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ajendas · 10-26-2006, 10:55 AM

Sorry I forgot to post one more thing ... if Kelly (luvdorkyyorkies) was misinformed and deceived by the broker and Jennifer Patti is truly innocent, I have no doubt that Kelly will contact her and apologize.

Okay, JCarlson, now HOW did I become involved in this issue with Kelly? You continue to post the same thing to appease your friends, but you can't stand on the foundation they left for you to defend.

Let me reiterate:

1) I am NOT related to Fonda, I purchased dogs from her.

2) I don't know Kelly. I never collected money from her and I never spoke with her!

Kelly has no reason to apologize to me, she never once mentioned my name.
You, on the other hand, have continued to doubt who I am and how long I've been in Yorkies because I have a low post number next to my name.

I may not have as many posts on this board, but I have plenty more years, conformation/obedience/agility/rally titles (in 4 associations), and clients who can vouch my presence in the dog community.

Guess what? I'm new to the board. I was informed of this page because you, amongst others, have failed to read previous posts in their entirety. You continue to bring my name into this, despite my own invitation for you to personally email me, and statements from other HAPPY owners who show my dogs (including people who have never read this thread but still have praise for me on other threads on Yorkie Talk).

The people who you are defending, like I said in my first post, should be glad to have a devoted friend like you. I'd be honored if you actually read my posts, thought about it, and considered that I *might* be right.

But previous posters still can't answer two basic statements:

1) Show proof that I am related to Fonda
2) Show that I collected money from Kelly, brokered any deals between Fonda and Kelly, or that I even know Kelly outside this list

When you can show me either of those exist, I will personally call and apologize to you. Until then, it's not Kelly who owes me an apology.

If you STILL need proof of who I am, I'll be glad to furnish references from fellow handlers, judges, breeders, and exhibitors who have known me since I was a child.

I agree with you on one thing, this thread should be over by now.

I know the people on this board have a strong bond, but before you smear my name (when you have already admitted you don't know me), THINK about what you post and if you can BACK IT UP WITH FACT.

Thanks again for reading
Jennifer

JCarlson2004 · 10-26-2006, 11:02 AM

I am not going to continue with this childish back and forth banter -- especially when a total stranger is sarcastic to me and I've been completely nice. I've said my peace and that's enough.

luvdorkyyorkies · 10-26-2006, 11:59 AM

I havent been on here a couple days so I didnt see the updates on this thread.
What a mess.

I dont have a problem with agendayorkies. ANd Im very sorry if there was a mix up. But as you can see I have never posted about Jennifer and I do not know her. SHe has nothing to do with my situation and I would like to clear that up . I apolize Jennifer, that your name and yorkies were even mentioned in a thread/situation that you have had absolutely no involvement in or any wrong doing whatsoever.
The only mention of Jennifer was by another poster. Even if Jennifer was related to the breeder I have had a problem with, WHICH SHE ISNt!!!...........Why would I hold them responsbile for the wrongs of a relative??
I cant control what others write, I can only control or be responsible for what I do.
This thread was not complete and not a good post at all and I apolized for that . I have explained my situation on the Breeder Review thread, which was really where it should have been to begin with.
Jennifer again I apolize for negative things that were said by another, but please know I had nothing to do with it.

yorkieK9trainer · 10-26-2006, 12:16 PM

I must admit that I admire your presence on this forum and look forward to reading updates on how your Yorkie family progresses in the ring(s). I didn't see anything on your site personally that intreagued me, but to know that there is more behind you and your Yorkies than what I got a taste of on your site, I am impressed.
I look forward to reading from you again, hopefully on better terms. YT as you will see is a large family comprised of many people who will jump on a bandwagon simply because it seems like the thing to do. There are a few exceptional people on the site, but moreover that's really what YT seems to be about.
Take care!
~Leslie Wooldridge

feminvstr · 10-26-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr

Is this the breeder of the female you and your friend brought for me to look at?

Jennifer welcome to YT

this is the only thing that I know....YorkieGeorge "Carroll" and her friend "Corina" came to my home with an adult female you placed with Corina, or I was told it was from your kennel.

