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Emmsmom · 07-10-2007, 11:47 AM

One of the studs looks like he has a bit of a roach back. Also in some of the pictures the pups look like they are loosing hair on their noses.

Just curious why is the dirt and rock a breeding place for coccidia? We live on the side of a mountain and our back yard is nothing but huge rocks and dirt. Plus a lot of trees. Diesel LOVES playing in the dirt.

Mardelin · 07-10-2007, 11:56 AM

Dirt is a breeding ground for parasites.

Gingergirlsmom · 07-10-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tegamom1

Just found this site http://www.dandieyorkies.com/index.html that came up when I was looking for something else. Thought I might advise people to please avoid places like this. 21 mommies and the poor looking little studs... Really now.....JMO

I only count 14 mommies. Most have more than one picture posted...

JiggityJig · 07-10-2007, 12:33 PM

I think her dogs are very cute, though obviously very much "pet quality". Yes, there's a lot of them....but they look well-kept and happy.

Very over-priced though. I know it's controversial, but I personally don't have a problem with people raising non-show-quality dogs, and offering them for cheaper pet prices. I DO have a problem with them asking top dollar for dogs that aren't top-notch.

Mardelin · 07-10-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JiggityJig

I think her dogs are very cute, though obviously very much "pet quality". Yes, there's a lot of them....but they look well-kept and happy.

Very over-priced though. I know it's controversial, but I personally don't have a problem with people raising non-show-quality dogs, and offering them for cheaper pet prices. I DO have a problem with them asking top dollar for dogs that aren't top-notch.

As breeders we should all be striving to breed the best, pet or show.

tegamom1 · 07-10-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

I only count 14 mommies. Most have more than one picture posted...

14 or 40. The problems are still the same as mentioned before by several reputable breeders and exhibitors.

Mardelin · 07-10-2007, 01:06 PM

Can I clear something up here. The big name kennels have as many as this website. But, they are professional breeders, how do you think they have as many champions as they do. They have the great stock to breed the finest quality. The difference is, they are professionals, with a full time staff and do it for the love of their breed. Their dogs are maintained in state of the art kennels, with wonderful yards, excersized, conditioned , proper nutrition, and wonderful medical care.

CO_yorkie_momma · 07-10-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

I only count 14 mommies. Most have more than one picture posted...

LOL...that is how many I counted to. Someone else counted them and got a different number so I dont know.

Emmsmom · 07-10-2007, 01:15 PM

In my eyes there is no way to avoid coccidia other than to keep them under lock and key.

That is something I can't do. Diesel is my baby but he also LOVES being a dog at times too.

THis is one reason why I don't breed. I think he would be just miserable not being able torun and play and get dirty. He is all boy what can I say.

tegamom1 · 07-10-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

Can I clear something up here. The big name kennels have as many as this website. But, they are professional breeders, how do you think they have as many champions as they do. They have the great stock to breed the finest quality. The difference is, they are professionals, with a full time staff and do it for the love of their breed. Their dogs are maintained in state of the art kennels, with wonderful yards, excersized, conditioned , proper nutrition, and wonderful medical care.

Thank you. That's the point I was trying to make, but you always do it so much better. That's why you're such a valuable mentor (and friend).

Mardelin · 07-10-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Emmsmom

In my eyes there is no way to avoid coccidia other than to keep them under lock and key.

That is something I can't do. Diesel is my baby but he also LOVES being a dog at times too.

THis is one reason why I don't breed. I think he would be just miserable not being able torun and play and get dirty. He is all boy what can I say.

I'm a breeder/exhibitor and yet to have a case of giardia, coccidia or any other parasite...My dogs are kept in a clean environment and allowed to be dogs.

tegamom1 · 07-10-2007, 01:29 PM

I have a rescue Greyhound in my back yard that runs and plays. Fancy gets to go out some also. We just have to constantly keep everything cleaned and sprayed and haven't had any problems either. I might add tho, she is never left unattended. Much too small and too many things can happen and too many cases of "dognapping". CJ, doesn't go out since his coat has to be protected for the ring, but he has a heck of a good time running and playing and tormenting Fancy in the house.

