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Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to introduce myself and my new baby, Sabrina. I bought her from Hylan Acres Ann Wylie. Sabrina is a retired momma and she has wrapped her little paws around me and my husband's heart. I guess you could say I have Yorkie Fever. I visited with Ann in her home for a long time and you can tell she loves what she is doing. I can't say enough good things about her. I talked with several breeders before I made my decision. One breeder wanted to meet me in a parking lot in Dallas, but needless to say I ran the other way. It is true buy your breeder first, then your puppy. When I have pics I will post. Sorry this is so lengthy but, I just want others that are looking for a good breeder, Ann might can help you. :aimeeyork

Hi and welcome to YT. That's sweet you're so in love with her, yorkies do that to us♥

It's interesting you've brought up this breeder and are referring her to others now, as she was recently mentioned in another thread. It is a big responsibility to recommend a breeder. I might be afraid another person's experience wouldn't be the same as mine, and perhaps they could get a sick puppy or dog.

Hylan Acres ~ Excellent Breeder
 

I am so happy you went to Anne for your baby!! We just got Teddi from Anne Wylie on December 1st and he is just wonderful! Healthy, happy and beautiful! Of course Teddi was a baby (4 mos. when we picked him up in Dallas). He was sired by Ch. Hylan Acres Ridin' the Storm who is the cutest little guy. :p

We were unable to visit with Anne in her home due to time constraints on our part, however we did have lengthy phone conversations, were sent photos and corresponded by email at every opportunity (including when she was busy at a show with Merit!). You really can tell that she loves her kids and the Yorkshire Terrier breed!

We also spoke with many breeders before choosing Anne and one here in Florida wanted to meet us somewhere and the others were a little too pushy about the 'sale' - not the welfare of the puppy. :(

We are very pleased to have been able to find such a loving, reputable breeder willing to share a member of her family with us.

Congrats on the new addition!! Cannot wait to see pictures!! :D

You can be assured visiting with Ann and her babies, she does love them. Your Teddi is so precious. I will be posting pics of Sabrina soon. We decided on an older dog for now, but if we decide on another, we will get a puppy from
Ann.


Dawn & Sabrina :aimeeyork

Congrat's on your new boy!!

And yes..Ch Hylan Acres Ridin the Storm is indeed a little cutie. However, isn't he the male that produced a litter of Parti and parti carrier pups?

As far as I know this has been a nasty rumor for some time. Since I have no intention of breeding nor showing Teddi it is not really a concern. Personally I have had a wonderful experience with Anne and would never continue perpetuation of ANY rumor. If Teddi were intended for show/breeding I would have asked for the correct testing to insure that the gene not be passed to offspring however I would ask this of any breeder. How sad that this horrible, unproven smurch is continually brought up. If it is proven fact, so be it. From what I have read - it happens. Most of the time through no fault of the breeder.


"Hi and welcome to YT. That's sweet you're so in love with her, yorkies do that to us♥

It's interesting you've brought up this breeder and are referring her to others now, as she was recently mentioned in another thread. It is a big responsibility to recommend a breeder. I might be afraid another person's experience wouldn't be the same as mine, and perhaps they could get a sick puppy or dog. "


Yes it is an HUGE responsibility to recommend a breeder. I for one stand behind my recommendation.

:thumbup: Looking forward to those pics! :)

I would never want to take away from anyone's joy in obtaining their new pup, I totally agree with you.

Recommending a breeder on one's own personal experience in buying a puppy, is a big responsibility. Something I wouldn't recommend anyone doing. I think most breeders love their dogs.

To the OP congratulations on your new pup.

Hylan Acres, Anne Wylie
 

Congratuations on your new puppies but since this is breeder review section I have a question about this breeder.
I was also wondering why a YTCA member can still continuously breed a known parti carrier and sell pups and remain a member?
Ch Hylan Acres Ridin the Storm was proven thru DNA to be the sire of a litter of puppies Born 2/25/07 3 of them were Parti colored.
The dogs from that litter are:
Crownridge Talk of The Town TR65165502
Hylan Diva's Harlequin Romance TR65165503
Hylan Diva's Mardi Gras Party Girl TR65165504
Hylan Diva's Dannilynn Has It All TR65165505
Hylan Diva's Remington Blue Steel TR65165506

Link to the pedigree.

Are YTCA members allowed to breed Parti's or carriers.
Isn't this against what the YTCA stands for? Anne Wylie is still purposely breeding a known parti carrier, Yet she remains a member and still passes this gene on each time she breeds Ridin the Storm and apparently is not revealing it to customers.
Is that not against YTCA ethics to not reveal that the dog is a known carrier to people purchasing your pups?
If she is showing any of his puppies isn't that the same as some of the parti breeders showing their carriers?

dumb question here ...but is the male disqualified from showing if he produces different "color" offspring? does that mean his lines are not pure?
i know there are parti color yorkies and as beautiful as they are i know they are not recongized in showing and akc registration... but parti yorkies are still purebred, right? are they considered a pigment error?

thanks for any clarification...i do not own are parti's but do love how they look as well as the yorkie standard

Thanks for the posting this........And not in defense of of Hylan Acres, but unless we have the documentation where this DNA is identified......what we have here is heresay.

Yes, if this is being done by a YTCA member it does go against what the YTCA stands for.

In addition, if I may ask, the dam of said puppies.