"Corina" is pet breeder that bought an adult female for breeding from you earlier this year...she had difficulty with her from moment she arrived because of her temperment, she would fight with her other dogs and afraid of humans, Corina was convenced she was raised in a cage and not socialized at all. This female could not be around other dogs or puppies, her personality just wasnt safe. She brought her to me, I saw this behavior first hand. Her tail would go clear up her back laying flat on her back when she was ready to bite another dog.

On a good note she couldnt get her to walk on a harness, I was able to leash break her in about 5 minutes.

This breeder decided she couldnt keep her fearing the safety of the other yorkies so I believe she did place her in another home.

TLC · 10-26-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr

Jennifer welcome to YT

this is the only thing that I know....YorkieGeorge "Carroll" and her friend "Corina" came to my home with an adult female you placed with Corina, or I was told it was from your kennel.

"Corina" is pet breeder that bought an adult female for breeding from you earlier this year...she had difficulty with her from moment she arrived because of her temperment, she would fight with her other dogs and afraid of humans, Corina was convenced she was raised in a cage and not socialized at all. This female could not be around other dogs or puppies, her personality just wasnt safe. She brought her to me, I saw this behavior first hand. Her tail would go clear up her back laying flat on her back when she was ready to bite another dog.

On a good note she couldnt get her to walk on a harness, I was able to leash break her in about 5 minutes.

This breeder decided she couldnt keep her fearing the safety of the other yorkies so I believe she did place her in another home.

WOW, how scarey...and sad...

JCarlson2004 · 10-26-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr

Jennifer welcome to YT

this is the only thing that I know....YorkieGeorge "Carroll" and her friend "Corina" came to my home with an adult female you placed with Corina, or I was told it was from your kennel.

"Corina" is pet breeder that bought an adult female for breeding from you earlier this year...she had difficulty with her from moment she arrived because of her temperment, she would fight with her other dogs and afraid of humans, Corina was convenced she was raised in a cage and not socialized at all. This female could not be around other dogs or puppies, her personality just wasnt safe. She brought her to me, I saw this behavior first hand. Her tail would go clear up her back laying flat on her back when she was ready to bite another dog.

On a good note she couldnt get her to walk on a harness, I was able to leash break her in about 5 minutes.

This breeder decided she couldnt keep her fearing the safety of the other yorkies so I believe she did place her in another home.

Awww that's so sad.

I hope whoever took this little girl will be able to help her -- maybe even hire a professional trainer.

ajendas · 10-26-2006, 02:02 PM

Hi Kimberly
Thank you for updating me. I honestly have not heard anything about this

I run puppy kindergarten classes at my vet's (which all of my dogs go through), but if there were temperament issues, I wish I had heard about it. I would NEVER want anyone talking about my dogs the way I've seen on other threads warning against breeders. I can't do anything unless I hear about it though.

YorkieGeorge - PLEASE, if you read this, email me. Let me know what female you purchased and I'd like to discuss it.

Kelly, I tried sending you a PM earlier, but your folder is full. I'll try sending it soon, but to give the board a gist of what I wrote, I swear on any dog in my home that I do not know what happened between you and Fonda. I am so touched by your post, I was almost crying. I wish I had known of YorkieTalk before and not having to find out by posting on the defensive. You are VERY lucky to be surrounded by such a supportive group. If you are ever looking for a Yorkie, or if I can help answer questions about other breeders I may have run across in my 20 years of showing (or my mother's 30 years), let me know. I'll help if I can.

JCarlson, if you took my post as sarcastic, I apologize, but I know you understand the value of a reputation and I value mine sincerely. BTW, if you look in the YorkieTales and TYTM magazines in the 1980s, you'll see pics of my mother (and me in the stroller next to the table)

Anyhow, I'm sure we'll run into each other on these boards more often and soon I'll be in the 1000s of posts like you! (I'm horribly addicted to chat rooms!)

I look forward to talking with everyone in other forums and hopefully on more cheerful topics

Right now, I'm not showing Yorkies since my puppy is only 7mos and Florida is known for loving floor-length coats. (In fact, if anyone is showing in Florida soon, email - we'll catch up!)

