to breed or not to breed

[char7]

Originally Posted by vivi

I know that definitely there is always risks but guys, don't you think that you are extremely dramatic. My goal is not to be a breeder or try to make a business. I only want to breed my yorkie once. I want to keep the pups if I get one or two. If there is more, I have family with good homes, dog lovers. That is not the point. My female is 5 pounds, she is in good shape and without congenital problems. Her temperament is excelent. My vet who checks her regularly didn't found nothing to worry about. I can't guess how good mother she will be.
If we all think like that even us human beings never get pregnated, because we can die or loose the newborn or become sterile or have a baby with many health issues. I think that everything you do in your life has a risk. BUT THE NATURE HAS HIS LAST WORD.

[vivi]

Originally Posted by char7

THANK YOU

[vivi]

Originally Posted by char7

vivi,

Only you and your vet can determine if it is ok to breed her.


BTW, if it were up to a few people on this site, there would be no Yorkie breeders because in their eyes, no one can do it up to their "standards".







.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU: THERE WOULD NOT BE YORKIES AT ALL BECAUSE EVEN THE MOST EXPERIENCED BREEDERS CAN FIND THE SAME PROBLEMS thumbup:

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by vivi

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU: THERE WOULD NOT BE YORKIES AT ALL BECAUSE EVEN THE MOST EXPERIENCED BREEDERS CAN FIND THE SAME PROBLEMS thumbup:

There is no drama, just information passed on. All which are things that can and have happened to even the most experienced breeders. You alone can make the decision...and what people are saying to you is just be prepared. And yes, you can lose your girl in the process and the puppies as well.


I assisted my mentor, who has been breeding for 38 years, with whelping litters. What was amazing while watching her through the whole process, is her ability to know the danger signs. I watched her milk down a puppy that was too high in the birth canal, turn a puppy that was breech.....would I have known how to do all that with my first litter, had I not assisted her, NO....all these things she did and others saved puppies lives. She knew when to administer medication to help mom with contractions, and when to take a dam in for a C-section She does this automatically, because of her years of experience and the training she received from her mentor. And I've also watched her cry when things didn't go right and she has lost a puppy.

[Ladyhawk]

What we're saying is that education can be your best friend, learn before you begin this adventure. Whether you are breeding one litter or a dozen, do it with excellence, strive to improve the breed.
Hey Mary, I want to learn to milk a pup down the birth canal, I've seen vets who won't even do that. I'll continue to search for a mentor as knowledgable as yours. Shame you don't live closer.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

What we're saying is that education can be your best friend, learn before you begin this adventure. Whether you are breeding one litter or a dozen, do it with excellence, strive to improve the breed.
Hey Mary, I want to learn to milk a pup down the birth canal, I've seen vets who won't even do that. I'll continue to search for a mentor as knowledgable as yours. Shame you don't live closer.

I just marvel at what my mentor knows. Watching her in action is amazing, a calm comes over her, she positions herself at one end of the whelping pen, a standing mirror at the other end, and watches the bitch from every angle....knows when things look wierd and get into action. She was mentored by a few vets, and some great breeders that are no longer with us.

[Ladyhawk]

Wow I would love to see her in action! Skill like that is priceless and the knowledge that goes hand in hand with it, worth a million bucks! I'll see you Friday!
First time in NY and I'm so excited, can you tell?!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Wow I would love to see her in action! Skill like that is priceless and the knowledge that goes hand in hand with it, worth a million bucks! I'll see you Friday!
First time in NY and I'm so excited, can you tell?!

Puppy Bitches don't show until 10:30....I'm only showing Tahlulah in Sweeps. Rainey will show on Saturday and Sunday.

Too bad you weren't coming in earlier....we're doing shopping on Canal Street on Thursday. Macy's is right down the street from the hotel...everything, is pretty close walking distance.

Mary

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Wow I would love to see her in action! Skill like that is priceless and the knowledge that goes hand in hand with it, worth a million bucks! I'll see you Friday!
First time in NY and I'm so excited, can you tell?!

You will get to meet her, she's coming with me.....78 year old, lil gruff woman.....

[char7]

Hope you all have a great time and can't wait to see you there.

[trini&coco]

Originally Posted by char7

vivi,

Only you and your vet can determine if it is ok to breed her.


BTW, if it were up to a few people on this site, there would be no Yorkie breeders because in their eyes, no one can do it up to their "standards".







.

That is not true and I can not believe that was said. I am a new breeder and found that people on here have been overall supportive. When my female went into labor, this past Thanksgiving 7:00pm and had copmplications, nobody was there for me except for a YorkieTalk member. She knew it was my first litter and stayed online with me for about 3 hours!!! I ended up having to take her to the hospital and pay over $2,000 in vet bills for a c-section and 2 of the 4 pups did not make it!!! It does happen and breeding is not always easy. You just have to be prepared. The scariest thing for me that night was the possibility of loosing my Trini.

