Green fluid during birth? My friend just got home and said her dog has had 3 out of 4 puppies, the largest one was dead, the other two seem fine. The vet had hoped the larger one would be the last one born after looking at the x-ray but it wasn't. Anyway, she said there was some green fluid on the mom's legs, is this something to be concerned about? |
Green fluid can mean that the placentas separated early. |
and that can be serious. Have her call a vet!! |
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Third puppy born okay, she was due Saturday, so she was 3 days early. I guess the big puppy was 2-3 times bigger than the others. She called the vet and they said the fluid was normal at this time, but if it were showing and the puppies weren't being delivered it would be early separation of the placenta, just as you said. Thank you for your response! I really appreciate it. |
Oops - I meant the 4th puppy was born okay. Mom and the 3 remaining puppies are all doing good. You all are great! Thanks. |
the green was probably from the dead puppy. if you see green fluid prior to the birth, the placenta had separted and usually the puppy is dead. now it happened to me after the puppies were presented but this meant that the placenta had separated and if she did not have the next puppy for an hour, it would have probably died. she needs to have the mommy go to the vet and get an oxy shot right a way. with this, sometimes there is a retained placenta in her (or parts of one) |
The green fluid is called lochia and is perfectly normal during the whelping process but not a good sign if presented early. |
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im glad you cleared that up b/c i saw a dvd on whelping and i was also wondering b/c alot of breeders said green fluis is not good. im glad to hear that is ok during whelping. |
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Just be aware that it is NOT OKAY in a lot of cases. let me tell you my green fluid story. My bitch went into labor at 59 days. The first sign was her having a whole bed full of green liquid. Like when water breaks only it was a dark green. No lochia was present. I knew something was wrong already, I changed her bedding, same thing again. Lots of it. Then she started vomiting huge amounts of the same bile colored liquid. i rushed her to the vet about half an hour after all this. One puppy, the one in front was already dead. mom almost died. had a c-section to save the other puppy and of course mom was spayed. so before you consider all green as normal, make sure you know what you are looking at. Now that would get the heart pumping right off the bat. Green before a first pup is usually NOT okay.I have a little story also. Female started labor all was normal presented a sack kept pushing no pup,then she was pushing on her back! I knew something was not right for I have never seen them push in that position,called the vet took her over and all contractions stopped,a shot of oxy was given and contractions resumed he checked her and could feel nothing then out popped another sack,he said what the .... checked her again and out popped ANOTHER sack.Then a bunch of green fluid.(my heart sank for I knew it would not be good). He knew she needed a section then and fast before we lost them.We ended up with 6 pups(x-ray showed 5) all were okay we could not belive it.The last pup was sideways in the horn something he had not seen before ,that first pup blocked the train for the rest.We thought for sure we were going to loose a pup or more with all that green fluid but was very lucky.Everyone was okay 4 girls and 2 boys and momma did wonderful. Having pups can be very nerve racking at times. |
Very good information to know. Thanks everyone. |
Green fluid is normal, what you must be aware of is foul oder. Tami, you are correct if occurs prior to the delivery of the 1st pup it is a sign that there is a problem. |
Well, mine was copious amounts of dark green water. I also was told by breeders on here during that time that it was normal and if I hadn't trusted my gut instinct, my bitch would have been dead so i stand by what I said in that not all green before a delivery is normal. mine had no foul odor and after passing all the green from her bottom, she vomited about half a cup full twice. I had no sac visiable or anything. her whole bed was soaked (twice) not counting the vomit. I'm not trying to dispute Tami or mardelin either one, just telling my experience and sorry if it doesn't agree with theirs. |
green Sugars mom ..Your experience was very different from a normal, green fluid that presents during and after some whelpings..your bitch showed others symtoms of needing the vet as you did...green is the breakdown of the blood decomposing. I find a shot of oxyie after whelping cleans the bitch out and mine rarely have anything more then a few days of spotting after a litter. Best os luck |
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green This is where experience is golden. Experienced breeders can sense a problem by looking at the color/amount/odor/ thickness and know what is what.. Few have ever regretted checking with a vet knowledgable in breeding, but many have regretted not checking with them... |