If I didn't mention your name (oy, all the posts!) Thank You Thank You Thank You for reading my posts while I tried to clear my name. *L*

Jennifer

luvdorkyyorkies · 10-26-2006, 03:15 PM

Jennifer,

Although this thread was never intended to be a thread toward you........Im glad it turned in this direction.
It is never a good thing to hear ill things about something you care deeply about, being your passion, doing everything in your power to do the right thing in a breeding program. Always learning and having a deep need to know. It might not always be right, but you have the best intentions and try to learn from your mistakes.
It would be even more upsetting to find out someone was not happy with a puppy or adult yorkie purchased from you, especially when they never contacted you, at least giving you the oppurtunity to right any wrong they felt.
This can and probably will happen to any serious breeder. Im sure my day is coming ( gosh I hope not!!.........lol) BUt it will most likely happen.
I just wanted to tell you, I admire your last post very much. You are trying to offer solutions not excuses.
I think the people of yorkie talk would be very happy and honored to have a member like you! Of course Im speaking for others.......but..............LOL
Welcome

luvdorkyyorkies · 10-26-2006, 04:06 PM

And just for the record/history.

My situation with Fondarosa has nothing to do with Jennifer, agendayorkies.
These two circumstances are two different stories, experienced by different people.
Im not sure why they ended up in the same thread, other then Bloodlines. But I hope it ends up to be enlightening and not a negative experience.

prettypuppypink · 10-27-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ajendas

Well, here's your chance to back up what you post.

My name is Jennifer Patti, and I've been wrongly accused and mistreated, and while some of you continue to post and jump on the bandwagon, NO ONE has emailed me directly or asked for any poster to back up what they posted.

PrettyYorkiePink - I think I know who you are, and if you'd like me to post your emails asking me for a puppy and where I refused to sell to sell to you, I will.

YorkieGeorge - please let me know what female you are referring to. If there is a problem, you never emailed me. Feel free to email me directly so we can discuss it.

As for other things posted:

1) Fonda is not my mother. Mary Lou is. Fonda and I are not related at all.

2) Kimberly, I read your story and am VERY sorry that you were wronged, but I don't know anything about this. Please do not confuse me with your friend or the broker.

3) Yes, I do have dogs that go back to Fonda's lines, and those dogs have strong lines behind them including Durrer's, Rothby, and Caraneal with several ROMs.

4) I started showing dogs when I was 4, I've been around longer and have probably finished more dogs than many of you. I have dogs with conformation, obedience, rally, and agility titles - two have been invited/gone to AKC Nationals. I go to class 3-4 nights a week. For anyone who thinks my dogs are not socialized, are crated, or overall not suitable as pets - feel free to ask me for references from judges, handlers, other happy owners of my dogs, and fellow breeders.

I don't need to justify myself, my mother, or my dogs to anyone who can't back up what they write. Unless one of you has a birth certificate that my mother was born to Fonda - STOP POSTING IT.

If anyone has proof that I was involved with what happened to Kimberly - POST IT or DROP IT.

If I refused to sell you a puppy, post WHY. If not, I will be glad to. If you purchased a puppy from me and have an issue, CONTACT ME. I stand behind my puppies, always have.

Anyhow, thank you for reading my post.

Jennifer

By the way, thank you Barb, Dani, and Donna for letting me know about this and letting others know about your pleasant experience with my dogs. I truly hope this has not affected you as it has me.

It would be interesting if you posted the emails where you say you refused to sell me one of your dogs since unfortunately you did sell me one. I wish you hadn't!
Jessica

Donna Jean · 10-28-2006, 01:16 PM

Boy, some people just won't back off, I think enough is enough, back off, if you do not like your puppy i am sure Jen would take it back, you can't have it both ways, no breeder wants to hear someone badmouthing one of their puppies, I feel sorry for the puppy, it deserves an owner who will be proud to own the puppy, and give the puppy what it needs to thrive, a puppy is only as good as the person who owns it and is responsible for training it! So back off, and don't try to start another mess, Jen is a great breeder and has great dogs, if she sold one to you should be really happy with it, if not, send it back, get your money back and Shut up, I think everyone is full to the top with all this backstabing!!!!!! This is a matter that should be delt with in private!!!!! You do not have my symathy!