People are not saying not to breed (I can not speak for all, but most) just to be well informed of all the possibilities good, and bad and if you can except both and educate yourself well and want to be a breeder that's up to you. To most pet owners that do not know the work involved and the risks, reading what was posted gives a reality check and they do not want to take the chances with their babies. To others, it is a chance they want to take to forefil (spelling?) a passion.

[char7]

Originally Posted by trini&coco

That is not true and I can not believe that was said. I am a new breeder and found that people on here have been overall supportive. When my female went into labor, this past Thanksgiving 7:00pm and had copmplications, nobody was there for me except for a YorkieTalk member. She knew it was my first litter and stayed online with me for about 3 hours!!! I ended up having to take her to the hospital and pay over $2,000 in vet bills for a c-section and 2 of the 4 pups did not make it!!! It does happen and breeding is not always easy. You just have to be prepared. The scariest thing for me that night was the possibility of loosing my Trini.

People are not saying not to breed (I can not speak for all, but most) just to be well informed of all the possibilities good, and bad and if you can except both and educate yourself well and want to be a breeder that's up to you. To most pet owners that do not know the work involved and the risks, reading what was posted gives a reality check and they do not want to take the chances with their babies. To others, it is a chance they want to take to forefil (spelling?) a passion.

First of all, congratulations on finding someone that was willing to help you rather than criticize you. There are some very knowledgeable and supportive people here.

Research the forum and see how many people get attacked instead of helped when asking a question about breeding, pregnancy, birthing, etc. My reason for reading this board is to gain knowledge from the people that ARE willing to give good advice and share knowledge, instead of criticize and bash.

I orginally came on this board asking a question about breeding and got attacked. I stuck it out and learned how to filter out the junk. I've been on here for a while now, have gotten great advice, especially when I had a very large pregnant mom. I was totally supported.

However, all I have been seeing lately is attacks by a select few on people who breed or who want to breed. It's one thing to bring up valid points, it's another to drive them down peoples throats

As I said, research the forum and you will see what I am talking about. I think this is a great place, but the judgement and criticism on breeding has gotten out of hand IMHO.

[vivi]

Originally Posted by char7

First of all, congratulations on finding someone that was willing to help you rather than criticize you. There are some very knowledgeable and supportive people here.

Research the forum and see how many people get attacked instead of helped when asking a question about breeding, pregnancy, birthing, etc. My reason for reading this board is to gain knowledge from the people that ARE willing to give good advice and share knowledge, instead of criticize and bash.

I orginally came on this board asking a question about breeding and got attacked. I stuck it out and learned how to filter out the junk. I've been on here for a while now, have gotten great advice, especially when I had a very large pregnant mom. I was totally supported.

However, all I have been seeing lately is attacks by a select few on people who breed or who want to breed. It's one thing to bring up valid points, it's another to drive them down peoples throats

As I said, research the forum and you will see what I am talking about. I think this is a great place, but the judgement and criticism on breeding has gotten out of hand IMHO.

SORRY TO HAVE BEGIN THIS FIGHT. IT'S BETTER TO READ BOOKS.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by vivi

SORRY TO HAVE BEGIN THIS FIGHT. IT'S BETTER TO READ BOOKS.

You didn't start a thing, Vivi. There really is some info here that is probably better than books. But sometimes you do have to use a filter. Some of the posts may sound like "shock treatment" but once they all see a person is really trying to learn to do this right and is making educated decisions, they lighten up a bit. There are some great sources of information here -- it's a resource I plan to draw from for a long time to come.

I want to breed my two some day if all goes well. I figure it will take me the next year just to learn enough to be a novice. I will use every tool I can to get ready -- books, mentors, forums, internet reference material, you name it!

[Diego]

Originally Posted by vivi

I know that definitely there is always risks but guys, don't you think that you are extremely dramatic. My goal is not to be a breeder or try to make a business. I only want to breed my yorkie once. I want to keep the pups if I get one or two. If there is more, I have family with good homes, dog lovers. That is not the point. My female is 5 pounds, she is in good shape and without congenital problems. Her temperament is excelent. My vet who checks her regularly didn't found nothing to worry about. I can't guess how good mother she will be.
If we all think like that even us human beings never get pregnated, because we can die or loose the newborn or become sterile or have a baby with many health issues. I think that everything you do in your life has a risk. BUT THE NATURE HAS HIS LAST WORD.

The minute you have a litter of puppies at home , you are a breeder .