I am one of those people who doesn't have a problem with the word "teacup"... it's just a word. I also don't have a problem with having/breeding small dogs... my experience so far is that my smaller yorkies whelp easier than some of my larger ones (just my experience).

There will always be differences of opinions on many topics... but if we were all the same... the world would be a pretty boring place.

Being on the internet does expose you to many things.. some of them not so nice. Hopefully your "friend" will find something else to entertain themselves with.

:thumbup: Nice Post. I was trying to decide how I should post my feelings and you did it perfectly.

In order to purposely breed tinies, you have to breed undersized dogs and over time you are guaranteed to get genetic defaults. And you are breeding very small females at only 3.5 lbs. What do you look at to determine that they will not have any problems?

I also saw where you are advertising them on hoobly.
http://www.hoobly.com/members/yorkyshop/

NOWHERE on my site or anywhere have I EVER said they were champion SIRED. Merely that they have many champions in their bloodlines.

Believe me I have strived for quality always! And I am proud of my dogs and it has been rewarding in many ways.

It is mis-information to say that there are more genetic problems associated with the Chocolates. I know where each and every puppy is and there are no health problems in my line of Chocolates. And they are not related in any way.
And to quote you "reputable show breeders don't just sell their pups with full breeding rights to just anyone". Does that give you a clue that I am a reputable breeder? Since I have bought several dogs from a show breeder? She also tried to talk me out of Dixie on many occasions!
It is also mis-information to group the tinies with health problems. I tell you I see all this about Nutrical and I cringe. I bought one tube of it many, many years ago and hardly used it and never bought another and don't need to.
Nutrition is a major key!

Broad statement of mis-information. NOT ALL THE TINY ONES HAVE THE GENETIC FAULTS.

I have had 6 generations of my lines, how is that for determining?

I have a tiny 3lb male that I may breed to the 3-1/2lb female if she gets the size that I feel comfortable with.
And I have checked into her backgound to determine her abilities.

The person who threatened me in a PM is not my friend, nor has ever been.
She even warned me that it is against the law to post her PM of threats.

While its true that not all tinies have health problems, many many of them do. Both genetic and otherwise. I do Yorkie rescue and a lot of the ones I get are the tiny ones that were bred by breeders trying to get them as small as possible. The smaller the pup, the more money in their pocket. I get called almost WEEKLY by some poor family who has bought one of these tiny ones only to discover that they have major medical problems. For example, Lily is one of my current rescues. She barely weighs 2 lbs. She suffers from Hydrocephalus, Liver Disease, Severe Mental Retardation, Partial Blindness, and Heart Murmur - Stage 4. The ones that are purposely bred to be tiny are much more likely to have severe health problems. Buying one of these babies is like playing Russian Roulette.

To be honest, I'm not sure there is a good way to bred these undersized dogs. However, I wish you the best of luck and can see that you do love them very much.

Here is YTCA's opinion,
Special circumstances often come with extra tiny dogs. They are extremely
susceptible to both hereditary and non-hereditary health problems, including
birth defects that may go undetected for a long time.

I'm going to stay out of this thread now. My passion and what I have to deal with on a daily basis makes me biased on the issue. And I do want to add that I am sorry you are having to deal with threats.

It's awful to have been threatened and I do hope it gets worked out for you. Just remember as hard as you may try you can't please everyone. Best advice is be honest, have integrity, breed properly by breeding to the standard and don't sweat the stuff you can't control. I wish you the best!!

I'm glad to see you removed the term "Teacup" it really shouldn't be used by responsible breederd IMO.

Hi and welcome as I don't believe I've met you on YT yet.

First of all, I am so sorry you are being harassed. Regardless of personal beliefs, no person should harass another.

The picture of Hattie at 7 mo. is the cutest thing ever!! I do think that your prices are very high, but that is my personal opinion. As a breeder, you have the right to sell your puppies at whatever price you choose.