prettypuppypink · 10-28-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Donna Jean

Boy, some people just won't back off, I think enough is enough, back off, if you do not like your puppy i am sure Jen would take it back, you can't have it both ways, no breeder wants to hear someone badmouthing one of their puppies, I feel sorry for the puppy, it deserves an owner who will be proud to own the puppy, and give the puppy what it needs to thrive, a puppy is only as good as the person who owns it and is responsible for training it! So back off, and don't try to start another mess, Jen is a great breeder and has great dogs, if she sold one to you should be really happy with it, if not, send it back, get your money back and Shut up, I think everyone is full to the top with all this backstabing!!!!!! This is a matter that should be delt with in private!!!!! You do not have my symathy!

I feel sorry for the buyer/victim that receives a vicious dog. The dog is only as good as the person who bred it and didn't honestly represent it. Don't speak for another breeder and what she would do when you haven't been there. I haven't posted the whole story, only warned others to stay away. I wouldn't wish my experience on anyone. I think for someone who just joined this forum on 10/21/06, you have a negative way with expressing yourself with nasty words. It makes me wonder why you would defend her with such loyalty when you don't own one of her dogs. Are you Jen? Your post is full of her choice of nasty vocabulary, very rude! I didn't ask for your sympathy or anyone else's, just stated to avoid this breeder. On YT we try to help other members with our breeder experience whether positive or negative to be helpful.
Jessica

Donna Jean · 10-29-2006, 06:39 AM

Jeniffer, I don't know you or the whole story so i would never, never pass judgment, or try to get everyone at YT to think badley of a breeder that you say sold you a dog that was vicious.

A Breeder's most important part to breeding dogs is to breed dogs to have a good tempertment! Be sound! And fit the AKC standard to not go over 7 lbs. Good Coats, top lines, good bite, and proper coloring, as well as texture of the coat.Bright Eyes and of course small ears that are properly set.

I have never run accross a vicious Yorkie, but i do know that when a new puppy comes into a new house hold they can be very scared, they are at the bottom of the Totem Pole, where with their litter mates they could maybe have been an Alfa Puppy. That takes some time and patience to turn these babies around. If i were you i would try puppy classes, maybe the dog whisper could also give you some sound advice. If the puppy is as bad as you say it is, before badmouthing the breeder, i would at least return the dog and get your money back, all reputable breeders would much rather give a refund and take a puppy back than to be bad mouthed on a public forum. It doesn't take a lot to ruin the repuation of a breeder, and i think anyone who would do that publicaly, without the whole story is being very unfair to the breeder! Would you want someone to do that to you? I try to pratice forgiveness, and leave the judging up to the Lord. We have all made mistakes, as i am sure you have, but to deliberately try tarnish a well known breeder i think is unfair, and think this matter should be settled in private.

I for one have had nothing but good experiences with this breeder, i have found her to be kind, informative, helpful, and breeding very well adjusted puppies, with pedigrees to die for. This woman has been showing for a very long time and is well know, if she were raising vicious dogs, i doubt she would be as well respected as she is.

A dear friend of mine has two of her puppies who she loves to pieces, they are well adjusted, and get along with all her other dogs and play well with her 5 and 12 week old puppies, no problems! I would buy a puppy from her in a heart beat and tried to, but my friend had 1st choice on a little boy that had a pedigree to die for and she bought him. I know their are a lot of people out their that feel the same way i do about Jen, and I for one would not hesitate to get one of her puppies and would be proud to own one. She could not be more fair, and follows thru on her word.

I would think handling the problem in private, would be the right thing to do, I think trying to ruin anyone's repuatition in this forum is very unfair, and a small thing to do.

Jeniffer no one wants a puppy that is vicious, no one, but their has to be a reason the puppy is the way it is, and i want to think it can be turned around with love and patience. I did not mean to be rude, i just do not like to try to ruin anyones repuation on a public forum, with people who have never had even an encounter with Jen.

