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Breny · 10-06-2006, 12:26 PM

I think that the 22 gauge then.,

Breny · 10-07-2006, 07:07 AM

It contains Coronavirus - is it ok to use??? (no lepto) HELP??!!!

Breny · 10-07-2006, 07:16 AM

Sorry I'm on my way to the store and was hoping someone was on!

fannie · 10-07-2006, 07:26 AM

Yes, Coronavirus is fine. I use Vanguard Plus 5/CV. I get it at UPCO.

Breny · 10-07-2006, 07:37 AM

Ok thanks soo much !!!!!!!!!

Lacy's Mom · 10-07-2006, 09:07 AM

The Corona vaccine has never even been proven to be effective. I don't give it, but don't know if the reaction is as severe as to the lepto portion.

Breny · 10-07-2006, 06:52 PM

Anyone else????

Lacy's Mom · 10-07-2006, 07:50 PM

This is the paragraph concerning the Corona portion of the vaccine from a lawsuit by a vet in Texas:

Take time to read the whole article it is very interesting concerning vaccinations.

http://www.petresource.com/Articles%.../texas_vet.htm

Recommending, administering, and charging for Canine Corona vaccinations for adult dogs is fraud by misrepresentation, fraud by silence, theft by deception, and undue influence given the literature that states:

1. Dogs over eight weeks of age are not susceptible to canine corona virus disease. Disease produced by canine corona virus has never been demonstrated in adult dogs. Dogs over eight weeks of age that are immunized against canine parvovirus will not develop symptoms of canine corona virus disease. Addition of an unnecessary antigen to the vaccination protocol will result in a lesser immunity to the important diseases like parvovirus and distemper, and increase the risk of adverse reactions.

2. Immunologists doubt that Canine corona virus vaccine works, as it would require secretory mucosal IgA antibodies to protect against corona virus and a parenteral vaccine does not accomplish this very well. Twenty-two Schools of Veterinary Medicine including Texas A&M University do not recommend canine corona virus vaccine.

3. Gastroenteroligists at Schools of Veterinary Medicine including Dr Michael Willard at Texas A&M University have stated that they have only seen one case of corona virus disease in a dog in ten years.

On several occasions large numbers of dogs have died from adverse reactions to corona virus vaccine.

a reasonable client would not elect corona virus vaccination for an adult dog if presented this information.

fannie · 10-08-2006, 06:29 AM

Wow... I need to talk this one over with my vet. She won't do Lepto, so I wonder why she recommends the CV. None of my dogs had any sort of reaction to it.

fannie · 10-08-2006, 06:31 AM

I see this lawsuit was in 2002... I wonder if anything has changed since then.

fannie · 10-08-2006, 07:19 AM

http://www.cpvh.com/Articles/8.html

CANINE CORONAVIRUS

Canine Coronavirus is a virus that affects the intestinal tract of dogs. It causes a gastroenteritis similar to parvo. Canine Coronavirus is a highly contagious virus affecting not only puppies, but older dogs as well.

The clinical signs of Canine Coronavirus vary from mild and undetectable to severe and fatal. Most common signs include: depression, fever, loss of appetite, vomiting, and diarrhea. The diarrhea can be watery, yellowish-orange in color, bloody, mucoid, and usually has an offensive odor. Sudden death and abortions sometimes occur. The duration of illness can be anywhere from 2-10 days.

The most common route of infection is contact with fecal material containing the virus. Signs begin to show 1-5 days after exposure. The dog becomes a “carrier” for several weeks after recovery. The virus can live in the environment for several months. Clorox mixed at a rate of 4 ounces in a gallon of water will destroy the virus.

Because it is a virus, there is NO CURE for coronavirus at this time. Treatment varies according to the severity of the disease and the age and condition of your pet. Inravenous fluid therapy and hospitalization are often required, since dehydration readily occurs with this illness. Additional therapy can consist of dietary restriction, anti-emetics (anti-vomiting), anti-diarrheals, and broad spectrum antibiotics to prevent secondary infections.

It is estimated that at least 50% of all virus-type diarrhea is infected with both Parvovirus and Coronavirus. It is estimated that over 90% of all dogs have had exposure to Coronavirus at one time or another. Dogs that have recovered from Coronavirus develop some immunity, but the duration of immunity is unknown.

