This isn't about memory this is about being a professional responsible breeder. I'm not a breeder, but if I were, I would keep a list of people's names to whom I had sold Yorkies, and I would list their puppy’s mom and dad’s name. I would also keep in contact with them and see how the dogs were doing over the years, so that I could better understand my line. I would not sell breeding dogs to others for years and years and years until I knew my lines backwards and forwards, and every which way. If you don't keep any lists and rely on your memory, which you admit is poor, how do you even know if you have trouble with certain lines? Maybe you don’t want to know.

The people respomding on here are pet owners not breeders

then I guess you better DNA your champion and his mother and Father that came from my house. It's to bad the puppy I was getting back got parvo at your house.

Natalie, is it true, as someone stated, that you are no longer allowed to be a "Featured Breeder" at Yorkietalk?

No it is not this is my choice. and it is not very hard to be a featured breeder on yorkie talk all you have to do is Pay your 75.00 fee

wow, just incredible wow....such typical statements...blame the new owner...omg, I'm sorry but I honestly think you need to re-evaluate everything about your business.

that is the puppy you owed me from the female I bred that you never paid for that came from my so called free for all. You asked me to have Joann trust you and you said you would either pay her 2 puppies back or cash when you sold them and she never received a dime for her. So actually how good is your word to people. It is sad that you had to rip a little older lady off to make your champion male from my male who came from my free for all.

Thanks for telling me this.

Is this cut/pasted from Tanisha Bretons website or from the Cornell site? Please include proper documentation when posting quotes, I couldn't find it. Do you have the link, perhaps It is I who is searching wrong? Thanks

I honestly did not expect her to remember me just by my name. I have a super common name. However, she didn't ask for my address or any other information besides who my dogs parents were. That's it.

Then she told me it couldn't have been too bad because it took this long to show up.

I also have every single e-mail and not once... not one single time ...did Natalie ever say she was sorry for my loss...NOT ONCE. I have every e-mail and I just read through them again to see if by chance I missed it. Nope, never happened.

Only the suggestion that another puppy would help with the loss after I declined paying for another puppy from her because it's too painful to think of getting another pet right now. I was kind, I thanked her for the offer(of selling me a puppy for $800). I e-mailed her the day my baby died to let her know it was AAI, to say I was in shock would be an understatement.

Then I talked to my husband about posting a review. He encouraged me to. The next e-mail I received from her was the threat to call a lawyer. Actually,after everything I've found out about her, I should have been the one making that threat. I'm not. I don't want anything from her. I just wanted to warn people and not have this happen to anyone else out there.

Makemepretty...thank you for sharing your experience, sadly it is not uncommon...I've actually heard many stories like yours before.

Natalie, I am glad you also voiced your rebuttal. IMHO it is weak, I know of many breeders here on YT who would not be in the same situation as you. It seems to me that you are overbreeding, carelessly breeding unethically breeding.

I am not an expert on breeding but I am well versed on unethical breeding...your website, your OWN statements...the experience that makemepretty shared throw up many, many, many, redflags and let me add again that many of the breeders here squeed when they read your responses. If nothing else, your lack of documenting (I don't know breeders terminology) and record keeping is pisspoor.

I wonder, is it really worth it? To be cast in this light?, could you accept this as a wakeup call that perhaps you need to scale down, start over, do things right or close shop? Perhaps you need to take an inner inventory of yourself...perhaps you don't care...perhaps? I hope you do whats best, and its not too late to privately and sincerely apologize to this poor girl who suffered a tragedy...isn't that really what its about? Have you lost your human compassion for your pups and customers?

Lynzy, thank you for your kind words.

I do hope Natalie will either rethink her breeding or discontinue it. I saw she had posted about her dams sizes but if you look at this link from just a couple years ago, it said she had no problem with breeding 3 & 4 lbs females:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ng-home-4.html

Unfortunately, according to what past puppy buyers are finding out, there are some major problems popping up from her practices.

This all makes me sick how mean people can be ...
 

You are all picking on a woman who is honest and runs a very reputable Yorkie business. I have known Natalie for years and have 5 of her Yorkies. They are beautiful dogs in great health. Why don't you all go pick on someone else and leave the poor woman alone !!!!!!! You should all be ashamed of yourselves !!!!

Exactly, she is running a business. A business has the biggest interest in turning a profit. An excellent breeder would be more interested in bettering the breed, not turning a profit, and helping to stop the yorkie breed from going more and more away from the stated standard. You have no idea how many times I get people that say they think yorkies are supposed to be 3 lbs full grown, with black and tan fluffy (cotton) hair, short muzzles and tiny ears. All that is contrary of the standard.

No one is saying her yorkies are show quality. Pet quality was fine with me, however her yorkies are having a shorter life span and genetic problems and cottony coats and dying as puppies. I am not the only one who has had this problem. Search online, search through yorkietalk, other members have also had genetic problems with her line.

I'm not naming names but one person bought $16,000 worth of dogs from her and the the majority of them had to be fixed because of their genetic problems. I paid $4,500, I know of more people who paid her thousands of dollars and did not get what they were promised. She's not in this to make great quality pets and find the perfect home for them. She doesn't check up on who buys her puppies, she gets their money and good luck to them. Did you not read through all 5 pages? Can you not see the couple of lies she's already told?

I'm glad you have a happy healthy dog/puppy from her. Count your blessings. I'm really happy for you because I don't want you to have to go through what I did. I'm not calling her names, I'm not saying she's a mean person. I'm saying exactly what happened when I purchased from her, as are others. These are not opinions. No one is picking on her. She sold dogs and puppies with health problems that will last years if they live that long. Period.

