I need to find...... can you help?
 

I need to find a tea cup yorkie stud for my yorkie. She is a full size and I wanted to breed her with a tea cup. Does anyone know where I could find a male tea cup stud here in southern california? What do stud fees normally run?

Thanks

Please let me start off with there is no such thing as a Tea Cup Yorkie. Go to the AKC website and read the standard or YTCA.org. If what you are attempting is to hopefully get a smaller yorkie, the size of the stud does not determine the size of the pups.

Stud fees can vary from region to region and the quality of the stud, it's linage/pedigree/championship. There is much more to breeding that just finding a stud for your girl. Your girl must be genetically free of any STD diseases and free from genetic defects that could very well be passed on to her offspring. The same with the stud.

There is no such thing as a tea cup. IMO, if you are unaware of that and what stud fees normally include, you are a long way from where you need to be BEFORE you consider breeding your female.:cool:

It appears, IMO, this person joined YT, (just joined within the last couple of days) with the purpose of finding a stud for her female. Sad but, some people want to start breeding without educating themselves. However, even though it frustrates us, I think it's in the best interest of the breed for us to educate them. Sometimes education works and sometimes it doesn't. If we get through to even 1 person it's worth the effort.

I totally agree with you. :) Yes it is unfortunate and frustrating.

Just to point one thing out though, you can't qualify yourself enough just by reading on YT. If this person doesn't know there is no such thing as a tea cup, honestly, how much research do you think has been done so far? Enough to be actively looking for a stud for breeding purposes? I wouldn't think so. I know alot of time sthe 'teacup' issue is blown out of hand. And when you are a Yorkie lover and even owner, I really don't give it a second thought, but when you are breeding and you refer to them that way...kind of makes you step back and think, know what I mean?

I guess maybe my answer was a bit harsh sounding?:( Sorry if it was, I guess it was just too 'to the point.' I'm sure I will be flamed for it, not that anyone will dispute what I said, just how I said it more than likely.:rolleyes:

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Well its obvious we have another one that thinks cause you have a female if you find a tiny male and breed then you have great tiny Yorkies- WRONG- IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT
It takes years of researching and doing to know how to match a stud dog to the right female- Pedigrees are what matter. Well one of the things that matter. A tiny stud DOES NOT guarantee tiny dogs- it just doesn't!!!!!!!
I have one boy that weighs just over 5 lbs and every litter of his has puppies that mature to 3 lbs and usually one that is 5+ lbs- Have a 3 lb boy that has nothing but 5 to 7 lb babies. Both throw great confirmation, coat and color but to breed for size is wrong.
I wish the poster good luck but do wish that more research and the using of a mentor would be the way to go. This is just my opinion but I really get fired up when someone contacts me and asks if they can use my studs case " they have this darling girl and they want one litter "
By the way- before you comment on that let me say - For a number of reasons I do not breed any dogs but my own- health wise and pedigree wise.

I understand your frustation, I could read it loud and clear. The hairs on the back of my neck bristle when I hear "Teacup". But, most of the time these people just needed education. I try my best to inform these people that it's an advertising ploy to entice the unsuspecting buyer and get more money. Little do they know that reputable breeders don't sell these lil tinies for fear that they will be selling heartbreak.
It angers me when I hear people say they want to breed to recoup their money they shelled out to purchase their dog. Or, they want to have puppies so their kids can learn about the birthing process, or so their friends/family can have a puppy, PLEASE..........If they only knew what it takes to ensure their breeding stock is healthy, assist in the whelping, and rearing of a new litter. The lack of sleep and maybe the heartache of loosing your matron and/or puppies.

The other thing that bothers me is when perspective new owners contact me and ask for specifics on a dog......like you can press a button and out pops exactly what you want. Heck! I have my pups freeze dried on a shelf, with specifics labled and water it when someone asks for those specifics. If only I could......Heck! I'd water one for myself......labled BEST IN SHOW.

Lol...I wish it worked that way! I bet there'd be less poop!:D

Please when you pull one off the shelf how about one BIS for me too please:D :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Wouldn't it be great!!!!!!..............Just to think BIS every time you take one out to show..........What a success story.

