wouldn't even want a puupy from them to give free to someone!

I have learned sooooooo much from YT and I share that knowledge to everyone. My DH and I love TJ and Roxy so much, we pretty much would die for them as if they were our flesh and blood. We are committed to providing the absolute best life for them, including any medical attention they need.

I just feel so aweful that I had that much faith in someone that could probably fall into the category of BYB or worse - puppymill. I hate that someone else bought 2 girls - under my recommendation. These poor helpless pups, they are victims of irresponsible and greedy souls.
The carelessness is just unbelievable. It is such a shame. :(

i just don't understand how people like that can have clear concious and not think about the babys they are producing being sick and suffering just for money! i hope your dogs will be ok!

noe of their dogs look groomed at all either

http://hometown.aol.com/brylaur2/adults.html

It is so very sad :(

I think TJ and Roxy will be ok, Roxy has had surgery for LP (both legs), but one leg is luxating again, so she has to go back again for surgery. TJ will also have to have surgery. Roxy's CT, is mild, but we still have to take caution.

The other little girl with the 'bad' liver, I hope she will be ok too, but only time will tell.

It really is just such a shame, b/c these genetic defects could so easily be disolved, if only more of the breeders in this world would do proper screening of their breeding dogs (or just not breed at all) - greed is a very evil thing.

It appears by Maine law you would be entitled to 50% refund and you still have possession of the dog...you may want to look into that.

I will look into it more, Thanks Kim.

Although, it says, within 1 year from when I got them. Which I think was 5/23/05. I did get the first confirmation from my general vet about Roxy this past spring, I will have to go back and look at my records...


C. Retainment of the animal and reimbursement for 1/2 of the resonable veterinary fees not to exceed 1/2 of the original purchase price of the animal.

I paid $700 for TJ and $800 for Roxy - so if they had to give me something the most it would be is $750 (Better than nothing, considering Roxy's LP is at $3000 plus another $600 (re-surgery) and then TJ will be another $3000 :eek:

It seems like they are inbreeding. Max and Draco are father and son and seem to be the only males. Then you have Onya and Tara. Max is their father and Draco is their brother. I could be wrong but I don't think that is a good idea to breed them.

They say that they don't breed Max anymore. They say they never breed Draco. On page 2 you will see Toto - That is my 2 fathers, and he seems to be the father of all the pups that have been listed in the past year.
But, who knows for sure, right!

Go Kim! Way to help a fellow yorkie talker out once again!:thumbup: :goodpost: :notworthy

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I talked with this breeder..seh said she was unaware of any unhappy buyers with genetically unsounds pups...but if she did know about the buyers she would correct the problem...sooo I would take her up on it..good luck

WOW, that's very interesting. I have saved all of our communications via e-mails. She definitely knows about IBD and the LP, and she told me that the mucus poop problems, etc...are because I changed TJ food from (crap)-Eukenuba to a high quality food and that I should have kept them on the Eukenuba. When I told them about the LP, they said LP can be caused by injury and that Roxy's parents and TJ's parents DO NOT HAVE LP and they HAVE NEVER PRODUCED ANY PUPS WITH LP...end of story!
I continued to tell them about the surgery required and I got NO RESPONSE!
They could care less...BUT I will gather all my info again over the weekend and contact them about all of this further.

I basically just wanted to tell my story and tell how VERY DISAPPOINTED I am with this breeder. I wanted to list all the problems that TJ and Roxy have, so that if anyone was thinking about this breeders pups, maybe my story could help them to make a decision.

Again Thanks, I will try to pursue this as far as I can, because it just makes me sooooooo mad how they just don’t seem to care at all! :mad:

...also on the AKC Suspension List
 

...I also just found out that they are on the AKC Suspension List :eek:
http://www.barkbytes.com/suspend/suspindx.htm#a

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http://www.barkbytes.com/suspend/suspca.htm

Castle Bryant Whitefield ME 5/7/01 5/7/11 multiple
for failure to comply with recordkeeping and identification requirements.
(6/01)
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Castle Laura Whitefield ME 5/7/01 5/7/11 multiple
for failure to comply with recordkeeping and identification requirements.
(6/01)

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I was sure you had told her about the problems...but that was her response back to me.
I hope you are able to recoup some or all of your expenses...good Luck

oh man that sucks !! You do have 2 adorable yorkies but that's just wrong that they're selling so many with problems. I would report them AND try to recoup some of your money - maybe they'll think again before they breed those same poor dogs...and you know they still are - people like that just don't care - all they see is $$ signs in every puppy sold.

Omg That Person Is Sick :(!!!

How Are Ur Dogs Doing Now?

Thanks for asking.

Roxy had her first LP surgery in Aug 06 and then a second LP surgery in Nov 06.