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POP shot within 12-24 hours after whelping is the best. I've found that I have had blackish/greenish discharge after all is done....but, when I told my breeder what I was seeing, she said that even though a I'd given a POP shot that I may have left a placenta in. She told me to gently insert a Q-tip and turn it gently and I'd probably wrap the placenta around it....I did and out it popped. |
I have never heard the Qtip thing. Our green fluid was thicker and not very watery that made my heart start pumping.I have never had a bitch push on her back (horses will while rolling trying to get baby in position) I knew when I seen her do that something was not right. My vet said he has never seen them push while laying on their back either. I always go with my gut even if my vet thinks all is okay on the phone I will take them over if I do not feel good about something. Time is of the essance with these guys ,problems need to be corrected promtly for the saftey of the bitch and pups. |
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My breeder/mentor is one of the top yorkie breeders in the country, been breeding and exhibiting, finishing over 100 champions herself since 1972. We both have the same vet. While whelping a litter I encountered a small problem delivering a pup....I was getting ready to have hubby call vet, but he called my breeder what she told me to do worked. The next morning I contacted my vet to tell him about the litter, what I encountered and that I avoided calling him in the middle of the night, but called my breeder. His answer was that I had done the right thing and that my breeder had delivered more pups than he probably would in his career. |
I admit that I know nothing about breeding dogs but in humans a green fluid during labor and delivery is called meconium stained fluid and it means that the baby has had a bowl movement inside the mother (this is not supposed to happen). Meconium is the first stool and it is black tarry and it turns the amniotic fluid green. Ususally this happens because at some point the baby was in distress and lacking oxygen. It poses a threat if the baby inhales the meconium into the lungs. Could this green fluid in dogs be meconium too? |
My breeder/mentor is one of the top yorkie breeders in the country, been breeding and exhibiting, finishing over 100 champions herself since 1972. We both have the same vet. While whelping a litter I encountered a small problem delivering a pup....I was getting ready to have hubby call vet, but he called my breeder what she told me to do worked. The next morning I contacted my vet to tell him about the litter, what I encountered and that I avoided calling him in the middle of the night, but called my breeder. His answer was that I had done the right thing and that my breeder had delivered more pups than he probably would in his career. I have the most wonderful lady who helps me.She is so far away I would have to fly to see her,or drive 24 hours. I have encounterd problems with our yorkies and gone to my vet and he has asked me did you call that lady for I would like to know what she thinks. I have a great vet who is only 10 min away.I have never taken a female over for me just being worried and had a false alarm with nothing wrong.My vet and my helper have both helped me over the phone also .But in an emergency I call him on the way to his office. Great for you to have so much experiance helping you! |
where do you breeders get your oxi shot from? the vets? are they willing to just give it to you or do they normally want you to take the bitch into the office to be seen? |
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I am glad that we have been presented with two different views of what the green fluid is and if it is normal or something to worry about. I have noticed it in all my deliveries (not that I have had alot) but I am glad Sugars Moms told her story so I would not automatically think it was normal in all situations and have a better understanding of what to look for. Thanks guys. I like hearing all of the differents views and experiences. Knowledge is wealth and unfortunately you dont always get all of the knowledge with only the good experiences or what happens in a normal delivery. IT is good to learn what the signs of trouble are too. |
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my mentor's vet gives her the oxy and tells her to use 1/4 cc every half hour up to three (I think). But someone called me yesterday and her vet told her to give 1/2cc at a time. So until I get a new vet that knows what he is doing, I am not even going to try giving my own. |
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My vet is very breeder friendly and will dispense premeasured injections. However, after working with him and his knowing who my breeder/mentor is, he has given me a prescription for it. |
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