The best call was one my breeder received just a couple of weeks ago. The person was inquiring if she had any pups available. My breeder informed her it would be approximately 12-14 weeks before she had anything available, as she had a matron ready to whelp in the next couple of days. The person asked her how much the puppy would weigh at adult hood. Now think, my breeder has been breeding yorkies for 35+ years, she's good, but I don't think she's that good to be able to estimate the puppies weight before it is born.

From what I've read, breeding a tiny male to a larger female, odds are you'll be getting tiny females and larger males. You don't get "in between" sizes. Having tiny females is no pic-nic if you plan to sell them. Everyone wants them, but if they're bred, it's usually very dangerous to the female (and the babies). Also, even of they're NOT bred, not many people can't resist giving them tidbits of people food that their little systems cannot handle. Trust me, if you breed, you'll fall in love with every puppy you have and worry about how they're being cared for. There are several good books on breeding toy dogs and they could save you a ton of money and heartache. Hope this helped a bit.

someone needs to send her the Teacup Yorkie picture that was posted recently in the general forum. That is the only true teacup yorkie I have ever seen and like it said guarenteed on the size :D
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...=teacup+yorkie

there is the thread

lol, that's a good one! :)

Yorkies referred to as allegedly teacups by uninformed and not very reputable breeders are actually undersized representatives of the breed. No true Yorkie fancier would ever consider purposely breeding them or breeding for them nor using them for stud. An undersized dog of any breed and particularly a toy breed such as the Yorkie, will most of the time present with a myriad of health problems causing astronomical Vet bills. Some live a long life many don't.
Here is more info from the Yorkshire Terrier parent club Yorkshire Terrier Club of America.
http://www.ytca.org/faq.html#A
I agree with many of the posts here, you better be well versed in what you are doing before you ever begin to think of breeding your girl. The risks to her life are always there when a bitch is bred and whelping a litter.
You have to be prepared in the event of losing your bitch, losing bitch and puppies, problems in rearing meaning you are up tending to puppies around the clock every 90 minutes for about three weeks.
There is a large responsibility in breeding responsibly.

wow thanks but no thanks!!!
 

Who is to say that I'm a new owner! I have two yorkies Lily is 3 and 1/2 lbs and Daisy who is 7 lbs. I love them very much so I really don't appreciate all the negative talk as if I don't know how to care for my yorkies! Lily obviously would die if impregnated this is why I don't own a stud! And to me 3 1/2 lbs. qualifies a teacup! So what if my terminology isn't up to your standards. How snooty are you guys anyways? I thought this was a forum for those who love their Yorkies!? Not a forum full of yuppies! Anyway Daisy looks like she would like to have some company cause lily is much older, so I thought she might like to have some pups. This is the reason why I asked my simple initial question..... Does anyone know of a breeder here in southern California? Daisy does have all of her papers so of course a stud withpapers and healthy would be the only choice. So help or don't help, but don't mock my intensions! I care a great deal for my babies and just cause I'm not too keen on your terminology and breeding techniques doesn't mean that I don't take proper care of my girls! :mad: :thumbdown :mad: :thumbdown :mad: :thumbdown

This is a forum for people who love their yorkies. As with any forum you have different personalities that will respond to posts in different manners. I don't think anyone thought you were a bad mom, just not as informed as you really need to be . I apologize if you've been offended by what was posted in response to your question. Do a search on this subject and see what has been posted before and it might give you some insight as to why people responded in the manner they did.

It is posted here often about the term teacup yorkie. What they were saying is true. When someone refers to a yorkie as a teacup (with regard to breeding) it is obvious they haven't done much research. Breeding any animal is a big decision and should not be approached with a cavalier attitude.

If your reason for breeding is to have a companion for Daisy there are other solutions for this. Besides, unless you planned on keeping a puppy at some point they would all go to good homes and Daisy would be back to square one. If you are going to keep a pup as her companion why not just get another pup instead of putting her through a pregnancy? Just a suggestion.

