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09-29-2012, 07:17 AM | #3 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: montana
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| those poor pups |
09-29-2012, 10:16 AM | #4 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I hope people check out the links the first one tells of 4 counts of forgery against her, she forged the vet's signature. The vet says because it's relatively cheap to get a signature, and she's selling these dogs for $6000 that they are too sick or too young to sell. She specializes in teacups and I suspect she's telling people these dogs are older than they really are, so that they think they’re getting a smaller dog. These dogs are imported and are supposed to be at least 6 months. House.jpg Who says crime doesn't pay? 111215094620_ginger-turk-640.jpgGinger Turk from onceuponateapup.com By the way, she has lots of different names. I can only put two in the tags. Lets put the others, so people can google her.
__________________ NancyJoey Proud members of the CrAzYcLuB and YAP! ** Just Say No to Puppymills – Join YAP! Yorkshire Terrier Club of America – Breeder Referrals |
09-29-2012, 09:12 PM | #5 |
Mia, Max and Moe's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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| I just asked a few questions on the FB page - I'm sure it'll be deleted by morning - lol!
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09-30-2012, 02:33 AM | #6 |
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| Lynzy |
10-01-2012, 10:24 PM | #7 |
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| She locked down her facebook now wonder why??? hmmm....something to hide perhaps! |
10-01-2012, 10:28 PM | #8 |
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10-01-2012, 10:35 PM | #9 |
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| What is a Puppy Mills Puppy mills are dog breeding facilities that put profits ahead of the welfare of dogs. They don’t care about filth, disease, socialization, overcrowding. They don’t care about inbreeding or genetic defects. They don’t care about who adopts the puppies or about wearing out the breeding moms. They just care about making money. It’s a sad truth, but it’s the truth. Sadly, the vast majority of puppies purchased online come from puppy mills with terrible conditions. Documented abuse at puppy mills includes forced over-breeding, inbreeding, disease, overcrowding, filth and hunger. Puppies purchased from puppy mills frequently suffer from severe illness and behavioral problems. And conditions only get worse for the moms, who are forced to breed over and over again with little, if any, veterinary care. Once they can no longer reproduce, they are usually killed. Often, this is at the young age of four years old. Don’t be fooled by websites. If you can’t visit the puppy first, you may very well be getting one from a puppy mill. There are lots of great dogs out there. Know where yours is coming from. Sometimes it can be pretty hard to determine whether you’re getting a puppy mill dog, which is why we always recommend adopting from a shelter or rescue instead. That being said, here are some sure-fire puppy mill signs: No purchase criteria: Reputable breeders may do an extensive interview with potential applicants and may only let people that have been recommended by prior buyers have an opportunity to get a dog from their litter. They are very choosy about selecting the right families for their puppies. Puppy mills don't care who you are as long as you don't ask too many questions and have cash or credit card available. http://www.sfspca.org/sites/default/...akinghands.jpg Advertising: Reputable breeders generally don't need to advertise. They find their adopting families by referrals. Puppy mills place lots of ads online, often times under the guise of being reputable. Some online postings will go so far as to use the term “adopt” instead of buy. Reluctance for an inspection: Reputable breeders will gladly let you meet the parents of the dog, see where the puppies were born and how they’ve been treated since birth. Puppy mills generally will not let you see any of the living conditions. |
10-01-2012, 10:37 PM | #10 |
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| Buyer Beware: The Problem with Puppy Mills and Backyard Breeders Buyer Beware: The Problem with Puppy Mills and Backyard Breeders Choosing to bring a pet into your life can be a tough decision, especially when deciding where to get one. You might also have concerns about "puppy mills" or "backyard breeders," and want to know how to steer clear of them. Perhaps you don't even know what these are and need more information. As you begin your pet research, here are some things to consider. Puppy mills Puppy millsare commercial breeding facilities that mass-produce dogs (and cats in cat mills) for sale through pet stores, or directly to consumers through classified ads or the Internet. Roughly 90 percent of puppies in pet stores come from puppy mills. Many retailers who buy animals from such facilities take the wholesaler's word that the animals are happy and healthy without seeing for themselves. In most