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daisygal · 05-17-2010, 09:59 AM

I researched the internet for 6 months searching for the perfect toy yorkie. I live in NJ and I wanted a healthy and good looking toy yorkie. I could have purchased in NJ, but I wanted a 3-5 pound toy yorkie who was black and gold.

I found Cheryl Nims (a breeder in Missouri). She spoke with me via email and and on the phone. She was friendly, approachable, and a wonderful person (and breeder).

My toy yorkie is now 2 years old (as of yesterday). He is gorgeous, loving, healthy, and so sweet. What a personality! Cheryl Nims take the time to love each of her yorkies. She is very nurturing and raises beautiful, healthy yorkies who love children and animals alike.

In fact, I am considering purchasing a second yorkie from her.

I am a dog lover and I was very nervous, stressed and uptight about buying a yorkie online. Cheryl put my mind at ease. My toy yorkie arrived on a plane well maintained and healthy.

I highly recommend her as a breeder.

Thank you Cheryl.

Alaina

AddieandMiaMom · 05-17-2010, 10:40 AM

I just happened upon this very old posting that has been resurrected by another YT member. My question is, why are all the posters who say this Cheryl Nims person is a good breeder brand, spanking new posters? Curious...

claudia1149 · 05-17-2010, 01:43 PM

actually, some NON WHOLESALE breeders, who sell privately have chosen to be USDA. They feel it gives greater credibility and allows them to be current on new requirements. There are several on the list that I know personally who do not have multiple buildings, do not sell to pet stores, and do not have a factory type operation. Granted, some do, but it is unfair to apply that standard to all.

claudia1149 · 05-17-2010, 01:52 PM

I can only answer your question as it relates to me. I got my first yorkie 18 months ago. I now have three. I spend a great deal of time researching on the internet. I have visited this site before looking for answers that may have been posted related to bloody stools. I had just returned from a trip to southern illinois where I visited a questionable pet shop. I came to the forum to look for their name and found the posting related to Cheryl Nims. I felt I had to respond. While I may be a newer member, and certainly a very new poster, I am not new to the site. I guess everyone begins somewhere.

mojo · 05-17-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AddieandMiaMom

I just happened upon this very old posting that has been resurrected by another YT member. My question is, why are all the posters who say this Cheryl Nims person is a good breeder brand, spanking new posters? Curious...

Agreed! And I am not saying she is horrible, I honestly don't know. I can just speak of my experience. Although I will say I remember Cheryl being a nice lady. I never saw her kennel and cannot speak to that. I will say of my 3 dogs, the one I got from Cheryl is the total snuggly love bug. I just felt a little disalusioned (sp?) last week and then came on here and found this original post about a puppy mill.
I just find it curious myself that now my picture is gone and all of these brand new yorkie talk people come out singing her praises and basically insisting everybody else is wrong.
There is also a Cairn Terrier website in Cheryl's name.
I just pray that she is the great breeder that comes across in her website as I know myself and all of you are very passionate about our yorkies.

claudia1149 · 05-17-2010, 03:13 PM

I have to be honest, if someone sent me a picture of a pup I sold them, I think I would post it too. Especially if it is as cute as the one you have below your name. I woulnd't have thought of asking permission, but would want people to see what my pups looked like. Thanks, I know better now. I have a coworker whose son has addisons. Many traumas with that. I am sorry.I had a pup with luxating patella and felt horrible, but know your little one has much bigger problems. I wish you well.

Rhetts_mama · 05-17-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AddieandMiaMom

I just happened upon this very old posting that has been resurrected by another YT member. My question is, why are all the posters who say this Cheryl Nims person is a good breeder brand, spanking new posters? Curious...

Curiouser and curiouser.

mommadog1 · 05-18-2010, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Curiouser and curiouser.

hmmmm, yes indeedy

Gracie116 · 10-27-2010, 06:40 AM

I owned Gracie for 14.5 years, and she was the love of my life. I actually just found her papers, and looked up Cheryl Nims on the internet to see if her problems were a fluke - or if she was really a puppy mill. Although her website is great - from this site I would say she is a puppy mill. Grace had a ton of issues - from both knees luxating (3 ) to gastric problems and bleeding. We spent years searching for the proper diet which wouldn't cause her pain and which she could digest. She had spine issues and we spent thousands of dollars on vet and hospital bills. She died a year ago. She will always be my favorite dog (we have 3 other yorkies), but I wouldn't wish what she went through on any other dog. The Vet said she was in pain most of - if not all of her life. As much as I love Grace - I would never buy another dog from Car-Mir-Jac kennels.

