Please - What a joke! You are not properly scanning your breeding dogs. I have tried many, many, many times to get some type of "CONCERNED" response from you about the 2 pups I purchased from you - oh that you considered "Our Babies Too!" - Please - You didn't even know who I was and who Roxy and TJ's parents were! You needed me to explain it all to you (and that was less than 1 years of "You Babies" leaving Your establishment. And you the bit about you being a small breeder and a show breeder...PLEASE...

WHY DID THE AKC BAN BOTH YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND????????

Oh and by the way - Roxy (who you called Jeda) her parents are Jazzy and Toto has extremely HIGH BAT levels - She goes for an Ultrasound on 9/5 - which will determine IF she has a LIVER SHUNT or MVD -
************ ANOTHER CONGENTIAL DEFECT ******************
Produced by YOU and YOUR LACK OF SCANING YOUR BREEDING DOGS!!!!

And TJ (who you called Dustin) his parents are Dandie and Toto also has HIGH BAT levels. After Roxy's goes for her ultrasound, TJ will have one too! Although we suspect he just has MVD.
************ ANOTHER CONGENTIAL DEFECT ******************
Produced by YOU and YOUR LACK OF SCANING YOUR BREEDING DOGS!!!!

As far as sending you medical records, from your response (and lack of responses) to me, you told me that LP can also be from injury. You didn't care to contact me after I told Roxy (Jeda) was going in for major surgery, you didn't contact me to make sure "Your Baby" made in through major surgery ALIVE - So at that point, WHY ON EARTH would I go out of my way to send you her medical records - SO YOU CAN THROW THEM IN THE TRASH :mad:

Ya know what - After Roxy and TJ get their untrasounds done, and possible surgery to repair possible liver shunts, and than after I consult numerous nutritionist to get a good balanced diet for liver compromised dogs, then I will put a WHOLE BOOKLET together of all their medical records stating ALL THE CONGENTIAL DEFECTS produced by YOU and YOUR LACK OF SCANING YOUR BREEDING DOGS!!!!

AND THEN - I am threw with you! And you can take that booklet and shove it you all I care! :mad: :mad: :mad:

About the other pup that died. The 'new' owner is just devastating beyond words. I don't have the specifics about his name or anything like that, BUT, he did purchase this male pup from you, no doubt about that. I can't tell you why he hasn't contacted you, maybe, he is just heart broken and knows that you won't do anything about it. Plus, I would never want a replacement pup from you and maybe he feels the same way, I don't know. I just stated information that was told to me. And THANK GOD, I was told this information, b/c that's what prompted me to get Roxy and TJ - BAT levels tested, and THANK GOD again, that they are still young and that whatever the outcome is I can help prolong their lives either by surgery and/or diet!

You should be ashamed :mad:

We have been sent a link to this thread from several people encouraging us to post. I'm not much of a public speaker. We received loads of emails and sent several replies. (You are RIGHT, I have sent you many, many, many e-mails - BUT with hardly any response from you) We also asked for copies of medical reports from the Veterinarian that we never received. Our Veterinarian is great and we have been with him for 25+ years. He did an exam on both of these babies prior to them leaving our home and I can assure you if he detected anything they would have not gone anywhere, they were sent home with his written exam. (The ONLY thing that you sent home with them, was the records of shots and worming, there was NO writen report from your Vet) We listen 100% to our Veterinarian and follow his recommendations, any problems we take the medical reports directly to him and he will talk with the other Veterinarian involved, he's great. (Well, honestly maybe a new Vet is in order - b/c Roxy's teeth were beyond DISGUSTING when I got her, and ANY GOOD VET after seeing such hossible teeth would have suggested to you that maybe you could BRUSH TEETH - So if your Vet MISSED such a standard thing like TEETH, well, I don't trust him at all!) Emails were sent after Roxy's surgery and at that point we stopped getting anything from the new owner. And still never any medical reports. (See my reply in the other post, but know that you didn't contact me after her surgery)
As far as the 9 month old that died after $4,000.00 in medical bills, I read this here. No reports from the new owners. I'm pursuming this was recent and went back and checked the litter we had in the fall and the one early spring and our records show there were no puppies sold to long island during that time frame. (See my other post)

We are a very small in home breeder and we don't have very many litters per year. We use to show in confirmation and obdience when we got started with dogs over 25 years ago and now we just do not have the time to show in open, more 4-H stuff. (Again, WHY DID THE AKC BAN YOU????)