states, these commercial breeding kennels can legally keep hundreds of dogs in cages their entire lives, for the sole purpose of continuously churning out puppies. The animals produced range from purebreds to any number of the latest "designer" mixed breeds. Cat breeding occurs under similar conditions to supply pet stores with kittens. Animals in puppy mills are treated like cash crops They are confined to squalid, overcrowded cages with minimal shelter from extreme weather and no choice but to sit and sleep in their own excrement. Animals suffer from malnutrition or starvation due to inadequate or unsanitary food and water. Sick or dying animals receive little or no veterinary care. Adult animals are continuously bred until they can no longer produce, then destroyed or discarded. Kittens and puppies are taken from their mothers at such an early age; many suffer from serious behavior problems. Read about Wendy Laymon, a notorious, formerly Washington-based puppy mill breeder, who is still selling sick puppies on the internet. Learn what to do if you encounter her or have been a victim of her sales. Backyard breeders Backyard breeders are also motivated by profit. Ads from these unscrupulous breeders fill the classifieds. Backyard breeders may appear to be the nice neighbor next door-in fact, even seemingly good-intentioned breeders may treat their breeding pairs as family pets. However, continuously breeding animals for years to produce litters for a profit still jeopardizes the animals' welfare. Some backyard breeders may only breed their family dog once in awhile, but they often are not knowledgeable on how to breed responsibly, such as screening for genetic defects. Responsible, proper breeding entails much more than simply putting two dogs together. Look for these red flags: The seller has many types of purebreds or "designer" hybrid breeds being sold at less than six weeks old. Breeders who are reluctant to show potential customers the entire premises on which animals are being bred and kept. Breeders who don't ask a lot of questions of potential buyers. No guarantees-responsible breeders make a commitment to take back the pet at anytime during the animal's life, no matter the reason. Because puppy mills and backyard breeders choose profit over animal welfare, their animals typically do not receive proper veterinary care. Animals may seem healthy at first but later show issues like congenital eye and hip defects, parasites or even the deadly Parvovirus. Taking homes away When puppy mills and backyard breeders flood the market with animals, they reduce homes available for animals from reputable establishments, shelters and rescue groups. Every year, more than 150,000 cats and dogs enter shelters in Washington State-6 to 8 million animals enter shelters nationwide. Sadly, only about 15 percent of people with pets in the U.S. adopted them from a shelter or rescue group, leaving so many deserving pets left behind. Help stop the suffering by taking these steps: Be a responsible, informed consumer-if you do buy from a breeder, go to a reputable one who: Will show you where the dogs spend their time and introduces you to the puppy's parents. Explains the puppy's medical history, including vaccines, and gives you their veterinarian's contact info. Doesn't have puppies available year-round, yet may keep a waiting list for interested people. Asks about your family's lifestyle, why you want a dog, and your care and training plans for the puppy. Doesn't use pressure sales tactics. |
10-01-2012, 10:48 PM | #11 |
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| If you see these signs in your potential dog breeder ... RUN! In my search for a new fur baby I have learned MUCH... If you see these signs in your potential dog breeder ... RUN! You think you've finally found a breeder for that puppy you want to share your life, but you want to be sure he's a responsible breeder, so your new family member can have the best possible start in life. How will you know if he is a responsible breeder? What are the signs to watch out for? When should you take your money and run ... in the opposite direction? He won't let you see the puppy's parents (the father may not always on site, this is normal). He won't let you see his breeding facility. He can not produce registration papers for the parents. He does not have the registration papers for the current litter of puppies. He has no pedigrees on either of the parents. None of his puppies come with guarantees. None of his dogs have been checked for genetic diseases. None of his dogs have been OFA'd. None of his dogs have been CERFed. He does not want to know if anything has happened to your dog (that came from him). He breeds a lot of unrecognized breeds - Cock-a-poos, Spoodles, Labradoodles and the like. No veterinary health checks of the puppies from birth. No mandatory spaying/neutering of pet quality animals. No mandatory vaccinations (at least basic ones), no de-worming. Breeding solely for "pet quality" means breeding for money - not for the betterment of anything. Does not breed to better the overall conformation or working style of the breed. Does not know the history of his chosen breed. His dogs appear