WARNING!! Bad Breeder: Toni Ledbetter

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

the OP purchased a puppy she didn't like from a place she thought was dirty--
and now is here bashing the breeder. Sorry, I don't get it.

Not exactly... She spoke with the breeder, told her what she was looking for in a puppy, the OP was told by the breeder that she had a puppy that fit her description. The OP drove several hours to TJ's Yorkies to get her puppy, found the puppy Ms Ledbetter told her about to be a total opposite of what she ask for. Ms ledbetter assured her she was what she was looking for she was just not use to having a dress on. On a tour of the facility she found it to be far less than sanitary and close to vomit inducing. Even though her head told her NO her heart told her something quite different and she TRUSTED Ms Ledbetter and took the puppy. After spending time with the puppy in her home environment, the OP found the puppy not fitting in to her family dynamic, the OP contacted the breeder and told her the puppy was not as she describe and in fact it was the total opposite and ask to return the puppy for which she was told no if she didn't want it to sell it herself. Also upon a vet exam the puppy was found to have yeast infections in both ears.
Get it now? She is not Bashing, this is a Public Service

[magicgenie]

OK, the place was dirty but she had driven such a long way that she decided to take the puppy home and hope it changed into what she really wanted. I definitely fault Toni for not being more careful about who she sells to.
Yeast infections are very common and most reasonable people know that.
By the way, Dixie Mom, was Toni's place dirty when you were there? I mean, you wrote a such glowing review about it on her web site.
Be careful what you say, and even more careful what you believe.

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

OK, the place was dirty but she had driven such a long way that she decided to take the puppy home and hope it changed into what she really wanted. I definitely fault Toni for not being more careful about who she sells to.
Yeast infections are very common and most reasonable people know that.
By the way, Dixie Mom, was Toni's place dirty when you were there? I mean, you wrote a such glowing review about it on her web site.
Be careful what you say, and even more careful what you believe.

You had posted on my review of Toni months ago so you know what the conditions of her kennel were at the time of mine and my husbands visit, you had also started a thread about Toni as well when you were not satisfied with her lack of handling your paperwork. You know first hand that Toni is not accurate in her discription of the dogs she is selling. You had sent me an email about the condition and size of the male you purchased from Toni not being as she represented. If you are questioning this I can send the email back to you. You are absolutely right about my guestbook signing on Toni's website it was way to premature, she kept asking me to review her on her guestbook and puppyfind. I was uncomfortable but I did sign her guestbook. I also posted later for people not to review anyone until ALL their dealings with the person had been complete however, that one was deleted.

[magicgenie]

Dixie, I know you have some issues with Toni and I believe somewhere along the way you contacted me about a thread I sorely regret having started about her regarding some messy paperwork. As for inaccurate descriptions, this has been the case with every single dog I've ever purchased sight unseen, not just from Toni. Yeah, Onix was bigger than I expected and his show coat was a little beat, but he has turned out to be a superb dog, so please leave that junk out of this discussion. I've been treated much worse by better known, more respected people.
I posted here questioning this complaint because it looks to me like a case of a buyer wanting to change the agreement after the deal is done. Personally I would just buy back the puppy to make miababe go away happy, but if Toni doesn't want to do that and hasn't agreed to in any contract, that should be the end of it---
I am interested in the accusation of the dirty kennel because this is something that happened to me. I was once falsely accused of having "30 puppies in a fithy basement." A surprise inspection took place and this was proven to be retaliation by someone to whom I had refused to sell a puppy. I'll never get over the horror someone could make up something like that just to harrass me. I've never been to Toni's but things I've read gave me the impression it is quite a nice place.

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

Dixie, I know you have some issues with Toni and I believe somewhere along the way you contacted me about a thread I sorely regret having started about her regarding some messy paperwork. As for inaccurate descriptions, this has been the case with every single dog I've ever purchased sight unseen, not just from Toni. Yeah, Onix was bigger than I expected and his show coat was a little beat, but he has turned out to be a superb dog, so please leave that junk out of this discussion. I've been treated much worse by better known, more respected people.
I posted here questioning this complaint because it looks to me like a case of a buyer wanting to change the agreement after the deal is done. Personally I would just buy back the puppy to make miababe go away happy, but if Toni doesn't want to do that and hasn't agreed to in any contract, that should be the end of it---
I am interested in the accusation of the dirty kennel because this is something that happened to me. I was once falsely accused of having "30 puppies in a fithy basement." A surprise inspection took place and this was proven to be retaliation by someone to whom I had refused to sell a puppy. I'll never get over the horror someone could make up something like that just to harrass me. I've never been to Toni's but things I've read gave me the impression it is quite a nice place.

First of all, I never contacted you in regards your thread about Toni, I was purchasing a dog from California Wilds Kennel and you had reviewed them on puppyfind that is what initiated my contact with you. You volunteered that information about Toni while we were emailing. I am happy that Onix turned out to be a great boy for you, I own his grandson and I adore him. Leaving out the junk...
As for the condition of Toni's Kennel, It was not clean when my husband and I were there, the dogs were running around in the runs stepping in their own feces and urine. Toni told me she had not had a chance to clean and as I stated before I gave her the benefit of the doubt.

[puppylove11]

Please correct this post if it is wrong. Ms. Ledbetter is not the breeder of the puppy in question, right? How old was this particular puppy when she was rehomed? How long did Ms. Ledbetter own this puppy? We are no fan of puppyfind, but we have noticed Ms. Ledbetter rehomes many dogs not from her breeding still intact to other breeding homes.