She is a BRAND NEW Girl. I can't believe how great she is doing. She must have been in pain and/or discomfort, b/c she is doing things she never did before and she has so much more confidence.

TJ is also doing well. He will have his LP surgery in May, but I am sure all will go well with him too! ;)

Well, I just spoke with my Groomer and she told me that another family from their town had bought a male pup from Brylaur and after spending $4000 in Vet bills to try and save him, he died at nine months. They did an autopsy and ALL of his organs were that of an old, old dog (Vet's guess would be of a 13 year old).

PLEASE be cauious with Brylaur

IMO I would never purchase from them ever, ever, ever!

OMG!!!!!!!!!! I hope that they take her butt to court and sue her a$$!!!!:mad:

This is so sad and this person needs to answer for what they've been doing to people!:( :thumbdown

I'm so sorry you are going through this. I have a (perhaps ignorant) question-but it's the only way I learn. What does it mean that the pup had all the organs of an old dog? That they sold an old dog? Again, sorry if I'm sounding dumb.

No need to be sorry.

The male pup was 9 months old when he died.
They did an autopsy, and the Vet said that the pup was so sick and that his organ were so damaged - like you would see in a much older sick dog. Judging by the organs, he would have said they belong to a dog around 13 years of age (but the pup was only 9 months old).

...make sense now ;)

That's terrible :( Thank you for responding.

Being from Maine and a breeder myself it pains me to read your story. I'm very sorry you were taken in by this woman.
I know she's advertising "designer" pups now as well in the uncle henry's magazine.
When you first took home your puppies and had them checked out by your Vet, why didn't he find anything wrong with them then? Or did the problems all start as they got older?
Its to bad that the State can't somehow shut her down. Maybe if enough people complained about her they would.

Well, thanks for responding to my thread. It does sadden me to read your post and that you know who this woman is. I could cry.

I had no idea what she was all about until everything just started to unfold.

Things started to happen one by one with TJ and Roxy and as they grew. First TJ had his GI problems that we can now say is IBD. That started as soon as I got him. Then Roxy's CT started and then a few months later her LP and then TJ's LP, along with the other defects.

I just had them both tested for their Bile Acid. I am just praying now that the results are ok. :( They show no symtoms, but b/c of what I have found out about the other pups, well, I just wanted to get them tested to make sure they are ok.

I wish there was a way to SHUT them down. I keeping looking at their website and how disgusting that place looks like. I feel so bad for the animals living there! And for the life of me I can't figure out how these people think it is safe to have little Yorkies running around with Horses (of all sizes), goats, pigs, etc...I can only imagine what that place is all about

Your story is just so sad. I truly hope the Bile Acid tests come back negative for LS and your pups don't have to go through any more pain and suffering.
I also wanted to tell you that even though I know what you've and they been through is hell that your Yorkies are beautiful.
You know the weird thing is that we get calls for puppies all the time from Massachusetts, New Hampshire and New York people. They tell us that the reason they are looking in Maine is because they don't trust the breeders in their State. That Maine has this reputation for having honest people. Well your story just goes to show everyone what I already knew and that is that there are crooks and bad breeders everywhere.
I wish you and your puppies the best. :)

Well...here the lastest. The results from the Bile Acid Test - NOT GOOD :mad:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92003

Hello Everyone.

We have been sent a link to this thread from several people encouraging us to post. I'm not much of a public speaker. We received loads of emails and sent several replies. We also asked for copies of medical reports from the Veterinarian that we never received. Our Veterinarian is great and we have been with him for 25+ years. He did an exam on both of these babies prior to them leaving our home and I can assure you if he detected anything they would have not gone anywhere, they were sent home with his written exam. We listen 100% to our Veterinarian and follow his recommendations, any problems we take the medical reports directly to him and he will talk with the other Veterinarian involved, he's great. Emails were sent after Roxy's surgery and at that point we stopped getting anything from the new owner. And still never any medical reports.

As far as the 9 month old that died after $4,000.00 in medical bills, I read this here. No reports from the new owners. I'm pursuming this was recent and went back and checked the litter we had in the fall and the one early spring and our records show there were no puppies sold to long island during that time frame.

We are a very small in home breeder and we don't have very many litters per year. We use to show in confirmation and obdience when we got started with dogs over 25 years ago and now we just do not have the time to show in open, more 4-H stuff.

We are more that happy to answer any questions. We are on dial up so getting on this site isn't always easy and we do lose the connection a lot.

You must have us mixed up with someone else. We are not now or ever will advertise our puppies as "designer pups". What's a designer puppy anyway? A mix?? As far as Uncle Henry's we very rarely even put ads in their magazine for puppies. Not sure where you saw these ads, but I'm love to see who is putting them in as far as saying they are us.