to be in ill-health. He always has puppies for sale, sometimes two or three litters at a time. Does not have veterinary records for at least the mother on hand. His dogs have no titles, either showing, working, or sports, whatever the animals are being bred for. He won't give references from owners of pups from previous litters. He doesn't ask any questions about the environment you offer the pup, just wants to see the cheque (and prefers cash). The puppies are ready to go before they should be (under eight weeks of age). Advertises "rare" colors, sizes, etc (such as "rare" white Dobermans, or Great Danes, "king-sized" German Shepherds, etc.) Advertises or sells their pups for greatly reduced prices Sells to pet stores, puppy brokers, wholesalers, etc. Breeds before the age of two. It is a long list, but considering the health and welfare of your newest family member, it is always better to be picky about who you buy from, than to end up with possibly insurmountable health problems a year or two later. |
10-02-2012, 06:39 AM | #12 |
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| BUYER BEWARE! Red Flags to Watch when Evaluating a Breeder Evaluating a Breeder and a breeders website RED FLAGS To be cautious of: NEVER buy a puppy from a breeder who does not state their name clearly on their website. This is on the same principle as a breeder that frequently changes kennel names. A breeder is known by their reputation, and without that breeder's name there is nothing to check their reputation with. ~Some breeders states they are concerned about personal privacy on the Internet, but the breeder should at least place their full first & last name on their websites and in their initial correspondences. There is no harm in your name being online or on your personal website, your name is available through any phone book or Google search anyway. If they do not clearly identify who they are from their website, then who are they hiding from or what are they trying to hide? If the breeder is not proud of the quality of their own dogs and reputation enough to put their name on it, then you should look elsewhere for the adoption of your new best friend. When I was researching this particular website/breeder it was painstakingly hard to find out the breeders identity. IN no way shape or form is a reputable breeder NOT going to PROUDLYdisplay their name RED FLAG! Yorkie Love Affair , Maria Calverley BUYERS BEWARE and BE cautious do your research I cannot stress that enough! On the breeder you are looking to purchase a dog from. OTHER RED FLAGS If a dog is outrageously priced, ask yourself why?The yorkie I was looking at was $5000 I thought GOSH this must mean that it is a good quality yorkie... wrong! Couldn't be further from the truth. Is the animal a perfect specimen of the breed standard? Or is the breeder just looking to make a quick buck. The average price for a quality purebred Yorkie for pet is around $700-$1,200. NEVER buy a dog from a breeder who is using the term teacup, rare, miniature, teaspoon, micro, toy or from someone who is 'offering' a "size guarantee" for animals under 6 months old. NEVER buy a dog from a breeder who will only give you a guarantee for a few days, weeks, or months. Any reputable breeder is willing to stand behind their dog for as long as necessary (YEARS!). BE WARY of buying from a breeder promoting these UNREPUTABLE REGISTRATION SERVICES Commonly used by Puppy Mills and Backyard Breeders National Kennel Club Universal Kennel Club International American Canine Association American Pet Registry, inc. Dog Registry of America American Purebred Association World Wide Kennel Club Federation of International Canines If someone is using these other registries, normally their is a reason they are no longer with AKC. Many shady breeders are going away from AKC because AKC now requires DNA on all male dogs that produce more then 3 litters in a year or 7 or more litters in a lifetime. Also, AKC requires all records be kept accurate and up to date and that all DNA matches correctly. Those breeders who do not have DNA match correctly or their paperwork or facilities are inadequate, are suspended of AKC privileges. Some breeders also are leaving AKC because of an increase in prices, which would also lead you to wonder what else are they skimping on? These no-name registries say it themselves as to why they are unreputable, and are quoted as saying "Tired of registration & documentation hassles? ... Lost or never had papers? ... Breed not recognized? ... We take the red tape out of registration... NO DNA requirements ..."What does this mean to you? it means that these registries will put papers on any dog, purebred or not. Many of these registries will give you a certificate saying that the dog 'looks' like a Yorkie. This is NO guarantee that it really is a Yorkie, And worth nothing more than a piece of paper. NEVER buy from a breeder who has multiple registrations on their pet. This does NOT make a dog more valuable, more special, etc. but instead should send up red flags such as "why does the breeder feel they need to register the dog with more then one registry?" The quickest rule of registries to help remember what is and is not