We are more that happy to answer any questions. We are on dial up so getting on this site isn't always easy and we do lose the connection a lot.
It's funny that you'd be more than happy to answer any questions, b/c everytime there was phone communication, you NEVER got on the phone, you had your husband speak - strange :confused:

I going to leave this all on this note:

We love TJ and Roxy like they were our children. We will provide any and all type of health care they need for the rest of lives, regardless of how it pains us emotionally and financially. We are committed to them 100% - We are so Thankful to God for them, as they are gifts from God (and God alone). I Thank God everyday for him giving TJ and Roxy to US, b/c I am just not sure they would have been given every opportunity at the BEST life if they were in someone elses hands.

In all my e-mails to you, I told you all the facts provided to me by my Ortho Specialist and all the numerous information that can be found on the internet, by people who have researched and documented fact findings. I told you all the $ we have and will spend on them as a result of your poor scanning of breeding dogs. I never threatened to sue you for money or to take you to court, etc...I honestly wanted you to know so that you could possibly go about your breeding in a different manner. I also was hoping that you would have cared and shown me some sort of compassion about having to subject them to major surgery. This was all under 1 year of me having them.

But, I guess I should I have learned way back in the beginning during the first few months I had them from you, when TJ was having those HORRIBLE episodes of mucus poop and vomit, every other day. I remember explaining this all to you and how the Vet put him on Meds. and a special diet. You were pretty much pissed at me for taking them off of the Euk. dry food and chicken w/honey. You told me that another customer of yours went through the same thing, but you told her to go back to the Euk. and chicken and now everything was fine. You just didn't get it, that TJ was truly sick, sick b/c he has IBD. I guess I should have realized that the compassion and care is obviously not there for you.

Respond however you want. I held all this in for a very long time, and when more stuff started to happen, I just couldn't take it anymore. I truly feel that people that care about Yorkies needed to hear the story of Roxy and TJ.

I can understand you being very upset you really LOVE these dogs and it shows deeply. It's great that these two have such a wonderful person to care for them. I did email you after the surgery and heard nothing back from you. I answered all your emails and showed concern and kept asking for the medical reports.

AKC was asked to leave our home after the inspector refused to wear protective clothing in our puppy area (which is also our bedroom). We have had viruses brought in before and we are just not willing to take the chance again. We bred and showed AKC completely until that point and were not happy with their new policy.

I did reply to all your emails and show concern about these puppies. Jeda was our baby for 6 months before she was yours and we (my husband and I) both spent many nights with her and her hypoglycemia to keep her with us. That's why she was 6 months old before she was released from here (and you knew this), we got very attached to her, as we do with all the puppies, but more so with her because she had such a rocky road.

Testing the parents doesn't guarantee the puppies are going to be free of defects the combination of the two parents can produce problems and where you have two, the medical reports from your Vet would have been a great start for us to work with our Vet, your Vet and with you on the problem. But you were not willing to send any of that to us. We have been over this with our Vet many times and it only shows the one being tested to be free not what will happen when you breed the two, that's why we have no time limit on our guarantee, even though this State only requires one year for genetics.

It didn't have to come to this if you had just sent the reports from your Veterinarian how hard would that have been??

