Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 4011280)

I love that dogs can free roam, at times, but I also use kennels for my dogs at home during certain times.
I see it as a balance.
Having a pup mill rescue I saw the negative of "caged life" Scoobets was only 5 months when I got him it still had a life long effect.

Another dog we had had never been kenneled I saw yhe issues firat hand of that too.

To me kenneling is useful for training , safety and creating their own den area.

Although Princess runs to her kennel everytime she's naughty and gives me the I touched base look!


WHOOPS! How did I miss the word except there?

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4011083)

A lady posted the following on Natalies Facebook page. It's how much she loved her puppies from her but READ what she wrote:
. For those of you who haven't visit Natalie, well let me tell you, all of her dogs, except for the babies, the new moms and the ones in heat, they are free to run around the house;

I think I am understanding that she does NOT let the ones in heat run free around the house with the others. Female dogs are called "bitches" for a reason!!! You get a herd of them running together, and you had better be watching closely because someone WILL cop an attitude, (not "if" but "when"), there will be sassy talk back and forth between a couple of them, and the next thing you know, you have a bar room brawl, and whoever is getting the worse of it, the one that goes down first, THAT poor unfortunate soul will be jumped by all the others and she will be seriously injured or killed. I allow my girls to all play outside, but I can tell you, I know who starts trouble and these girls must be kept separate or they will do much harm...and God forbid if one is about to come into season........might as well set up chairs and sell tickets, because you WILL be having horrendous dog fight......If you DARE to run all these dogs together, you can not take your eyes off them for a second, and you would do well to keep them in small manageable groups that get along. Mine are broken up into groups of 3 and 4.....and Alphas must be with someone that accepts her alpha status and is no challenge or Alpha must be playing alone, with me or my son. I usually work the Alphas in the playground...that expends that pent up anxiety and helps keep them on a more even keel. Dont know if that is right or wrong, but it has served me well. But, I was astonished to hear about breeders that let everyone run together, males, females, in heat or not, then all the babies are supposedly DNA'd.....I always wonder about the male and female that tie, and then before they break apart, each wants to go their own way...someone is going to be injured! If for NO other reason, I have spent toooooo much for my dogs to allow such unnecessary injuries. Like most breeders, I put my pair together, and after they tie, I pick them up and hold them, and we relax, and sit and rock, calmly, making this as much a pleasant experience as possible...I want those little embryos to be happy from the very beginning!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4011303)

It's still hard for me to close the door on Joey's, but I wish I had been stricter when he was young. We have an open door policy, but that doesn’t help when I need to keep him confined.


Lol, Princess sounds so adorable!

Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 4011313)

She thinks she is...I get the schnauzer glare from the kennel after she eats my house shoes...flip flops. Its always the left she too!

She's earned the nick name Monster trust me, but she is adorable.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4008932)

I do not believe in this “featured breeders” advertising that YorkieTalk has. I think it gives Yorkietalk members a false sense of confidence in these breeders....

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4008932)

Sorry to make it sound so black and white, but ... I do not believe in this “featured breeders” advertising that YorkieTalk has. I think it gives Yorkietalk members a false sense of confidence in these breeders, and why would a person have to reach THAT many people? How many dogs are they breeding? Bottom line is I don't think dog breeding should be a "business". I think it's impossible to do what's right for the dogs if it's profit motivated. Too many people refuse to take a dog out of their breeding program that they suspect has a genetic defect and I believe this goes back to the "business" element. This is just my opinion and I realize not everyone shares it.

Originally Posted by magicgenie (Post 4011334)

Gee, there are only 2 featured breeders on YT. I'm Susan Dodge and the other is Deb Sillers. As far as I know we're both very hard working and reputable. Deb has been at this longer than I have and has many champions to her credit, several of which appear regularly in the "Showing" forum. Natalie was a featured breeder until she failed to satisfactorily resolve some complaints. We do go out on the proverbial limb asking for this featured breeder status since we surely will be publicly slammed if we don't live up to the expectations. I only had one litter this year, and one of the three puppies from that litter was purchased by a wonderful person who found me on YT. She was able to check me out by making the acquaintance of other YT members who have my dogs. We were able to work out the geographical distance since I don't sell sight unseen to people I've never met. The other two puppies in the litter went to word-of-mouth referrals. I love my YT advertising as the inquiries I get from it are top notch.:)

Originally Posted by ndyorkiemom (Post 4011715)