reputable. Some buyers say that papers aren't important, or "why is registration important on a pet?" Even if a puppy is being bought as a pet, if your going to pay for a puppy from a breeder, it should be registered with a reputable registry. Why? Because being registered with a reputable, registry (AKC) ensures that the dog is from a line of dogs that represent the breed accurately. Granted, there is the possibility of good and bad in both, and a line is only as honest as it's breeder, it does however present you a security that you are getting what you are paying for. Many registries like APRI will accept ANY dog, with the ease of doing it all online, with minimal questions, fees, etc., with no proof that the dog is actually even close to breed standard. Buying a dog APRI lineage is the same as a gamble with no guarantee that the dog will even mature to look like or act like a Yorkie or true paternity.AKC on the other hand, does do kennel inspections, DNA testing, and required breeders to follow a strict code of record keeping and ethics. Many breeders who have not been able to meet AKC's strict guidelines, loose their privileges and move on to the lower cost, no fuss registries.If they're cost-cutting on the price of the registration, what else are they cost-cutting on pertaining to the animals' well being (vaccinations, health care, etc.)this is why it is so important to do your research and check all of the other signs to determine if the breeder you are talking to is the right breeder for you. Just remember, it's a buyer beware world and everyone on the Internet is not as honest as they may appear to be. Buying a puppy is a lifetime commitment and not something to do on impulse. Do your research. |
10-02-2012, 08:34 AM | #13 |
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| I need to go back abd check but I'm pretty sure this is the "chick" my Scoobers was microchip registered to when dumped outside a pound in bag with another designer breed pup also registered to her. The other pup died. Both were filthy, skeleton thin, infested and tied. Yep its her she's evil, she has multiple criminal issues eveb tax issues total scum.
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10-02-2012, 08:52 AM | #14 |
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| Ginger turk | Ripoff Report | Complaints Reviews Scams Lawsuits Frauds Reported http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...ZSBzJMRT0Eg9bQ
__________________ Shan & 8 kids now! Last edited by concretegurl; 10-02-2012 at 08:54 AM. |
10-02-2012, 09:28 AM | #15 |
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| Ginger started as Jina of Posh Fairy tail's broker. A boutique that ecolved into a mass puppy seller to pup importer. They dabbled in designer breeds here in CA but it didn't pay well enough apparently so she started importing Korean pups with Jung. I was told during her designer pup phase she was getting pups from a now shut down pup mill broker from so cal and mexico. Ginger has some amazing tech buddies who delete a lot if negative internet information on her one day its there next its gone. In all fairness she's smart...she's not a direct broker anymore now she worked between a foreign broker and a web site broker keeping herself in the shadows. When Scoobers was chipped to her the homeagain operator said Ginger currently had about 300 dogs registered to her! Scoobers alternate coontact on his chip was a Sylvia something and the phone number was to Mexico, but the Bay Area pound where Ia got Scoobers said they see about 100 dogs registered to that number a year getting abandoned at pounds. They can't do anything unless they catch the people dumping them and the chip reg proves nothing...these people just say a buyer got the pup and necer changed the chip and dumped the pup. Sage the adoption cordonator trued to pursue the issue but their hands were tied. These pups are still comming in registered with different brokers they're always ovet 3 months so they guess if they dobt sell young they get dumped, most dumped are of undesirable characteristics basically they're all bigger. I put Scoobers in my name but never forgot hers. Scoobers was terrified of people outside grass brushes he was a mess. Covered in fecies he was listed as black yorkie x but he's a a silver and chocolate schnorkie. He has massive ear infections and had feces packed into his ears, the vet said he had either veen in a bottom cage with it dripping down onto him and into his ears for months or someone had shoved it down in them. He still has scar tissue visible from the infected sores in his ears. His paws were cut raw and infected from the wire cage flooring. His fear aggression and general unsocial behavior almost made him ineligible for adoption. Scoobers was just over 5 months old when I got him. I was told at the tine he is a classic pup mill puppy in signs and symptoms. So glad I knew Sage from chin farm fostering and rescue and she helped push our Scoobers through the adoption evaluation, he really is the best dog ever. Milo and him are the idea example of a boy and his dog. Scoobers is 4 now and completely rehabilitated.
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