Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 1281425)

i don't take it wrong. No, ceeby is not in the standard color for SHOW dogs. but, he is darker than his picture looks. his back is actually almost charcoal Did you know that some show people dye their yorkies for the show ring? i didn't until a well known show breeder on here recently told me that when I questioned the color of her show dogs who are light like Ceeby. did you also know that show people perfer a little longer leg and a longer neck than what we see on here. It makes them look very regal in the full coats. As far as bettering the breed, My dogs have raised the bar on breeding pet quality dogs in my area. when I started, I bought dogs that were from show kennels. people on YT that have been here to my home love my adult dogs. They almost to a person have said their pictures don't do them justice. So i take no offense at your question because i know what I have but you probably have opened a can of worms from other people that will jump in on this.. if I were to show you some pictures of the yorkies I looked at before i bought, you would die to think people are even breeding such dogs. they look nothing like yorkies are supposed to look.:D i almost bought one before I bought Ceeby because I didn't know any better. :( I even had one local breeder tell me that she didn't think males ears are supposed to stand because she had never seen a male with erect ears. this was a person that has been breeding for many years.
Let's remember this is Marcel's thread. and he is one little gorgeous dog.

Originally Posted by ButterflyYorkie (Post 1285430)

Dee, I am not quoting you for any reason other than something you mentioned...

Yes some people do dye their dogs for the ring. It's become pretty obvious to me at different times in the past, one who knows yorkies can see it a mile away. Most judges are able to tell a difference now days. So can I. I cannot count the times a judge took his/her fingers and rubbed them briskly down one of my dog's coat or one I was handling to see if any color came off. There are also products that are meant to prevent someone from seeing a dye job...a whole different topic that I'll stay out of... They also know that with a female it is common to lighten up due to hormones with their heat cycle. Judges are fair and know the breed, for the most part... Lighter dogs can and do do well in the ring as long as they are on the lines of blue and not leaning towards washed out silver where blue hues should be. Structure, coat texture, type and attitude should be the main objective IMO. We all want a beautiful, rich steel blue...and some dogs are born with it, hold it for life while others have it for a while and lose it with age while still being a wonderful example of the breed.

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1286188)

Robbie,

Yes, it's every breeder/exhibtor's dream to obtain and keep the dark steel blue coat. The standard puts so much emphasis on the coat. However, it's the icing on the cake and does hide a multitude of faults. While I myself want that color/texture, etc. While I want that great icing, a great cake is more important to me.

Every exhibitor's preference in a dog is different. Some prefer a more leggy dog, other's prefer a more cobby dog, other's are head hunters. Me I guess I'm a yorkie snob and prefer the whole package....structure, head, ears, eyes, head carriage, good front, good hind quarters, topline, tailset, wonderful movement, correct lay back, attitude, showmanship and a great coat. Don't always get it, as there is no perfect dog, so therefore we keep breeding.

Originally Posted by zoeybear (Post 1286557)

I love Marcels little face. My favorite story on YT is about how Marcel requires his food "fluffed"!