WOW - That's amazing that the AKC would list the following about your ban, when according to you, you were the ones that left the AKC. (Odd to say the least).

http://www.barkbytes.com/suspend/suspca.htm

Castle Bryant Whitefield ME 5/7/01 5/7/11 multiple
for failure to comply with recordkeeping and identification requirements.
(6/01)
--------------------------------------------------

Castle Laura Whitefield ME 5/7/01 5/7/11 multiple
for failure to comply with recordkeeping and identification requirements.
(6/01)


Laura, please don't try to make me NOW believe that you really showed care back then. I am not stupid. I have a perfect memory of all our correspondences (plus, I have all the e-mails in my files too).

Sure you told me that Roxy had a few hypo experiences when she was young, but you told me she had been fine for a while, that it was when she was younger. You also had printed on your website and your husband told me over the phone, that you had planned on keeping Roxy for your breeding program, but she turned out to be too small, so that's why you were selling her. So, please don't make it seem that you held her for 6 months b/c of hypo attacks.

Testing the parents doesn't guarantee the puppies are going to be free of defects the combination of the two parents can produce problems and where you have two, the medical reports from your Vet would have been a great start for us to work with our Vet, your Vet and with you on the problem. But you were not willing to send any of that to us. We have been over this with our Vet many times and it only shows the one being tested to be free not what will happen when you breed the two, that's why we have no time limit on our guarantee, even though this State only requires one year for genetics.

Sure, but if you properly scan your breeding dogs (meaning, knowing a complete and thorough background of ALL the linage of your breeding dogs) can help to prevent defects. The lineage for Both TJ and Roxy was only a few listed, which leads me to believe you don't know very much information about the lineage of your breeding dogs.

About the records, you clearly stated in your e-mail response to me that: NONE of the pups produced by either parents have LP. Neither of the parents have LP. You told me that your Vet didn't find LP in Roxy and TJ. And lastly, you told me, Well LP can happen from injury too.

So what would me have sending you a piece of paper from the Ortho Specialist stating, Roxy has LP in both rear legs, that she had surgery to repair it do???? Would that have convinced you of something???? Would that have convinced your Vet of something????

Please do not make it seem that, that "Piece of Paper" was going to make any difference at all. You made it clear to me how your line of thinking was.

And now speaking of Congenital Defects...How do you feel about the current news of possible liver shunts and/or MVD???? Maybe that can happen from injury too? B/C I am sure you have NEVER had this congenital defect show up in any of your pups either???

It didn't have to come to this if you had just sent the reports from your Veterinarian how hard would that have been??

Again, please tell me what that piece of paper was going to do? Like I said before, you showed no compassion about what was happening, so why on earth would I have felt that sending that to you was going to make any difference at all? My husband and I were alone in that matter, you made it clear to me that LP didn't come from your dogs.

I came here and posted after much thinking and a lot of disappointment. I had decided to share my story and my experiences in hope of educating others. I am so emotionally distraut over this. The defects and problems just keep appearing one after another. It truly is devastating to say the least.

Here's a prime example of your lack of concern.

I had contacted you in the Spring of 2006 (almost 1.5 years ago) telling you about Roxy and TJ and their LP. So what happened in that time period??? Were you concerned at all of possible genetic defects in your breeding program???

TLC....this is so sad your pups are dealing with so many health issues, you and your husband must be so devastated......it's a shame that there are breeders out there with no regard for the pups they produce....I've been reading the posts and so far all I keep reading from the breeder is excuses, no where in her posts has she offered anything to you for these issues....is that not what a decent breeder would do?.....and of course if a pup has health issues there more than likely going to show up when their in the possession of the new owner, these things take time to manifest.....but of course it must be something the new owner caused.....please........

You clearly love these pups and it's wonderful your willing to do what you can to get them as well as can be expected to give them some quality to their lives....it's better than what some others would do....