blondschilli · 10-28-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mojo

I realize this is an old post, but I want to contribute. I bought Bella from Cheryl. Bella is about 6 1/2 years old. She has addisons and has been very ill for the past 3 - 3 1/2 years.
I had emailed Cheryl right after Bella got sick to see if her other dogs had any history of addisons (oh, of course not).
Anyway, I guess I must have sent her a pic of Bella because I was researching her website today and there is my dogs pic posted under her tails of approval or whatever it is called - which I never gave permission for her to post. Now I know all of her approvals are faked up. Very mad and disappointed. Guess my fault, just wanted to post my experience.

http://carmirjacyorkies.com/main/img...od_360_263.jpg

Wow I checked it out, now this is why in Mo we need to vote Yes to prop B. People like this. That is unreal that lady did that and now your dog is so Ill. Sorry to hear about your dog.

Rachael x · 10-28-2010, 09:02 AM

Im sorry to hear that

Thanks for the warning.

MartMorMom · 02-15-2011, 11:05 AM

I just happened to come across this thread of emails regarding Cheryl Nims and her puppies. I have two beautiful half brothers, Marti and Morey from Cheryl. I bought them as older pups and these two have become like my children. They were in beautiful condition when they arrived. I live in NJ and they were shipped in a very good, sturdy crate with with Royal Canin food, all their papers, etc.

I think it is wrong to call Cheryl's business a puppy mill. These dogs were not malnourished, mistreated or otherwise. They are loving members of my family. Any time I had questions, Cheryl always took the time to answer everything fully and completely. When my one dog had a bad reaction to a distemper shot, Cheryl, not the vet addressed my concerns and assured me it could happen, but generally the recovery would be ok.

I would recommend and get another yorkie from Cheryl in a heartbeat. I think she breeds dogs with wonderful temperments

. I feel fortunate to have come across her site.

roseslevi · 02-15-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MartMorMom

I just happened to come across this thread of emails regarding Cheryl Nims and her puppies. I have two beautiful half brothers, Marti and Morey from Cheryl. I bought them as older pups and these two have become like my children. They were in beautiful condition when they arrived. I live in NJ and they were shipped in a very good, sturdy crate with with Royal Canin food, all their papers, etc.

I think it is wrong to call Cheryl's business a puppy mill. These dogs were not malnourished, mistreated or otherwise. They are loving members of my family. Any time I had questions, Cheryl always took the time to answer everything fully and completely. When my one dog had a bad reaction to a distemper shot, Cheryl, not the vet addressed my concerns and assured me it could happen, but generally the recovery would be ok.

I would recommend and get another yorkie from Cheryl in a heartbeat. I think she breeds dogs with wonderful temperments

. I feel fortunate to have come across her site.

How interesting that you would choose your first post to be a breeder review supporting this breeder....very interesting, but makes me very suspicious of the validity of this recommendation. Just my opinion.

lillymae · 02-15-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by roseslevi

How interesting that you would choose your first post to be a breeder review supporting this breeder....very interesting, but makes me very suspicious of the validity of this recommendation. Just my opinion.

My thoughts exactly

I smell something FISHY, do you smell it ?

MartMorMom · 02-15-2011, 01:17 PM

Just my opinion and experience Ladies...nothing fishy at all. I don't profit from pushing anyone's business. Didn't realize "my first post" had to be about anything in particular, but thanks for letting me know.

05-17-2010, 09:59 AM	#46
daisygal YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bogota, NJ, USA Posts: 2	Yorkie in Missouri.. I researched the internet for 6 months searching for the perfect toy yorkie. I live in NJ and I wanted a healthy and good looking toy yorkie. I could have purchased in NJ, but I wanted a 3-5 pound toy yorkie who was black and gold. I found Cheryl Nims (a breeder in Missouri). She spoke with me via email and and on the phone. She was friendly, approachable, and a wonderful person (and breeder). My toy yorkie is now 2 years old (as of yesterday). He is gorgeous, loving, healthy, and so sweet. What a personality! Cheryl Nims take the time to love each of her yorkies. She is very nurturing and raises beautiful, healthy yorkies who love children and animals alike. In fact, I am considering purchasing a second yorkie from her. I am a dog lover and I was very nervous, stressed and uptight about buying a yorkie online. Cheryl put my mind at ease. My toy yorkie arrived on a plane well maintained and healthy. I highly recommend her as a breeder. Thank you Cheryl. Alaina