CO_yorkie_momma · 07-10-2007, 01:31 PM

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You can have all the Champions (and I'm not directing this at your breeding CO Momma)....in a bloodline, but if you as a breeder don't know what you are doing when breeding, and just using the Champions as a selling ploy to the unsuspecting public, then those Champions doin't really mean anything.

In other words "It's not only what you have it's what you do with it" I've seen too many BYBers get a hold of a great bloodline through the backdoor and screw it up royally because they haven't studied breeding/genetics, etc. and all they wanted to do was breed to sell and not improve.

I completely understand your point you are making. It is just my opinion that if you pay the extra money to try and get quality dogs with numerous champions then you shouldnt have to feel guilty about advertising that or charging more for the puppies. You cant expect to buy a LandRover and pay a Kia price for it. (Not saying mine are Landrovers, it is just an analogy in general.)

Jan L. · 07-10-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

As breeders we should all be striving to breed the best, pet or show.

AMEN.

I went to the puppymill site & can not stop crying.

Mardelin · 07-10-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

I completely understand your point you are making. It is just my opinion that if you pay the extra money to try and get quality dogs with numerous champions then you shouldnt have to feel guilty about advertising that or charging more for the puppies. You cant expect to buy a LandRover and pay a Kia price for it. (Not saying mine are Landrovers, it is just an analogy in general.)

I understand what you are saying, but I am amazed being an exhibitor/breeder that doesn't advertise, seeing that some of these breeder's fees are astronomically higher than breeder/exhibitor's fees.

07-10-2007, 11:47 AM	#16
Emmsmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 989	One of the studs looks like he has a bit of a roach back. Also in some of the pictures the pups look like they are loosing hair on their noses. Just curious why is the dirt and rock a breeding place for coccidia? We live on the side of a mountain and our back yard is nothing but huge rocks and dirt. Plus a lot of trees. Diesel LOVES playing in the dirt. __________________ MICHELLE DIESEL "The Weasel" and little brother TUCKER

07-10-2007, 11:56 AM	#17
Mardelin Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 14,776	Dirt is a breeding ground for parasites. __________________ Mardelin *Yorkshire* *Terriers* Last edited by Mardelin; 07-10-2007 at 11:58 AM.

07-10-2007, 12:33 PM	#19
JiggityJig YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,226	I think her dogs are very cute, though obviously very much "pet quality". Yes, there's a lot of them....but they look well-kept and happy. Very over-priced though. I know it's controversial, but I personally don't have a problem with people raising non-show-quality dogs, and offering them for cheaper pet prices. I DO have a problem with them asking top dollar for dogs that aren't top-notch. __________________ OUR HEARTS KIKI MAZIE JIMBOB ELFIE OUR JOYS

07-10-2007, 01:06 PM	#22
Mardelin Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 14,776	Can I clear something up here. The big name kennels have as many as this website. But, they are professional breeders, how do you think they have as many champions as they do. They have the great stock to breed the finest quality. The difference is, they are professionals, with a full time staff and do it for the love of their breed. Their dogs are maintained in state of the art kennels, with wonderful yards, excersized, conditioned , proper nutrition, and wonderful medical care. __________________ Mardelin *Yorkshire* *Terriers*

07-10-2007, 01:15 PM	#24
Emmsmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 989	In my eyes there is no way to avoid coccidia other than to keep them under lock and key. That is something I can't do. Diesel is my baby but he also LOVES being a dog at times too. THis is one reason why I don't breed. I think he would be just miserable not being able torun and play and get dirty. He is all boy what can I say. __________________ MICHELLE DIESEL "The Weasel" and little brother TUCKER

07-10-2007, 01:29 PM	#27
tegamom1 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 1,548	I have a rescue Greyhound in my back yard that runs and plays. Fancy gets to go out some also. We just have to constantly keep everything cleaned and sprayed and haven't had any problems either. I might add tho, she is never left unattended. Much too small and too many things can happen and too many cases of "dognapping". CJ, doesn't go out since his coat has to be protected for the ring, but he has a heck of a good time running and playing and tormenting Fancy in the house. __________________ Mary Ann A'Lea Yorkshire Terriers