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JeanieK 01-21-2007 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies
They shouldnt be afraid at all. I tell people your deposit is fully refundable. In rare instances I would keep a portion of the deposit, such as keeping a puppy for an extended period of time because they will not prepare for a pick up date. SO maybe they are afraid I would keep it, since they have put off getting the puppy, avoided phone calls and then failed to show up the day of pick up. Heck if someone came to pick up their puppy and they werent happy I would give their deposit back. But if people start out with a problem to commit, and then come up with excuses not to come the day of pick up, then say Ill call sometime next week, arent prepared for the dog at all, I feel are stringing me along, not to count what kind of owners they will probably be.
Im going to send all their deposit back. I wont be keeping one penny. I am under no obligation to sell to people I dont feel good about, and where would they have a case at all? I reserve the right to return a deposit for my own reasons. I have valid concerns and am not selling to them. SO they can sue me.

I didn't mean to rile you. I don't blame your for changing your mind. I'm just saying by accepting the check, you formed a contract, agreeing to hold this puppy for them and not to sell it to anyone else. So if they wanted to be nasty about it they would have a pretty strong case.

I agree with you, I wouldn't want to sell it to them either. But courts tend not to see things as black and white. There is a lot of grey inbetween.

If I gave a deposit to someone for a puppy, and I have, i would be extremely upset if they turned around and said they changed their mind. What else is the deposit for if not to make the contract binding.

bettyeanne 01-21-2007 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies
Thats what Ill do.
I hate to call to tell them I have changed my mind even though they aggravated the hell out of me today. I wont keep any of the deposit just send it all back and find a home I feel comfortable for my puppy.
No Contract other then I state I reserve the right to return a deposit for my own reasons.
If I read all this thread and understood correctly .... "you reserve the right to return a deposit for my own reasons"? That should be the end of it ... you did change your mind for several very valid reasons, the least of which you are worried about the welfare of your pup! 'Nuff said!!

I am glad you decided to keep your pup and wait for a suitable home. From what I read it doesn't sound like they are financially able/committed to care for a Yorkie. I believe you acted in the best interest of the pup!! Congratulations and now you can sleep peacefully!!! ;)

Peters 01-21-2007 07:48 AM
return their deposit and tell them you don't have time for someone who doesn't have time for a puppy. the poor dog would surely suffer if they can't even take time to get supplies and get her i think your feelings are right...or you could just tell them you decided to keep her for yourself.

JESSY_RN2B 01-21-2007 07:55 AM
I agree with everyone else.........
 
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You know I dont expect people to go all foo foo over puppies, meaning buying clothes, designer carriers....some people just arent like that. Its cool if they are, but its the other stuff that really counts. Like buying the essentials needed to care for the dog to prepare, at least checking once to see how the pup is. If you dont do that is certainly is a reflection to me of what kind of life a puppy will have. Lucky to eat, lucky to get a pat on the head.

Kelly, in all honesty, I don't think they were ready for this pup. I am sure there are other homes who are ;)

Bobbi, may need a sister soon.............and guess where I am coming to? (Well, if you still consider me of course) :p

P.S. I was so freaken excited before I got Bobbi. I had a laundry list of stuff.........I must have driven you nuts with all my questions.......right? :eek: :D

Hugs,

Jess

luvdorkyyorkies 01-21-2007 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK
I didn't mean to rile you. I don't blame your for changing your mind. I'm just saying by accepting the check, you formed a contract, agreeing to hold this puppy for them and not to sell it to anyone else. So if they wanted to be nasty about it they would have a pretty strong case.

I agree with you, I wouldn't want to sell it to them either. But courts tend not to see things as black and white. There is a lot of grey inbetween.

If I gave a deposit to someone for a puppy, and I have, i would be extremely upset if they turned around and said they changed their mind. What else is the deposit for if not to make the contract binding.
:) I might sound riled but Im just feeling strongly about the situation. I dont look forward to being the big ol meanie by any means!!
ANd I appreciate the view, it makes me think. Ive never did this before. I dont make a habit of disappointing people. THey might be afraid to ask for the deposit, or even releived in the long run, even though they said dont sell the puppy.
I dont have a formal contract but an angel must have been sitting on my shoulder because I looked thru my emails and I stated the deposit term in writing which I stated I could return the deposit for any reason to them, which I rarely do, usually I just say it verbal. So maybe that would be good enough because they agreed to those terms when they replied with "we are sending a deposit. "
I think they might be mad at me, but I dont think they will try to sue me. I think they might just move on to buy from someone else. But who knows!


