Beware!

[wcovey]

Nancy above, you should of called akc before you post that, i did, and she not suspended, and you can also find how many dogs she has, i inquired and she has 8 yorkies?? how is that a puppymill..sorry i just hate when people are so judgemental before they know their facts, and to post them before researching it, im just amazed at some people tatics, sit here and judge people and their dogs, and i bet the ones that post are the only responsible dog owners in the nation, if my child falls and injures his leg, does that make me a irresponsible parent?? no it doesnt, accidents happen...who are we do judge one another, its like this, there is 5 of us sitting at a bus stop, we see a wreak, are we all going to have the same story? no of course not, its how we perceive it in our mind, is how we are going to tell it, so many of these threads are frabricated due to how we perceive it, but yet everyone is ready to jump on the bus to give their two cents when they were not even there, or know what happened, just going by hear say, thats what they call it legally, HEAR SAY!

[AHicks99]

(PM from Tiffany)
when you bought max almost 6 yrs ago you knew he had one testical, you still choice to breed him on numerous of occassions. how do you post when you have done so wrong in your judgement as breeding a dog with one testical, on numerous of occasions your just amazing

(my reply)
Stop LYING!!! You as much as I do know what went on. I even called you once I received him and questioned you about thi and told you I was going to have him neutered. And Quote you said "NO DONT DO THAT SEND HIM BACK THEN" So stop trying to act all bad and act like you are a reputable breeder. Your reputation speaks for itself. I am sure its not just here on YT. You have burned many people not just me. When I originally contacted you I wanted a puppy not a older dog. Once you got my money you said you didnt have one but you had the perfect male which was Max. You sent him to me to get rid of him. Take responsibilty for your unethical BACKYARD Breeding program. Stop claiming you are more then that. You bred him more then the AKC allows without a DNA test. The first and only time I bred him a DNA test had to be done. So thats how I know it was more then one accident. As you previoucly claiim. You are a puppy mill! You should be ashamed of yourself for what you are doing to not only families but to these poor defenseless dogs.

I am happy I had the chance to love Max and get him away from you. He deserved far more then you gave and cared for. And again I will say as I started out I looked up to you as you said you were a breeder for the love of the breed (not for the money)I trusted what you said to me and I take FULL responsibilty for that. As for the litter he fathered in my home ALL pups were spayed/neutered before leaving as well as he.

I will be sure to post the WHOLD story not just the lies.

(Tiffany's 2nd message to me)
Alycia, i have the email you sent, stating you were looking for a stud dog under 3.5lbs, and as soon as you got him you breed him, you were not looking for a puppy! back in the day when you got max i just got into yorkies, i learned by making mistakes, max should of never been bred bc of his testical, but he was very healthy, i have come a long way since then and have built a wonderful program, even to the point that i was the first in the usa to get to breed to 3 time westminister champion in over 4 yrs, because of the knowledge i learned, she approved me, and now my mentor is an akc committe judge who is known as the best breeder in the world, she herself said to me that when you first start out, you will make alot of mistakes, you learn by trial and error, and you did the same, you breed max not knowing you shouldnt breed him, at the time i was going off what his breeder said, that it was okay, the sad thing is, is there are show breeders who do the same, they take a 50 50 chance of producing one testical dogs, but one of the 2nd ranked yorkies in the world came from a one testical dog, like i said i made my mistakes, i was knew in the yorkie world, and learning this breed, so to still be judged for that after all these years is sad. I put many hours in learning the most i could about their health, pedigrees, everything to make a better program and i did. But thread like the dog got bigger then they estimated, we all know we can only estimate, and thats by going off the yorkie chart by the weeks they are, if we knew the exact weight of each dog was going to be, we would be millionaires, that is another post, then the post about the hernia, she suppose to buy him as a pet, the hernia didnt show up intil right before shipping which the vet said he could of popped by straining to poop, i tried to contact this lady numerous of times to let her know, when she did not get back, i had a shipping date plan and knew she had to drive 2 hours to get him, so i shipped him, but after she received him i found out she is a korean lady who owns a pet store, i refunded her money back and she kept the dog, she still to this day has not returned the dog to me, im sure she has sold him. So as far as these threads there is two sides to a story, i personally can not guarantee weight, i personally have a receipt showing i refunded mrs angel leu her money from paypal and requested the dog be returned, the hernia can be fixed and he can go to a pet home, he was suppose to be going to one anyways, but cant do that if she keeps the dog, she failed to post she was refunded her monies, and still will not ship the dog back. so thats all im going to say, you continue on about max after 5 plus years, we both made mistake of breeding him, so if im damned for it, so are you..