I have so much information on Natalie that it is almost scary not only from past puppy buyers but also from personal experience with her. And yes I have two of her dogs here in my home that I love dearly but, I'm one of the lucky ones. Mine are five and four years old and thank heaven healthy but they are dogs she didn't want because they were bigger, one is 6 1/2 pounds and the other is five. I can tell you first hand that the review that was taken from Natalies website was a joke. I've been to her home many times and have seen things with my own eyes. I have also got pictures of a little male that was purchased from Natalie for a healthy price who before he was even five months old was dead. I know this because the young lady who owned him brought him to me to try and help her care for him because Natalie couldn't be bothered. If you'd like to know more or have questions please feel free to send me a private message.
One thing I will say is that anyone who has one of Natalies dogs should seriously concider having a DNA test done to be sure of the parentage.

Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4012788)

A few years ago when I first joined YT I got a lot of negative comments over posting a question about how Natalie could be allowed to be a feature breeder here and still breed tiny little girls. I am so thankful that people here were able to see through her and stop supporting this practice.

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4014134)

Just received an e-mail from Natalie saying she's contacting her attorney about the slander I put on the internet about her. I e-mailed back that it's only slander if it's NOT true. EVERY SINGLE WORD I typed in my complaint about dealing with her is 100% accurate.

I will also say she never expressed her condolences or apologized when I told her my little girl passed away and had AAI (she never even mentioned she'd had a puppy that had this before, I found that information searching online). My little girl only lived as long as she did by the grace of God and my care for her.

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4014134)

Just received an e-mail from Natalie saying she's contacting her attorney about the slander I put on the internet about her. I e-mailed back that it's only slander if it's NOT true. EVERY SINGLE WORD I typed in my complaint about dealing with her is 100% accurate.

I will also say she never expressed her condolences or apologized when I told her my little girl passed away and had AAI (she never even mentioned she'd had a puppy that had this before, I found that information searching online). My little girl only lived as long as she did by the grace of God and my care for her.

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4014248)

Yeah, well first she threatened me then the next e-mail was quoting the bible.

She said that I never paid $6,000 for my dog. Nope, I didn't. I never said I did. I paid $4,500 for her, the $6,000 dog she wanted to sell me DIED before she was old enough to be shipped.

UGH. I told her to leave me alone. I can't even think about my baby without my heart aching so bad. Natalie makes me feel sick to my stomach....and angry.

My husband and I got teary seeing the commercial for Frankenweenie because the dog dies!

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4014134)

Just received an e-mail from Natalie saying she's contacting her attorney about the slander I put on the internet about her. I e-mailed back that it's only slander if it's NOT true. EVERY SINGLE WORD I typed in my complaint about dealing with her is 100% accurate.

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4006915)

I have thought long and hard about posting this review. The review I should have posted 5 years ago actually. Sometimes it's the safer route to keep quiet and not say anything bad but who does that help?

I had some concerns when I first purchased my baby but a long time member with loads of posts PM'd me many times and basically persuaded me not to say anything bad about this breeder because she was a nice person. My experience wasn't the norm I was told and there must have been some misunderstandings. That member I see has since been banned.

Let me start with how I wish YT members would share their breeders. Maybe now they do but back then it was like pulling teeth to try to find out where they purchased their puppies from. Who doesn't want a cute small yorkie? But we all want healthy cute small yorkies....that's the hard part. I foolishly thought that a long time breeder that other members had purchased from, even if it cost an arm and a leg would save me much heartbreak and money in the long run. Better to pay now than later!

I saw a cute ad for one of Natalie's puppies. I e-mailed her and was told she was still available. I called about mailing out a deposit and was told the price had raised $500 more than she told me because she just couldn't go as low because of how much her puppies were in demand. This was $4,000 now $4,500. Which I will tell you is a couple months of our income but I wanted a yorkie for over a decade and saved and saved. I mailed out my money. Then a few weeks go by and I'm called to be told my puppy is getting larger than she expected so she's going to give me a more expensive puppy instead and sends me pictures(this one was on her site for $6,000). I'm thrilled. A couple days go by and she calls and tells me that she can't sell me that one because someone will pay MORE for it and that the original puppy is now slowing down in growth. I express my hurt saying that's not fair at all. She says she will still sell me the more expensive prettier smaller one. More time goes by(she keeps the puppies till they're a couple months old because of their size) and I'm then told my puppy had passed away, she had a bad bunch of vaccinations. BUT she has another one that is just what I'm looking for. That's the one I ended up with. Lots of flags but she had my money and I've waited so long, I'd been scammed before and honestly, my heart couldn't take the let down anymore. If ANYONE says she's not in it for the money, read the above and then tell me different.