Ya know I am so heart broken, putting Roxy through LP surgery was so hard, and the fact that she has CT as well made it very scarey, and in the back of my mind was the fact that I had to have TJ go for LP surgery as well. These are extremely exhausting surgeries and healing times. BUT now the new news that we are faced with, well, I feel like my broken heart has been ripped out, and what scares me is that this isn't the end of the new news. I still have to get ultrasounds done, and hear those results and then possible put them through a liver shunt surgery. I am crying just thinking about it. My poor Roxy Girl just hasn't had a decent break. She has spent her first 2.5 years struggling with one thing after another. It is so sad.

And YES, I agree with you. That's why I had stopped trying to communicate with Laura, b/c there was no compassion just excuses, and when you are here on YT and see how many caring breeders there really are, well, I just gave up on Brylaur and focused on Roxy and TJ.

Have offered no excuses for anything or placed any blame anywhere, but simply asked for medical reports as would any breeder in the same place. As was stated in my original post these medical reports would have been taken to our Veterinarian and he would have gone over these, and spoken to her Veterinarian and than we would have been able to talk about settling this, but that never happened.

Actually if you did read the AKC part of the post it stated that they were here and asked to leave, I never said we left AKC. When AKC comes to inspect they go through every area where there are any AKC dogs or puppies, even newborns. She (the inspector) was asked to leave because she would not wear protective gear, she never even got to the point of checking records and she could ID the adults with their Avid chips and she didn't even get that far, she was only in our home for maybe 10 minutes.

I am just here to tell our side of this. We were and are still very concerned about them and that's why we asked for the medical reports so we could resolve this. All we got from you were emails no phones calls and no Vet information.

Roxy was never planned as an addition to our breeding program, she was way too small right from the start. If she had stayed she would have been spayed and a pet as many of our dogs are.

Just a question then...why didn't you file a complaint against AKC that the inspector falsified records when they stated that you failed to comply with yours?

I suppose all the ads I've seen for Yorkie, Pug, Chi, and Fox Terrier puppies for sale in Whitefield, Me. in Uncle Henry's magazine the past few months could be someone elses but with a population of just over 2,000 I seriously doubt it. Gimme a break!!
You say on your website that your dogs are all raised underfoot and they as well as their puppies have full run of the house. That they are in the living room and bedroom. How many dogs do you have? I counted over 30+ adults on your website of various breeds. Are we suppose to believe that you have that many dogs running around underfoot plus all their puppies? Again, give me a break!
Your operation just screams puppymill and we all know it. Can you not see in the eyes of your own dogs in the pics you post on your site how unhappy they are?
Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now.

Just a question then...why didn't you file a complaint against AKC that the inspector falsified records when they stated that you failed to comply with yours?


Sorry, for some reason the posts aren't going through when I go through Quote, only on the post side.

Thanks for asking. We did file several formal letters of complaint with AKC and even called several board members. All we ever got back from them was the same replies, if you pay the $1,000.00 fine we will reinstate you. We just didn't feel after being in good standing with AKC for 20 years and been inspected many times that was right. All the other inspectors NEVER questioned putting on the protective gear. Another nearby breeder she visited the same day as us and she listed them the same way and she went to their home they were not even there, their teen age Daughter was and she of course wouldn't let them in the house. The inspector never even spoke to them or entered the house.

I may not be able to answer each and every post, we only have dial up and staying connected to this site has not been easy.

Laura,
This is how you advertised Roxy. Also, Bryant re-told this to me on the phone about her. (Oh by the way...she is just over 5 lbs.)

As far as your ban from the AKC. Who knows. All I can say is that if the AKC had listed 'for failure to comply with recordkeeping and identification requirements' and banned me for 10 years (after I had been a member in good standing for 20 years), well, I sure would have done what it takes to clear my name, that is if what they listed wasn't indeed true. After all, your business and good name are at stake, b/c any and all nationwide potential buyers have the liberty to contact AKC and double check things. But that's just IMO.


The following are some of your e-mail responses to me about the LP. Now, honestly, after reading these responses from you, it was clear to me how you felt and at that point I decided I needed to focus my energy on Roxy and TJ, verses trying to convince You and Your Vet of something. But, never the less, now that it is a 1.5 years later and NOW all of a sudden you are so concerned for Roxy and TJ. Sure, I'll send you the paperwork I have on them for LP and then when I get the paperwork relating to the BAT levels (MVD or Liver Shunt), I'll send those over to you too!