I'm not a fan of the term "teacup" only because it is so widespread and misused. People seem to think it's a special type of Yorkie so I always correct them. But, for lack of a better, word... you could just call them "Tinies." :)

Anyway, I hope you get your issue with the harasser solved. And keep reading here at YT... I learn something new every day!

I too am sorry you are being harrased.

When I came to YT I found the negative association with teacup interesting. When I was growing up, my mother always had "teacup" Chihuauas (sp) and what it meant (at least back then) was that it fit into a teacup when it was a baby. I remember this because when my mom brought her first one home it did fit in a teacup It was not associated with an idication as to how large it would be fully grown or anything of the sort and my mom's babies ranged in the 4-7 lbs. if I had to estimate.

It was only here that I understood what all the negative association was about and have formed my own opinion based on all that I have learned here.

I think that it is terrible to breed a tiny female solely for the purpose of getting a smaller sized litter weight and it seems the breeders I read on here are on top of their game knowing what they are doing so they don't breed a girl that is too tiny to birth a litter. However, I have also read posts here from people having no idea what they are doing, in a panic because their pregnant dog may be too small to birth the puppies that they allowed their dog to get pregnant with in the first place, nevermind all the emergency vet visits and sometimes death that comes with it. It breaks my heart.

I have always had large dogs, and I have to be honest when I say, sometimes I look at my lil' Lucy and I think OMG she would have the prettiest babies BUT I have no intention of having a batch up puppies just to fill my desire to be surrounded by baby Yorkies. I'll just have to get my fill with looking at all the precious ones on here coming from responsible, experienced breeders.

Thank you so much for the best wishes. we all love yorkies and that is what this forum is about!

FYI if you are selling your pups, then this thread belongs in a different section. "For Sale" Thanks, Deborah

Everyone is very passionate about their Yorkies on here and please understand we have people come in breeding all kinds of stuff and everyone gets scared, worried, and mostly fears the worst for these babies. Your answers to many questions here seem direct and pretty educated besides the word teacup which too had me going :eek: We have many pop in out of nowhere saying my female is pregnant, she 3.5 pounds, the male was 7 and she has been in labor 4 hours what do I do?? Well you as a breed knows thats a scary thought for ANYONE and puts all babies involved at a high high risk. So yes, many tend to get defensive right off the bat (including me) and scared. You get good and bad on every forum and I can tell you this, every single person that has posted on this thread means well. Some are opinionated, some not so opinionated but everyone of us is concerned thats all. I think this site would lose much of it's beauty without us passionate people on it, voiceing opinions, getting a lil catty (lol) etc., botton line WE LOVE YORKIES.
I too have been PM'ed MANY times with not so nice things when I talk about breeding my Diggy. And all the rude comments had me very discouraged about some of the members here, I then after many many long talks with long time members realized they don't always mean bad. Some do, some don't and I now have a pretty good feel for the "concerned" ones and the "meanies" All we can do is try our hardest, get educated, then get educated some more. Take all the proper steps in the breeding process, have proper tests ran, and do whats best for THE YORKIE not ourselves. That's what I am doing. I wish your babies ALL the luck in the world....

As far as your prices go, thats none of my business...all I can say about that is you have to live with it and if your resting well at night then do what you have to do just remember your not going to get much sympathy or understanding as MANY MANY show breeders on here sell for much much much less and thats babies with a champion sire. Im not saying if I agree or disagree just myy observations on here. Again GOOD LUCK! :)

BRAVO to you for doing RESCUE! I see where you are coming from.
In reference to tinies: I see a few sites that advertise they do not breed for tiny ones but sometimes do have an occasional tiny. This statement scares me to death! Especially when you see the puppy and the whites of its eyes are prominent. They may not breed for tinies, but are these occasional ones actually "runt of the litter"? Which spells problems in some cases.

GOOD POST!!! :thumbup:

Thank You!
OH, Hattie is a doll and the pix does not do her justice. Hattie is living in NYC and I need to update that too. Her mother is Rio and I have never gotten to save a little girl to breed from her, because they are usually the size of Hattie.