Fast forward to getting my puppy and I'm told she had a problem with her tail but it's clearing up but it's bald and the hair will grow back. She is cute as a button. Then we all catch ringworm. She has a small cough but that goes away.

She was the love of my life(besides kids and hubby) but she did have some small problems. She had a cottony coat, constant bad breath, and now I find out AAI, which is why she only lived to 5. I did let Natalie know and her reply was that it must have not been that bad since she lived that long. She did offer me a puppy for $800. I can't risk that heartbreak again. AAI is genetic.

I have not seen any negative reviews but comb through the boards and you will find enough references to many many health problems with her dogs, references to being told they should pay more, dogs getting way bigger than she said. She almost went out of business once. Don't let anyone tell you it's not a money making venture. Check the amount of litters(although I do see her prices are about half now). My baby was 3lbs 10 oz. That's not too far off the norm of 4-7 lbs. She was a very sweet baby.

Yes, I am to fault too. I saw red flags, I paid too much. Believe me, I did not come out scott free in this. My heart is broken. I'm a genuinely nice person so I'm really easy to take advantage of and I'm gullible. I'd been scammed before. I believe what people tell me. Remember though, I have no reason to lie or exaggerate. I've been a member since 2006 and I stopped checking the board because I didn't want to end up with a 4 or 6 pack like many others. I am not a breeder, just a pet owner. I had a chihuahua who lived to be 12, a Pekingnese who lived to be 12, a long haired chihuahua who lived to be 15. I'm a long term pet owner/lover.

I'm not saying that she is not a nice person or doesn't love her dogs. Just that you need to think really hard(harder than I did) if you are thinking about purchasing from her.

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4014775)

Google doesn't make you a vet Natalie. It can happen at age any due to the genetic condition.
Dog Orthopedic: The Spine Center at VOSM

Which is why you immediately asked me who her parents were, because you've had this problem before. She also had a malformed spine where her vertebrae were too close together. She had steroids for that problem but when her condition worsened they diagnosed the AAI. She had more than one problem with her formation of spine and neck due to your bad breeding. X-rays don't lie. You do. She had just turned 5 and was babied all those years but it couldn't heal her bad breeding genetics.

STOP harassing me Natalie.

*****I hope anyone who ever considered getting a puppy from her will really read this thread through, please feel free to PM me with any further questions regarding Natalie or her harassing e-mails or details. Read not only what I have written but what others have also and what else is online about her. Does anyone think that many people are lying? For what purpose? One person is making money off selling sick puppies, other people are paying for those sick puppies and dogs to go to the vet. Who is the one not being honest...it's black and white.

Originally Posted by makemepretty (Post 4014775)

Google doesn't make you a vet Natalie. It can happen at age any due to the genetic condition.
Dog Orthopedic: The Spine Center at VOSM

Which is why you immediately asked me who her parents were, because you've had this problem before. She also had a malformed spine where her vertebrae were too close together. She had steroids for that problem but when her condition worsened they diagnosed the AAI. She had more than one problem with her formation of spine and neck due to your bad breeding. X-rays don't lie. You do. She had just turned 5 and was babied all those years but it couldn't heal her bad breeding genetics.

STOP harassing me Natalie.

*****I hope anyone who ever considered getting a puppy from her will really read this thread through, please feel free to PM me with any further questions regarding Natalie or her harassing e-mails or details. Read not only what I have written but what others have also and what else is online about her. Does anyone think that many people are lying? For what purpose? One person is making money off selling sick puppies, other people are paying for those sick puppies and dogs to go to the vet. Who is the one not being honest...it's black and white.

Originally Posted by nlappegard (Post 4014833)

I do not HARASS PEOPLE. I research the matter and if this was the case why was I not notified when she was a puppy. I am not God and I can not read minds. I am very easy to get along with. If you had notified me I would have gladly let you keep your puppy and sent you a replacement. free of charge. I am only human. As far as knowing your puppy and asking you who her parents were how am I suppose to know what everyone whom has purchased a puppy names them after they leave. As I told her in her first email she had sent me after 5yrs I was extremely sorry for her loss of her dog which she does not mention.
Natalie Nelson