ANd jessica Miss RN, when your ready let me know you will get the best deal in town girlfriend!:D YOu stinker. Thanks. Oh ANd I love the pictures! ANd yes you still drive me coo coo! BUt you know I love it!

Sugar's Mom 01-21-2007 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK
Sionce you were the one that changed your mind, it would not be ethical to keep part of the deposit.

To be honest, I believe they would have a case if they refused to accept the returned deposit and insisted on the puppy. So you will be lucky if they take back the deposit and walk away happy.

They might be realizing that this was not a good idea but are afraid to tell you they changed their minds for fear you will keep the deposit.
i don't think they would have a case even with a check because it should have been picked up at a reasonable length of time and she has made every effort to give it to them.

Breny 01-21-2007 10:01 AM
I'm just checking in. Were you able to get in touch with them yet to tell them?

I didn't know Bobbi was one of yours! How cool was that??!!! And he was a singleton too????

prettypuppypink 01-21-2007 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B
Kelly, in all honesty, I don't think they were ready for this pup. I am sure there are other homes who are ;)

Bobbi, may need a sister soon.............and guess where I am coming to? (Well, if you still consider me of course) :p

P.S. I was so freaken excited before I got Bobbi. I had a laundry list of stuff.........I must have driven you nuts with all my questions.......right? :eek: :D

Hugs,

Jess
OMG, Bobbi is so cute! I'm the same way with my dogs. I treat them like they were my kids. When my sons were born a long time ago, didn't have money for extras for them until they were a little older. I missed buying that frilly stuff when they were born. They still claim I wanted to dress them like girls. I spoil my dogs like you do.

doortego 01-21-2007 11:14 AM
I don't think they have a leg to stand on either. Refund the money & be done with them.:)

JESSY_RN2B 01-21-2007 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by prettypuppypink
OMG, Bobbi is so cute! I'm the same way with my dogs. I treat them like they were my kids. When my sons were born a long time ago, didn't have money for extras for them until they were a little older. I missed buying that frilly stuff when they were born. They still claim I wanted to dress them like girls. I spoil my dogs like you do.
DH and I have no skin children yet............so imagine how spoiled they are :D

I grew up in foster care.........

Maybe sometimes I am over-protective.........but it makes me happy to be able to give them all my love. I am a true believer that God put them here to humble us humans and to me, they are nothing but Lord's special gift ;)

JESSY_RN2B 01-21-2007 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Breny
I'm just checking in. Were you able to get in touch with them yet to tell them?

I didn't know Bobbi was one of yours! How cool was that??!!! And he was a singleton too????
Yes, Bobbi is from Kelly Anderson's breeding. I have nothing but marvelous things to say about her. Bobbi is super healthy, well-socialized, and just perfect :D

Bobbi was a singleton............what a lucky fella :)

Monday 01-21-2007 11:37 AM
doing whatz right ... for your pup
 
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Originally Posted by Peters
return their deposit and tell them you don't have time for someone who doesn't have time for a puppy. the poor dog would surely suffer if they can't even take time to get supplies and get her i think your feelings are right...or you could just tell them you decided to keep her for yourself.
I agree with Peters .... you want your pup to be in the best home possible ....

Send the letter and CHECK... RRR and signed ... you will also have the deposited check as proof of acceptance ...

luvdorkyyorkies 01-21-2007 11:38 AM
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NO Havent called yet:rolleyes: Havent got up the nerve yet but I will. Ill let ya know if I get a good cussing.

Been taking pictures of lil girl to show. THought Id share. SHes very sweet, weighs 2 lbs 12 ozs at 13 weeks. SHe isnt AKC registered, this litter was CKC (continental kennel club) Dad is AKC but mom isnt.
THought Id let you see the heart stealer. Theres lots of pictures.

Paisleypup 01-21-2007 11:39 AM
That is unfortunate, but I agree with your decision to return the deposit and be done with it. For the future, I think it should have been a 'red flag' to you when YOU made the phone calls to stay in touch with them. That should never be necessary for any breeder to have to 'go to' the customer. If they don't call or e-mail you regularly, then assume that they are not really that interested and go elsewhere immediately!

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