I dont know why the link didnt work to the pedigree

Yorkie Divas.com--AKC Registered Yorkshire Terriers-Traditional & Parti Yorkies

Dam was:
Hylan's Darling Diva
TR405680/08 11-06
Blue & Gold

She is out of CH.Durrer's Mighty Obsession

Crownridge Talk of The Town TR65165502.....................AKC DNA #V467770
Hylan Diva's Harlequin Romance TR65165503.................AKC DNA #V467776
Hylan Diva's Remington Blue Steel TR65165506..............AKC DNA #V467772

I thought Parti-Yorkies were recognized by AKC but they weren't the standard, but the Alternate? But either way... parti-colored Yorkies are so darn cute. Congrats on your new yorkie. Can't wait to see pics!!!

American Kennel Club - Breed Colors and Markings

End of the Road
 

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I am sorry you feel that way, I in no way said Anne was a bad breeder or referred any nastiness toward her.
My questions were to and about the YTCA, We have been told over and over on this forum that is WRONG for some parti owners to show their parti carrier dogs in AKC. That doing so is dishonest and unreputable.
If that is the case why is it different for a YTCA member?
I was merely asking questions.

I don't understand why it is backbiting or nasty for someone to ask a question. I find it offensive, as a donating member of this forum and active participant, when people come on here with this attitude and suggest that those of us who ARE "full member" or "donating members" somehow lack conscience. You can't be a full member or donating member in "good conscience" but I can, and will, and continue try to offer my friendship and information to those who feel differently than you.

I can see how people might think the comments were directed towards Anne because that is who this breeder review is about. Perhaps if people would like to debate the YTCA, they could start another thread so it doesn't look like something against the reviewed breeder?

You could even bring up her lines in said new thread for your points, but it would not be in the breeder review section where it may look like you are trying to reflect poorly upon her when that is apparently not your intention? :)

It's difficult to comment until all the facts are out, because so much depends on whether she knew the dog was a carrier before the breeding, and if she purposely bred it to another parti carrier. Something I've never felt that was truly understood by many is that there is no known marker for the parti trait, and a breeder can't really test for it; so that's why I would like to see the lines kept separate, if there were a test, it wouldn't be such a big deal.

If a breeder has a dog that produces a parti, the YTCA recommends that those dogs be spayed and neutered and placed in pet homes. In other words, it's not a sin to produce a dog with the fault, but what do you do afterwards when you discover it has the fault? Do you market it as rare and unique, or do you place it in a pet home? Again, we must look at the breeders' goals, was she doing this to breed for the parti trait, or had she been mislead by the other breeder involved? Did the other breeder know her dog was a carrier? There has been talk that many parti breeders are trying to get the parti gene in every line they can, and I think breeders need to be extra careful with whom they trust. Also, I believe that some parti breeders seem to think if they can breed their dog to a champion, any champion, their offspring will automatically be improved; this is just not the case. Again, there are some very complex rules when it comes to breeding to correct certain faults, and there are no shortcuts if you are doing it properly.

The YTCA doesn't have one set of rules for members and one set of rules for other breeders, they just have a code of ethics and a code of conduct that they believe every breeder should follow, and those breeders who are admitted to the club, do promise to follow these guidelines. There are consequences for not doing so, and one of them is suspension from the club. However, proof is needed that they did something unethical, and just producing a parti in itself, is not unethical, was she breeding for it; that's what they see as unethical. What has she done with the dog in question, is she still breeding it?

That is why I brought this up Nancy, In Feb 2007 Ridin the Storm sired Parti pups. DNA was done. No hearsay there. AKC verified.
In post 3 of this thread, smepperson says she got her pup from Hylan in December and that it was out of Ridin the Storm. So apparently Anne has still been breeding him for the last 4 years even though he is a parti carrier.

I'm not criticizing you at all for bringing this up, and I'm truly thankful. I learned that it's best not to jump to conclusions, we need to know for sure that she continued to breed the dog after the DNA results were known, and this is definitely something that should be addressed by the YTCA.

Not only is she breeding him she is still showing dogs out of him...
As you can see here she showed a daughter of him at the Saline County KC of Arkansas Inc. show 10/30/10'
HYLAN ACRES STORM STORY. TR946830/01. 10/19/2009. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Hylan Acres Ridin'The Storm-Ch Hylan Acres River Of Blessin. OWNER: Anne Wylie.

Which is why i wondered why it is ok for her to show carriers ,but not ok for the parti breeders or owners.

Well, in my opinion, it's not okay at all, and I do hold YTCA members to even a higher standard since they agreed to certain things when they joined, so in my opinion, it's worse. However, we all know that there are people who want to join the YTCA for the wrong reasons. Caveat emptor!

Thank you
 

Thank you for posting this. Personally I felt a bit attacked for recommending Hylan Acres and for expressing my positive experience with them. :(

Exactly...

Yeah, exactly.

Not attacking you for recommending Hylan at all, she has beautiful dogs.
I am sure you got a wonderful puppy from her.
Since this was posted in the Breeder review section, the rules for this section state.
"We at YorkieTalk believe that our members have the right to voice their
opinions about breeders, whether they the review is positive or negative. We
also believe that breeders have the right to respond to negative reviews and
complaints."

Just to clarify I only posted what I did because I thought you wanted to discuss a YTCA matter. If you wanted to express things about the breeder specifically, I did not mean to imply your opinion was not valid here. I thought this was going to turn into another YTCA debate and was just trying to locate it to a thread where everyone could discuss this specifically with an appropriate heading. :) That's all. No offense to anyone meant.

Man, I would just like to read a thread that doesn't turn into this!