I also feel i have just as much a right to be on this forum as you do, reguardless of when i joined, i do know that their are a lot of people who have been on this forum a long, long time, i respect that, i also know this forum has a lot of very good information, and support for people who need help, and they get it first hand here. I just do not believe in badmouthing anyone, we all have different experiences with the same people and mine could not have been better with Jen.

prettypuppypink · 10-29-2006, 09:47 AM

I have been avoiding the details of my experience with Jen. I won't comment on the condition of this dog on arrival, vet bills, etc. If you think so highly of Jen then you were fortunate to have a pleasant experience, mine wasn't. I've owned several toy breeds over 46 years, including four Yorkies previously, all from show breeders. I have never had a negative experience. I did with Jen. I will not continue with you or this topic. If I wanted to "BAD MOUTH" Jen, I would have told the whole ordeal. I just posted that I wouldn't recommend her as a breeder and I stand by that statement!
You have the right to post but not lecture me on my knowledge or care of my dogs to defend a breeder that grossly misrepresented a dog. Jen knows what she sold me.
Jessica

10-26-2006, 11:02 AM	#47
JCarlson2004 Mommy To 3 Poochies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 8,287	I am not going to continue with this childish back and forth banter -- especially when a total stranger is sarcastic to me and I've been completely nice. I've said my peace and that's enough. __________________ Mommy Loves Codie, Tia & Baby Cali RIP My Precious Katie - I Love You

10-26-2006, 12:16 PM	#49
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	ajendas I must admit that I admire your presence on this forum and look forward to reading updates on how your Yorkie family progresses in the ring(s). I didn't see anything on your site personally that intreagued me, but to know that there is more behind you and your Yorkies than what I got a taste of on your site, I am impressed. I look forward to reading from you again, hopefully on better terms. YT as you will see is a large family comprised of many people who will jump on a bandwagon simply because it seems like the thing to do. There are a few exceptional people on the site, but moreover that's really what YT seems to be about. Take care! ~Leslie Wooldridge __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

10-28-2006, 01:16 PM	#57
Donna Jean YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 616	Enough already!!!!! Boy, some people just won't back off, I think enough is enough, back off, if you do not like your puppy i am sure Jen would take it back, you can't have it both ways, no breeder wants to hear someone badmouthing one of their puppies, I feel sorry for the puppy, it deserves an owner who will be proud to own the puppy, and give the puppy what it needs to thrive, a puppy is only as good as the person who owns it and is responsible for training it! So back off, and don't try to start another mess, Jen is a great breeder and has great dogs, if she sold one to you should be really happy with it, if not, send it back, get your money back and Shut up, I think everyone is full to the top with all this backstabing!!!!!! This is a matter that should be delt with in private!!!!! You do not have my symathy!