If you read her post a couple of replies up, her messages are completely contradictive

[Dixies Mom]

Who is your first post directed to?

[AHicks99]

Tiffany tells me she was just starting out thats why she sent me a male with one testicle intended for breeding. She claims she didnt know. She made a msitake.

But then claims to be a breeder for 18 years!!!

Biggest dog I have in this fight is she is a habitual liar! And shes lied to me. Not once but several times. She tries to message me to get me to understand but then insults me. I dont think so. Tiffany if you are such a reputable breeder why are you here to defend. Thats what it is no other word for it. You know its YOUR reputation on the line you are jeopardizing!!! Not anyone else YOU!!!

[wcovey]

I cant help but to respond to this one, ITS STATE's to send the dog back, so the breeder offered you to return the dog and you didnt! what the heck! if you keep the dog, knew he had one testical and continued to breed him how in the heck do you come on here and say anything! people this what im talking about, did you breed the dog knowing it had one testical? YES U DID, did the breeder offer to have you return him? YES YOU DID, and this happened how many years ago, i read around 6 or 7 yrs ago! what the heck are you doing on here about a dog you bought and decided to keep and breed that had one testical, and the breeder offered to take him back, ARE U NUTS! you look like FOOL! let me think..hmmmmm one testical, breeder let me know this, and said if i decided different to send the dog back, but i decide to keep him and have puppies....DOESNT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST to know that you had an option to send him back and you didnt!!! you choose to keep him, then you want to come on her years, almost a decade later and complain after you used and profited money! WTH??? people like you need to stay the heck off here! it your type who cause problems and act like a victim when you choose to keep him and use him for breeding, GET OFF HERE!! dont need anymore trouble makers, especially from a decade ago!

[Dixies Mom]

The person who seems to be being slammed here is NOT the original poster (NOT THAT THEY SHOULD BE SLAMMED EITHER). She is just reinterating was was being said about the breeder. That is how others learn. I have been taken in by the "used car salesman" tactics of a breeder and I feel obligated to voice my experience so others DO NOT GO THROUGH THE HURT AND HUMILIATION that comes with trusting the WRONG "people"

[AHicks99]

There you go Tiffany! For all of your information Tiffany is the one who chose to PM me today. And after several messages from her I had no other choice but to call her out. To you her friend it is only a matter of time until you are on the fence questioning her breeding program! Why it is still a thread almost a devade ago is because of her and what she continues to do. Again I will say I take full responsibility for MYSELF! Not anyone and more people like ME should do that! Stop blaming everyone. Like Tiffany says there are two sides to the story and she knows the truth.

And if she takes my comments in a derogatory manner I take what she did to me ALMOST a decade ago in the same fashion. All I have to say is HAHAHAHA Tiffany its on you!

[wcovey]

Alicia above posting that Tiffany is acting like a mayweather ********* out, is uncalled for, i have reported her to yorkie talk to, this is insane! her saying racial comments is wayyyyyyyyyyy uncalled for, and how her extreme violent words are far and beyond talking yorkies or breeders. This act of violence is not allowed or tolerated here. We have many different minoritys in the yorkie world, and for someone to come one here and call anyone a racial name should be banned, i would never place a dog in the care of someone who sounds so wacked out, her temperment shows that she has acts of violence, whos to say she wouldnt take this out on a dog, if she's taking it out on another human, first of all we all have minoritys in our families of some sort or another, either be irish, latino, african american, german, native american, russian, ect...so this kind of burst out goes to shows me how unstable this person is..Good luck to you Tiffany and hope that you dont have to deal with this anymore..

[wcovey]

Call her out?? ......no other option?? may i ask how old you are? who says call her out? now that my friends is what we refer here in cali as ghetto talk! apparently we are dealing with a very uneducated, unethical person, and to that my friends, ignore her and lets all move on to more mature conversations.

[Dixies Mom]

This totally turned into something extemely ugly and I am out. Take 2 seconds and think of what this forum is REALLY about, OUR BABIES our YORKIE BABIES

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

This totally turned into something extemely ugly and I am out. Take 2 seconds and think of what this forum is REALLY about, OUR BABIES our YORKIE BABIES

I agree and I don't think any of them really care about the dogs...just their ego's. It is disgusting to read this thread and how low some of them have gone..

[Wylie's Mom]

Could you please let me know if the "emails" that are being quoted here are/were being sent OFF of YT or via PM here at YT?

I'm referring specifically to the PMs that use a word that start w/ an "N", which will not be tolerated here. Please PM me so I may take action. Thank you.