pedigree help

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

The tribute was lovely. My Champion Charmer is out of Johnnie's son "Ch. Pastoral The Blues Are Back"

Does anyone have a copy of the tribute they could post?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

Does anyone have a copy of the tribute they could post?

I'm not sure if that is legal....I'll check and see what issue it was in and let you know.

I know that Paige Nix (owner of the YT Magazine) requested from several Top Breeders to submit photos of their dogs that were sired by Johnnie.

[Amber_lv]

Originally Posted by yorkykisses

Durrer is out of Canada. Durrer is one of the top lines and Betty Anne Durrer is one of the top show exhibitors. Her line is all over the country with alot of show exhibitors. I believe almost all of your Hungarian show exhibitor have the Durrer line in their pedigrees.

Wow kinda nice to have that in his pedigree

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

I was looking at this adorable little boy and they mentioned some names that were in his 5 generation pedigree. There was Shakespeares, Pastoral, TLC's, and Renmar. I heard of TLC and I think I have heard of the others but not sure. Has anyone heard of them?? Are they a good line??
Thanks for any info can help me out with out!!

I read through this thread but you haven't mentioned the kennel you are actually buying from. That is important in your decision whether or not to purchase this puppy, not just the pedigree.
Are they reputable show kennel themselves? Where are they? Canada US Europe? You want to be very careful particularly if you are dealing with European breeders.
I am not saying this has happened in this case but you still have to be careful. Unless you know how these lines, Pastoral, Durrer, etc got into the pedigree, you don't really know if the person you are buying from is reputable or not.

[CO_yorkie_momma]

I wonder who has sired the most champions, Pastoral Johnny Handsome or Rothby's Renee'Gade? Anybody know?

[Amber_lv]

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

I wonder who has sired the most champions, Pastoral Johnny Handsome or Rothby's Renee'Gade? Anybody know?

Good to see you on today!!

[CO_yorkie_momma]

Thanks Amber. I sneek on when the boss isnt looking a couple times a day.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

I wonder who has sired the most champions, Pastoral Johnny Handsome or Rothby's Renee'Gade? Anybody know?

i don't know the answer but my little new male also has Rothby's Renee'Gade in his pedigree. In fact, that is going to be part of his namee. Lashire's Lil' Renee'Gade of Dee's (if AKC and UKc accepts it) Mr. Smith, my breeder of the Lashire Kennel thinks it will go right through. I am going to have so much fun looing up all these dogs when I get my little guy.

[yorkykisses]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

I read through this thread but you haven't mentioned the kennel you are actually buying from. That is important in your decision whether or not to purchase this puppy, not just the pedigree.
Are they reputable show kennel themselves? Where are they? Canada US Europe? You want to be very careful particularly if you are dealing with European breeders.
I am not saying this has happened in this case but you still have to be careful. Unless you know how these lines, Pastoral, Durrer, etc got into the pedigree, you don't really know if the person you are buying from is reputable or not.

Lorraine is absolutely right! If the breeder is not reputable you have no idea if the pedigree is true. I personally have known of a few cases where the owner of a champion in a pedigree has contacted AKC and stated the pedigree was not a valid one. So always protect yourself and make sure that you are dealing with someone that is honest above all else! I have known of breeders right here in the US that place papers on a puppy/litter because of a nicer pedigree, but if the puppies were DNA the pedigree would not match.

[yorkykisses]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

i don't know the answer but my little new male also has Rothby's Renee'Gade in his pedigree. In fact, that is going to be part of his namee. Lashire's Lil' Renee'Gade of Dee's (if AKC and UKc accepts it) Mr. Smith, my breeder of the Lashire Kennel thinks it will go right through. I am going to have so much fun looing up all these dogs when I get my little guy.

Gator sired many many champions, I do not know the proper number at this time. You will find Gator is many pedigrees throughout the country.

[yorkykisses]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

i don't know the answer but my little new male also has Rothby's Renee'Gade in his pedigree. In fact, that is going to be part of his namee. Lashire's Lil' Renee'Gade of Dee's (if AKC and UKc accepts it) Mr. Smith, my breeder of the Lashire Kennel thinks it will go right through. I am going to have so much fun looing up all these dogs when I get my little guy.

The boy you have coming from Larry Smith/Lashire Kennels who is he out of?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

I wonder who has sired the most champions, Pastoral Johnny Handsome or Rothby's Renee'Gade? Anybody know?

I think Johnny has, 66 Champions in the US alone, that's not counting Canada and other parts of the World. Rothby's Reputation as of Dec 05 - Jan 06 has sired 28....I'm sure there are more.....

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by yorkykisses

Gator sired many many champions, I do not know the proper number at this time. You will find Gator is many pedigrees throughout the country.

he must have been quite a guy. Like that one, Burgandy's Wee Muffin Man. I think he slept with every bitch in the country. LOL he is on every pedigree I have ever seen.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

he must have been quite a guy. Like that one, Burgandy's Wee Muffin Man. I think he slept with every bitch in the country. LOL he is on every pedigree I have ever seen.

Never heard of the Burgandy line......

[Olivier]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Never heard of the Burgandy line......

Burgundy is owned by Janice Lotze .