10-29-2006, 06:39 AM	#59
Donna Jean YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 616	Vicous Dog Jeniffer, I don't know you or the whole story so i would never, never pass judgment, or try to get everyone at YT to think badley of a breeder that you say sold you a dog that was vicious. A Breeder's most important part to breeding dogs is to breed dogs to have a good tempertment! Be sound! And fit the AKC standard to not go over 7 lbs. Good Coats, top lines, good bite, and proper coloring, as well as texture of the coat.Bright Eyes and of course small ears that are properly set. I have never run accross a vicious Yorkie, but i do know that when a new puppy comes into a new house hold they can be very scared, they are at the bottom of the Totem Pole, where with their litter mates they could maybe have been an Alfa Puppy. That takes some time and patience to turn these babies around. If i were you i would try puppy classes, maybe the dog whisper could also give you some sound advice. If the puppy is as bad as you say it is, before badmouthing the breeder, i would at least return the dog and get your money back, all reputable breeders would much rather give a refund and take a puppy back than to be bad mouthed on a public forum. It doesn't take a lot to ruin the repuation of a breeder, and i think anyone who would do that publicaly, without the whole story is being very unfair to the breeder! Would you want someone to do that to you? I try to pratice forgiveness, and leave the judging up to the Lord. We have all made mistakes, as i am sure you have, but to deliberately try tarnish a well known breeder i think is unfair, and think this matter should be settled in private. I for one have had nothing but good experiences with this breeder, i have found her to be kind, informative, helpful, and breeding very well adjusted puppies, with pedigrees to die for. This woman has been showing for a very long time and is well know, if she were raising vicious dogs, i doubt she would be as well respected as she is. A dear friend of mine has two of her puppies who she loves to pieces, they are well adjusted, and get along with all her other dogs and play well with her 5 and 12 week old puppies, no problems! I would buy a puppy from her in a heart beat and tried to, but my friend had 1st choice on a little boy that had a pedigree to die for and she bought him. I know their are a lot of people out their that feel the same way i do about Jen, and I for one would not hesitate to get one of her puppies and would be proud to own one. She could not be more fair, and follows thru on her word. I would think handling the problem in private, would be the right thing to do, I think trying to ruin anyone's repuatition in this forum is very unfair, and a small thing to do. Jeniffer no one wants a puppy that is vicious, no one, but their has to be a reason the puppy is the way it is, and i want to think it can be turned around with love and patience. I did not mean to be rude, i just do not like to try to ruin anyones repuation on a public forum, with people who have never had even an encounter with Jen. I also feel i have just as much a right to be on this forum as you do, reguardless of when i joined, i do know that their are a lot of people who have been on this forum a long, long time, i respect that, i also know this forum has a lot of very good information, and support for people who need help, and they get it first hand here. I just do not believe in badmouthing anyone, we all have different experiences with the same people and mine could not have been better with Jen.

10-26-2006, 10:55 AM	#46
ajendas YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 4	Sorry I forgot to post one more thing ... if Kelly (luvdorkyyorkies) was misinformed and deceived by the broker and Jennifer Patti is truly innocent, I have no doubt that Kelly will contact her and apologize. Okay, JCarlson, now HOW did I become involved in this issue with Kelly? You continue to post the same thing to appease your friends, but you can't stand on the foundation they left for you to defend. Let me reiterate: 1) I am NOT related to Fonda, I purchased dogs from her. 2) I don't know Kelly. I never collected money from her and I never spoke with her! Kelly has no reason to apologize to me, she never once mentioned my name. You, on the other hand, have continued to doubt who I am and how long I've been in Yorkies because I have a low post number next to my name. I may not have as many posts on this board, but I have plenty more years, conformation/obedience/agility/rally titles (in 4 associations), and clients who can vouch my presence in the dog community. Guess what? I'm new to the board. I was informed of this page because you, amongst others, have failed to read previous posts in their entirety. You continue to bring my name into this, despite my own invitation for you to personally email me, and statements from other HAPPY owners who show my dogs (including people who have never read this thread but still have praise for me on other threads on Yorkie Talk). The people who you are defending, like I said in my first post, should be glad to have a devoted friend like you. I'd be honored if you actually read my posts, thought about it, and considered that I might be right. But previous posters still can't answer two basic statements: 1) Show proof that I am related to Fonda 2) Show that I collected money from Kelly, brokered any deals between Fonda and Kelly, or that I even know Kelly outside this list When you can show me either of those exist, I will personally call and apologize to you. Until then, it's not Kelly who owes me an apology. If you STILL need proof of who I am, I'll be glad to furnish references from fellow handlers, judges, breeders, and exhibitors who have known me since I was a child. I agree with you on one thing, this thread should be over by now. I know the people on this board have a strong bond, but before you smear my name (when you have already admitted you don't know me), THINK about what you post and if you can BACK IT UP WITH FACT. Thanks again for reading Jennifer

10-26-2006, 11:59 AM	#48
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	I havent been on here a couple days so I didnt see the updates on this thread. What a mess. I dont have a problem with agendayorkies. ANd Im very sorry if there was a mix up. But as you can see I have never posted about Jennifer and I do not know her. SHe has nothing to do with my situation and I would like to clear that up . I apolize Jennifer, that your name and yorkies were even mentioned in a thread/situation that you have had absolutely no involvement in or any wrong doing whatsoever. The only mention of Jennifer was by another poster. Even if Jennifer was related to the breeder I have had a problem with, WHICH SHE ISNt!!!...........Why would I hold them responsbile for the wrongs of a relative?? I cant control what others write, I can only control or be responsible for what I do. This thread was not complete and not a good post at all and I apolized for that . I have explained my situation on the Breeder Review thread, which was really where it should have been to begin with. Jennifer again I apolize for negative things that were said by another, but please know I had nothing to do with it.