Sorry, I am having a chuckle at your expense...you thought she might like to have some pups??? Seriously?

You have stated you know what you are doing but I think you are not thinking clearly. Even at 7 1/2 lbs you are still putting her life at risk.
Instead of putting up the cost of a stud fee, health testing, vet bills (possible c-section) and whelping supply, why don't you just purchase another yorkie?

Reading back on the posts; no one stated you were a new yorkie owner, but new to breeding. Yes, this is a forum of yorkie lovers, but also here to assit and educate new and existing forum members.

At times people on YT can become very intense on certain subjects (the term Teacups being one such subject,breeding responsibly is another.) Please, please compile all the information you can on this subject, before you attempt breeding, if you haven't already, find a mentor. There are long time reputable breeders on YT that are very experienced, plan every breeding scientifically, studying pedigrees, spend countless hours determining which stud will best compliment their female to improve the breed, but still fear the whelping time for their matrons. So many things can go wrong. Are you really prepared to lose your female and/or puppies. This can happen with the most healthy female.

Please, she has requested that you not mock her intentions.;)

I agree... why not just purchase another puppy rather than go through all that.

And if it's just companionship that you're specifically looking for for your younger dog, why would you ask specifically for a teacup male for stud?

LOL Now THAT'S a teacup yorkie!!

maybe you're right........
 

Maybe I should just search out another Yorkie and just buy another instead of breading. I was planning on keeping one or even two of the puppies. we have a big house so there is plenty of room. I guess I was and am still really interested to see what Daisy's pups would look like! She is a beautiful girl and would probably (if mixed with the right lineage) have beautiful babies. Many human families can adopt children as well..... yet they still choose to go through the birthing proccess. I guess I just want to give my girl the same opportunity. Where can I go for breeding research? I still haven't recieved any legitemate info on where I can research different studs in california.?

Thanks:rolleyes: :animal36 :confused:

Researching studs and pedigrees is not an easy process. It takes a lot of time, effort and networking. Most reputable breeders/exhibitors use their studs in their own breeding program and if they stud them out it is done on approved bitches. This is done to protect their lines and dogs.

AKC is the place to research pedigrees however, you must have akc registration numbers to do that.

There are several books out on breeding, if you go to AMAZON.Com you can find several there.

Sorry you were jumped on. We all have to learn somewhere. I too love my Baby, but after I read all the work that goes into breeding, and after reading too many stories of how so many furbaby females lost their life shortly after giving birth I said NO WAY! I didn't want to put Baby in that circumstance.

You can search YT (there's a button up top) for TONS of breeding info. I know that Sylvan has posted lots of great info on breeding. If you read it you might think twice! :eek: ;)

Whatever you decided, good luck! :animal36

I am sorry the everyone one here is such a expert that they have to jump on you for your question....I agree that the term teacup is not such a thing...but guys she ask a question and you would think you could at least have the kindness to just answer what you think with out jumpin or judging her....:(

Heres one big question to ponder....... Im sure you love her with all your heart but.... Just to see how her pups would look if she had them really worth risking her life? She can die during whelp, she can die from eclampsia, she can die from just about anything that can go wrong.
I have been into yorkies for 17 years no I am not a breeder but I do show, I cant imagine putting any of my girls at risk for puppies, which I can happily buy from a reputable breeder.
Just please think long and hard about doing this.. Is it worth it?
Start your research on breeding by a reputatble breeder that is willing to mentor you.

C'mon yous guys gotta think BIGGER, why just a BIS yorkie when you can get yourself a BISS yorkie.

an answer to your question
 

Try the "Regional" forum section here on this website. I think you can narrow your search down to the California area.

Hope that helps.

Oh, and please read the responses above with a "tough-love" kind of attitude, because they really don't mean harm (although a few of them were a little rude, in my opinion - - poking fun). They just want you to be totally and completely informed before breeding.

Best of luck to you!

I have to add my opinion that all of us pet owners should have our pets spayed/neutered to help control the pet overpopulation problem and lessen the number of unfortunate pets that are being neglected, abandoned, abused and/or euthanized every year.