05-17-2010, 10:40 AM	#47
AddieandMiaMom YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 303	I just happened upon this very old posting that has been resurrected by another YT member. My question is, why are all the posters who say this Cheryl Nims person is a good breeder brand, spanking new posters? Curious... __________________ Mommy to Addie, Dany, Mia, and Pickles R.I.P Miss Mis (Missy) 06.25.08 - Heaven just wouldn't be Heaven if you weren't there to greet me.

10-27-2010, 06:40 AM	#54
Gracie116 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Haven, CT, USA Posts: 2	Cheryl Nims Yorkies I owned Gracie for 14.5 years, and she was the love of my life. I actually just found her papers, and looked up Cheryl Nims on the internet to see if her problems were a fluke - or if she was really a puppy mill. Although her website is great - from this site I would say she is a puppy mill. Grace had a ton of issues - from both knees luxating (3 ) to gastric problems and bleeding. We spent years searching for the proper diet which wouldn't cause her pain and which she could digest. She had spine issues and we spent thousands of dollars on vet and hospital bills. She died a year ago. She will always be my favorite dog (we have 3 other yorkies), but I wouldn't wish what she went through on any other dog. The Vet said she was in pain most of - if not all of her life. As much as I love Grace - I would never buy another dog from Car-Mir-Jac kennels.

10-28-2010, 09:02 AM	#56
Rachael x Poppy's Mamma ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: England Posts: 3,751 Blog Entries: 3	Im sorry to hear that Thanks for the warning. __________________ Rachael & Poppy

02-15-2011, 11:05 AM	#57
MartMorMom YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2	I just happened to come across this thread of emails regarding Cheryl Nims and her puppies. I have two beautiful half brothers, Marti and Morey from Cheryl. I bought them as older pups and these two have become like my children. They were in beautiful condition when they arrived. I live in NJ and they were shipped in a very good, sturdy crate with with Royal Canin food, all their papers, etc. I think it is wrong to call Cheryl's business a puppy mill. These dogs were not malnourished, mistreated or otherwise. They are loving members of my family. Any time I had questions, Cheryl always took the time to answer everything fully and completely. When my one dog had a bad reaction to a distemper shot, Cheryl, not the vet addressed my concerns and assured me it could happen, but generally the recovery would be ok. I would recommend and get another yorkie from Cheryl in a heartbeat. I think she breeds dogs with wonderful temperments. I feel fortunate to have come across her site.

05-17-2010, 01:43 PM	#48
claudia1149 Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Moline, Il. USA Posts: 23	actually, some NON WHOLESALE breeders, who sell privately have chosen to be USDA. They feel it gives greater credibility and allows them to be current on new requirements. There are several on the list that I know personally who do not have multiple buildings, do not sell to pet stores, and do not have a factory type operation. Granted, some do, but it is unfair to apply that standard to all.

05-17-2010, 01:52 PM	#49
claudia1149 Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Moline, Il. USA Posts: 23	I can only answer your question as it relates to me. I got my first yorkie 18 months ago. I now have three. I spend a great deal of time researching on the internet. I have visited this site before looking for answers that may have been posted related to bloody stools. I had just returned from a trip to southern illinois where I visited a questionable pet shop. I came to the forum to look for their name and found the posting related to Cheryl Nims. I felt I had to respond. While I may be a newer member, and certainly a very new poster, I am not new to the site. I guess everyone begins somewhere.

05-17-2010, 03:13 PM	#51
claudia1149 Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Moline, Il. USA Posts: 23	I have to be honest, if someone sent me a picture of a pup I sold them, I think I would post it too. Especially if it is as cute as the one you have below your name. I woulnd't have thought of asking permission, but would want people to see what my pups looked like. Thanks, I know better now. I have a coworker whose son has addisons. Many traumas with that. I am sorry.I had a pup with luxating patella and felt horrible, but know your little one has much bigger problems. I wish you well.

02-15-2011, 01:17 PM	#60
MartMorMom YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2	Just my opinion and experience Ladies...nothing fishy at all. I don't profit from pushing anyone's business. Didn't realize "my first post" had to be about anything in particular, but thanks for letting me know.