Oh, by the way...How old is Roxy's Mom (Jazzy)? If you see below, in June 2006 - Jazzy had 4 liters already! WOW - small breeder you are? Sure sounds like she was breed every heat cycle!



Here what you said to me:

Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: Hi Laura - It's about Roxy - Luxating Patella
Hello,
Patella problems can also caused by injury. How old is she? If they were detected when she left our Vet would have noted it on her health certificate. Who were her parents? Jeda, Jazzy?


Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: Hi Laura - It's about Roxy - Luxating Patella
Hello,
Patella problems are very common with these guys, they have such small bones and knee joints. Jazzy has not had any puppies as of yet with this problem. Debbie got her last two girls. Jazzy has had 4 litters with us and we've had her since she was a pup. Going up and down stairs really has nothing to do with it either, I have several Yorkies that will not do steps or jump on the couch and their patellas are fine. Jazzy & Toto both have good solid Patellas neither have a problem with slipping.


Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Hi Laura - It's about Roxy - Luxating Patella
Hello,
Not sure what to say sorry to hear about your guys. Did you mail a written statement from your Veterinarian that these where genetic problems? We were waiting on that. We use this and go over the problems with our Vet.
As far as Genetic Guarantee!! We guarantee this puppy to be free from birth defects!! At a young age you can not possibly know what may occur in a puppy so we do our best to keep our breeders clear, but things do happen and that's why we put a genetic guarantee in our contract, it's NOT misleading at all it's what we cover if something should happen. That's why they are Vet checked prior to leaving and these pups were older and nothing was found by our Vet at that time, so we would have no way of knowing any of this prior to them leaving.. We have been breeding Yorkies for 10 years and haven't had reports of these problems. With the knees they can also be injury, with the little guys it's very common. We have sold several puppies from these breeding's and just got a wonderful email from a lady that got one of the litter mates and is having no problems, of course she is much bigger, the little ones tend to have more problems because of their small size.
How old these guys? I'm thinking they are close to 2 years old. Not sure what you'd like us to do, we do cover life threatening problems so not sure about this one this is the first time we have had this one hit.. How you treat medical is up to you.


So, you see, is there anything in your responses to make me think you were going to do anything for me??? Come on. Like I said earlier, what is me sending you Roxy's report going to do for us Laura? Were you going to pay her $4000 bill? And were you going to pay TJ's $4000 bill?
NO - You and Your Vet were going to come back and tell me all the things that you had already told me...still banking on that LP can be from injury, b/c none of your dogs have and none produced LP dogs either.

Sorry, but at that point I just had enough of it. Roxy had to under go 2 surgeries back to back and then a small 3rd one to remove the pin. She still has one more LP surgery to go and God only knows if that will happen b/c she may have MVD or a Liver Shunt.

Again, when I posted this thread, I wanted to make it clear that I purchased 2 Yorkies with numerous Genetic Birth Defects from Brylaur in Maine, in hopes of saving others from this agony, because I truly find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe that I am the ONLY 'lucky' person to have purchased 2 pups from you(from different liters) and they BOTH have numerous DEFECTS.

Oh yes, by the way....

I can truly sense in ALL your above posts, your true and complete concern for Roxy and TJ and their possible MVD and/or Liver Shunts - thanks for that one too ;)

Did you have the tested with a pre-and post- fasting bile acid test? If so, what were the numbers then, and at what age were they tested?

I just read thru all of this and i'm truly sorry you have to go thru this. You did make every attempt to get in touch with your breeder to let them know the problems roxy and TJ.

To the breeder, Are you going to do anything about this? Both TJ and Roxy have so many problems and you sit back and do nothing. its a shame. I think you should step up and compensate Nicole for all the trouble and heartache she has gone through with her two pups.