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This is an open forum, you are in a section where reviewing breeders is permitted. Please read the rules.

btw...Welcome to YT you will find tons of information here, stick around there is something for everyone to learn here!

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Under the Canadian Kennel Club rules, we are required to keep records of which male bred which female and the resulting puppies, which ones I kept, which ones I sold. The records must include who puppies or adults were sold to including dates, names addresses, contact information.
I don't know if the AKC also requires certain minimum record keeping from breeders in the US selling AKC registered dogs. For those of you not very happy with any breeder you have purchased from and are doubtful about the record keeping of the breeder, you could write a letter contacting the AKC. I am sure the more letters they recieve the more likely they will review the breeder. As I understand it, AKC also has the right to inspect the premises and dogs etc and the breeder must pass inspection to continue breeding and selling via AKC.
Just a thought anyway.

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Please How is talking about breeding ubdersized dogs or a buyer sharing their experience picking on someone?

Obviously if several people over the years have reported getting sick or their dogs died prematurely it becomes suspect.

It's refreshing to hear you have 5 healthy dogs from her, would love see pictures of them and know their names...please stick around and share, I'm sure more than just myself are interested.


Edit: notice the title of this section is fir breeder reviews as well...

IMO why would someone buy a pup online from someone who has 29 dams and 14 sires?? Site unseen? I would need to know the person. If I was in the Yorkie World and traveled and showed. If I met someone at a show knew there rep then maybe? But buying for a pet I would need to go into the house. After seeing all those dogs no way. No time to properly take care of them ..unless you have alot of ppl working for you. Then it's a big business what I wouldn't support. JMO

The thing I'm worried about is that lots of people buy her dogs for breeding. I can't tell you how many times I've looked at a site and recognized her "look" only to fine their stud has come from Natalie. That worries me because I know for a fact that her dogs have issues and now they are being bred by many people. One site said that their little stud(purchased from her) had died. I e-mailed them and let them know just a little bit about me and asked them how old their stud was when he passed away and told her my concerns. He only lived to be a year old.

These short lifespans disturb me.

We have a tiny little girl, our Kyra, who was not bought because she was tiny her parents being 4 and 6 lbs we thought she would be around 5lbs. But I personally worry about her constantly because I fear she won't get to be with us for the 14 or 15 years we are hoping for. I cannot imagine purposely looking for one who will be 2lbs after learning all I have here on YT and to breed for tinies after knowing all the health issues people have with them to me is just sad. We all as pet owners grieve so much when one of ours passes and especially when they pass at a young age. Breeders like this claim that all their dogs live in their homes and sleep with them (that is a quote from a thread a few years ago by Natalie). Come on we are not that nieve you do not sleep with 30 dogs or have them all living in your home. And then to breed dogs that you know have hereditary issues is even more wrong.

south dakota needs to have stiffer animal welfare laws. This Breeder has been reported many times.. she likes to "send her dogs" to her friends to keep Numbers down.. I was told by one friend that she had over 60 dogs in her home at one point just one person and over 60 dogs.. how can you take proper care of that many dogs Natalie?

My newest message
 

My newest message from Natalie:

"I have turned all your threats and emails over to my States attorney and he will be filing a suit against you for harrasment.
Natalie "


For the record, I have not e-mailed Natalie since I let her know what happened. She's not happy that I left her negative reviews on line, which she responded to with incorrect information and tried to have deleted. Please keep this in mind people when you consider buying one of her puppies!!!!

I forgot to add that this was a message sent to me through Yorkie Talk, is there a way to block her from that? I have nothing to say to her. I did see the amount of puppies she's cranking out on her site and the "adults" she's retiring because they've turned 5 and are no longer breeding potential, makes me ill.


On a HAPPY note, in December I got a lovely maltese female. I couldn't do a yorkie again because it would be too hard. I already have a 7 year old yorkie female and I had heard yorkies and maltese get along well. My little girl is now 6 almost 7 months old and all potty trained and cuddly. She's not a replacement but an addition to the dogs I love and have loved in my life.

I know this is a yorkie forum, that's why I didn't post her pictures earlier but I can't tell you how sweet she is!

If any member sends you a PM you think it inappropriate, forward it to admin, members have been banned for this. You can put people on the ignore list, but I'm not sure if you will still get PM's from them. YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community You can find out for sure if you PM admin. I'm so glad you have found a new dog, yes, Yorkies and Maltese often get along really well, and don't worry, you can post new pictures of your new baby, you have done buyers a great service by doing a review, hopefully others will be spared the pain, and other byb's won't buy the line you can breed tinies.

I am learning so much from YT, but I find that it makes me cry much more than I would like. I can't imagine going through all of that to get a puppy and then the puppy have such a short life. My Huey is my heart and I pray that he is with me for a long time. After reading all you have been through, I am thrilled to see your beautiful maltese and hope you have many happy, healthy years together. I know I am not the only person who loves photos of all pups, not just yorkies. Now I'm gonna finish my cry for the lost pups and go to bed so I can go back to work tonight.

F.Y.I. Natalie the States Attorney (Attorney General)will not take your case/complaint... or even listen to it....trust me on this...this I know for certain 100% absolutely know.

As a member of YT you should be respectful of others here. The fact that you are a breeder and were reviewed (poorly) doesn't give you a right to harass others, that is a violation of YT rules, which can and will take this complaint seriously.