I commend the person who went against her gut and purchased the puppy. Now the puppy is in a good place because of your actions.

[puppylove11]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

You forgot about the stud potential male you sold to a MD buyer last month..he came to her ill and continues to need care...and the adult female sold to her friend is also very sick.

This is very sad.

[nicholasdale]

come on Kathryn you know darn well my yorkies house was not dirty and my yorkies DO NOT run in urine and feces ever, Do they potty on there pads, yes and is there ever urine and stool when i go out yes, and it is imediatly cleaned up, if these yorkies were so called living in such conditions why on earth would you even buy a dog from me and why was your dog so well groomed and no smell because under condition you describe every one knows you can not just shampoo the smell out.
And when i purchase a yorkie and it stays to small yes I rehome them to a pet home.
For you joy you know I had abcess tooth and was on abx and then a root canal and this is why i did not get back to you right away. I spent coutless times talking with you. You never gave her a chance from day one.

this is all just crazy and blown so way out there, it is so sad this is the way adults act and the cruel remarks from people who has never been here!!!

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

You forgot about the stud potential male you sold to a MD buyer last month..he came to her ill and continues to need care...and the adult female sold to her friend is also very sick.

OMG....this just keeps getting worse Pat, I hope their yorkies will recover...poor babies!

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by nicholasdale

come on Kathryn you know darn well my yorkies house was not dirty and my yorkies DO NOT run in urine and feces ever, Do they potty on there pads, yes and is there ever urine and stool when i go out yes, and it is imediatly cleaned up, if these yorkies were so called living in such conditions why on earth would you even buy a dog from me and why was your dog so well groomed and no smell because under condition you describe every one knows you can not just shampoo the smell out.
And when i purchase a yorkie and it stays to small yes I rehome them to a pet home.
For you joy you know I had abcess tooth and was on abx and then a root canal and this is why i did not get back to you right away. I spent coutless times talking with you. You never gave her a chance from day one.

this is all just crazy and blown so way out there, it is so sad this is the way adults act and the cruel remarks from people who has never been here!!!

First RED FLAG would have sent me running in the opposite direction...I find your term for your "kennel" amusing...Yorkie House...well, that's a new one!

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by nicholasdale

come on Kathryn you know darn well my yorkies house was not dirty and my yorkies DO NOT run in urine and feces ever, Do they potty on there pads, yes and is there ever urine and stool when i go out yes, and it is imediatly cleaned up, if these yorkies were so called living in such conditions why on earth would you even buy a dog from me and why was your dog so well groomed and no smell because under condition you describe every one knows you can not just shampoo the smell out.
And when i purchase a yorkie and it stays to small yes I rehome them to a pet home.
For you joy you know I had abcess tooth and was on abx and then a root canal and this is why i did not get back to you right away. I spent coutless times talking with you. You never gave her a chance from day one.

this is all just crazy and blown so way out there, it is so sad this is the way adults act and the cruel remarks from people who has never been here!!!

I'm not sure about the OP but, my husband was with me in the "Yorkie House" so, everyone is a liar except you?
Hind sight being 20/20 if you could have eaten off the floors of that kennel I still should never bought a dog from you, IMOP your honesty, integrity and ethics in breeding go way beyond filth.

Yes the female you handed me was groomed as for her not smelling like kennel? Well everybody knows , they make a shampoo to remove skunk odor, so I'm sure they make a shampoo strong enough to remove the odor of feces and urine however, I personally have never had to use such a product.
This is not being blown out of proportion...2 people who have been to your place, described, in their own words similiar conditions. As I said before, this is not just about the condition of your kennel, the poop and pee can be cleaned up but the emotional hurt caused by your actions can't be, these aren't just DOGS to some of us.

[nicholasdale]

I am finished here and like I said I wil see you in court Kathryn!

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by nicholasdale

I am finished here and like I said I wil see you in court Kathryn!

Looking forward to it.

[dotty]

I have know Toni for a year and have visit Tonis home on many times and have stop to visit without her knowing I was coming to visit. I have never seen Tonis dogs in any way to be dirty or not well taken care of and can not believe people come on here a tell such things, i was even there when one of her moms delivered a litter and the love and care she gave the mom and the newborns. Tonis dogs are always clean and happy. I can not understand why people can write such lies.
I have never seen a kennel like hers and how lean and neat it is. I actually bought my little snoopy from a kennel and could not even stand the smell and would not even let me see his parents and it is not this way at Tonis.
This makes me very mad that pepople are writing this stuff about her. You can contact me if you need more from me.

STOP THE LIES

[jackson25]

Originally Posted by dotty

I have know Toni for a year and have visit Tonis home on many times and have stop to visit without her knowing I was coming to visit. I have never seen Tonis dogs in any way to be dirty or not well taken care of and can not believe people come on here a tell such things, i was even there when one of her moms delivered a litter and the love and care she gave the mom and the newborns. Tonis dogs are always clean and happy. I can not understand why people can write such lies.
I have never seen a kennel like hers and how lean and neat it is. I actually bought my little snoopy from a kennel and could not even stand the smell and would not even let me see his parents and it is not this way at Tonis.
This makes me very mad that pepople are writing this stuff about her. You can contact me if you need more from me.

STOP THE LIES

Hmmm, another newbie, how convenient!