I highly doubt it. Both Roxy and TJ came home with a Vet pamplet used to indicate what shots were given and those dates. Also written in were all the de-wormings that they received. That's it, no Health Guarantee from their Vet.

Thank you for your support.

I highly doubt they will compensate for anything what so ever. IMO this breeder is not a 'small home breeder'. Breeding seems to be their bread and butter. From the information I have read about them (on their own site), is they Breed and she does some small crafts (for craft fairs). I believe the husband get disability from the government. They also have a daugther (maybe 10 yrs. old now).

They Breed: Yorkies, Pugs, Toy Fox Terriers, Chia's and Brussel Griffens (and maybe other, I don't know).

They also own NUMEROUS Horses, Goats, Donkeys, Pigs (maybe other stuff too, who knows). I highly doubt they have hired help, so that would mean that ALL of this is taken care of by 2 people. Which for the life of me I can not figure out how this is safe? In some pictures on their site you'll see a tiny Yorkie next to a Horse :eek: (so sad).

One time they had pups for sale (I can't remember which breed it was) - But they were going to "Trade" a pup for a "Decent Running Car - to get them back and forth from the Airport" - I guess to be able to ship pups they sell.
That's sad to me, b/c after I read that and then started to take a good look around the site, I just felt in my heart that those poor animals are probably not being properly cared for. I mean the Yorkies alone are HIGH maintenance. I'm sorry, but there's no way it can all be done for all of those animals living there. (IMO)

That's what I'm figuring. That is why I brought it up. It's all fine and dandy for them to say they had the dog vet tested, but unless they can say that they had a complete BAT and the dog came through with flying colors, then they have no business bringing up the vet exam.:thumbdown

and a little concern would be nice too. Good luck! :)

:twocents:

RUN FROM THIS BREEDER$ or greeder!
 

Last summer my uncle who lives in Lewiston,Maine bought a chihuahua from this person it died within a week. My uncle was destroyed. He's trying to concact them but Hey caller ID is a amazing thing. Let's you avoid all responsabilty. Heads up. Bryluar,he's done waiting for a replacement pup and is contacting the authorities.

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If you purchase a phone card, it shows a unique number on caller ID...

Very interesting! Thank you for sharing your story and continuing to alert unkowing potential customer of exactly the kind of breeders Brylaur are (Irresponsible, Careless and Uncompationate).

Please tell your Uncle that I am so sorry for his loss, I can truly feel his devastation. I am so happy he is going to contact the authorities. Brylaur should be held responsible.

Laura and Bryant - Again, you truly should be ashamed of yourselves. :mad:

Just an FYI observation -
Since Laura (Brylaur) has been to this thread here on YT (which has only been since 8/24), she has pretty much 'taken down' a lot of her website pages - I just think that speaks volumes :rolleyes:

I'm so sorry this happened to you. What's wrong with people. If they don't know how to breed they should have them fixed.

This is really terrible!! I have a web site. How in the world am I to know if I'm selling to a puppy mill or a bad breeder? I have had some cookie people contact me. Some times I get bad vibes. Then other times I'm glad I didn't sell to the people who bought else where. I see their free web site. I started out with one of those free web sites with AOL. I check out the puppy agreement page and it kept coming back to the first page. There is no cuest book there. They can place anything they want to place on their site and make it look like somebody else said it. I see where they discuss Coccidia on there site. A vet will tell you differently. They have had trouble with this in the past and not clearing it up before the babies leave or else they wouldn't have posted it. I guess it's possible to have runny stool for one day from the stress. I really didn't like the extent that they went into about discussing it, kind of like they were used to complaints concerning coccidia. They show that they are un concerned, even when they write about it. I guess many of their pups have been sold with coccidia!!

Well I kind of figured out this about AKC, now you mention this. I did see that their dogs were APRI and CKC. That was the first thing that came to my mind is that they must have been suspended from AKC.