10-26-2006, 02:02 PM	#53
ajendas YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 4	Hi Kimberly Thank you for updating me. I honestly have not heard anything about this I run puppy kindergarten classes at my vet's (which all of my dogs go through), but if there were temperament issues, I wish I had heard about it. I would NEVER want anyone talking about my dogs the way I've seen on other threads warning against breeders. I can't do anything unless I hear about it though. YorkieGeorge - PLEASE, if you read this, email me. Let me know what female you purchased and I'd like to discuss it. Kelly, I tried sending you a PM earlier, but your folder is full. I'll try sending it soon, but to give the board a gist of what I wrote, I swear on any dog in my home that I do not know what happened between you and Fonda. I am so touched by your post, I was almost crying. I wish I had known of YorkieTalk before and not having to find out by posting on the defensive. You are VERY lucky to be surrounded by such a supportive group. If you are ever looking for a Yorkie, or if I can help answer questions about other breeders I may have run across in my 20 years of showing (or my mother's 30 years), let me know. I'll help if I can. JCarlson, if you took my post as sarcastic, I apologize, but I know you understand the value of a reputation and I value mine sincerely. BTW, if you look in the YorkieTales and TYTM magazines in the 1980s, you'll see pics of my mother (and me in the stroller next to the table) Anyhow, I'm sure we'll run into each other on these boards more often and soon I'll be in the 1000s of posts like you! (I'm horribly addicted to chat rooms!) I look forward to talking with everyone in other forums and hopefully on more cheerful topics Right now, I'm not showing Yorkies since my puppy is only 7mos and Florida is known for loving floor-length coats. (In fact, if anyone is showing in Florida soon, email - we'll catch up!) If I didn't mention your name (oy, all the posts!) Thank You Thank You Thank You for reading my posts while I tried to clear my name. L Jennifer

10-26-2006, 03:15 PM	#54
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Jennifer, Although this thread was never intended to be a thread toward you........Im glad it turned in this direction. It is never a good thing to hear ill things about something you care deeply about, being your passion, doing everything in your power to do the right thing in a breeding program. Always learning and having a deep need to know. It might not always be right, but you have the best intentions and try to learn from your mistakes. It would be even more upsetting to find out someone was not happy with a puppy or adult yorkie purchased from you, especially when they never contacted you, at least giving you the oppurtunity to right any wrong they felt. This can and probably will happen to any serious breeder. Im sure my day is coming ( gosh I hope not!!.........lol) BUt it will most likely happen. I just wanted to tell you, I admire your last post very much. You are trying to offer solutions not excuses. I think the people of yorkie talk would be very happy and honored to have a member like you! Of course Im speaking for others.......but..............LOL Welcome

10-26-2006, 04:06 PM	#55
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	And just for the record/history. My situation with Fondarosa has nothing to do with Jennifer, agendayorkies. These two circumstances are two different stories, experienced by different people. Im not sure why they ended up in the same thread, other then Bloodlines. But I hope it ends up to be enlightening and not a negative experience.

10-29-2006, 09:47 AM	#60
prettypuppypink Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 739	I have been avoiding the details of my experience with Jen. I won't comment on the condition of this dog on arrival, vet bills, etc. If you think so highly of Jen then you were fortunate to have a pleasant experience, mine wasn't. I've owned several toy breeds over 46 years, including four Yorkies previously, all from show breeders. I have never had a negative experience. I did with Jen. I will not continue with you or this topic. If I wanted to "BAD MOUTH" Jen, I would have told the whole ordeal. I just posted that I wouldn't recommend her as a breeder and I stand by that statement! You have the right to post but not lecture me on my knowledge or care of my dogs to defend a breeder that grossly misrepresented a dog. Jen knows what she sold me. Jessica