PREVENTION

Strict sanitation is required, especially if your household contains more than one dog. All animal waste should be disposed of daily, and feeding and watering utensils should be properly sanitized. A VACCINE for Canine Coronavirus is available. We highly recommend vaccination of all dogs against coronavirus, as well as parvovirus.

The following precautions are recommended for puppies:

Do not take your puppy to the front yard, park, for a walk around the block, or to PETSMART. These are all places where infected dogs have been or presently are.

Only have the puppy around dogs that YOU KNOW are current on vaccinations. There should be no contact with stray dogs or dogs that you are not sure of.

Do not let the puppy be exposed to any other puppies. These pups could be incubating the disease (and therefore be contagious) without showing signs of illness.

Always wash your hands after handling any dog.

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10-07-2006, 07:26 AM	#34
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,693	Yes, Coronavirus is fine. I use Vanguard Plus 5/CV. I get it at UPCO. __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!

10-07-2006, 07:37 AM	#35
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Ok thanks soo much !!!!!!!!! __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

10-07-2006, 09:07 AM	#36
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	The Corona vaccine has never even been proven to be effective. I don't give it, but don't know if the reaction is as severe as to the lepto portion.

10-07-2006, 06:52 PM	#37
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Anyone else???? __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

10-07-2006, 07:50 PM	#38
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	This is the paragraph concerning the Corona portion of the vaccine from a lawsuit by a vet in Texas: Take time to read the whole article it is very interesting concerning vaccinations. http://www.petresource.com/Articles%.../texas_vet.htm Recommending, administering, and charging for Canine Corona vaccinations for adult dogs is fraud by misrepresentation, fraud by silence, theft by deception, and undue influence given the literature that states: 1. Dogs over eight weeks of age are not susceptible to canine corona virus disease. Disease produced by canine corona virus has never been demonstrated in adult dogs. Dogs over eight weeks of age that are immunized against canine parvovirus will not develop symptoms of canine corona virus disease. Addition of an unnecessary antigen to the vaccination protocol will result in a lesser immunity to the important diseases like parvovirus and distemper, and increase the risk of adverse reactions. 2. Immunologists doubt that Canine corona virus vaccine works, as it would require secretory mucosal IgA antibodies to protect against corona virus and a parenteral vaccine does not accomplish this very well. Twenty-two Schools of Veterinary Medicine including Texas A&M University do not recommend canine corona virus vaccine. 3. Gastroenteroligists at Schools of Veterinary Medicine including Dr Michael Willard at Texas A&M University have stated that they have only seen one case of corona virus disease in a dog in ten years. On several occasions large numbers of dogs have died from adverse reactions to corona virus vaccine. a reasonable client would not elect corona virus vaccination for an adult dog if presented this information.

10-08-2006, 06:29 AM	#39
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,693	Wow... I need to talk this one over with my vet. She won't do Lepto, so I wonder why she recommends the CV. None of my dogs had any sort of reaction to it. __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!

10-08-2006, 06:31 AM	#40
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,693	I see this lawsuit was in 2002... I wonder if anything has changed since then. __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!

10-08-2006, 07:19 AM	#41
fannie Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,693	http://www.cpvh.com/Articles/8.html CANINE CORONAVIRUS Canine Coronavirus is a virus that affects the intestinal tract of dogs. It causes a gastroenteritis similar to parvo. Canine Coronavirus is a highly contagious virus affecting not only puppies, but older dogs as well. The clinical signs of Canine Coronavirus vary from mild and undetectable to severe and fatal. Most common signs include: depression, fever, loss of appetite, vomiting, and diarrhea. The diarrhea can be watery, yellowish-orange in color, bloody, mucoid, and usually has an offensive odor. Sudden death and abortions sometimes occur. The duration of illness can be anywhere from 2-10 days. The most common route of infection is contact with fecal material containing the virus. Signs begin to show 1-5 days after exposure. The dog becomes a “carrier” for several weeks after recovery. The virus can live in the environment for several months. Clorox mixed at a rate of 4 ounces in a gallon of water will destroy the virus. Because it is a virus, there is NO CURE for coronavirus at this time. Treatment varies according to the severity of the disease and the age and condition of your pet. Inravenous fluid therapy and hospitalization are often required, since dehydration readily occurs with this illness. Additional therapy can consist of dietary restriction, anti-emetics (anti-vomiting), anti-diarrheals, and broad spectrum antibiotics to prevent secondary infections. It is estimated that at least 50% of all virus-type diarrhea is infected with both Parvovirus and Coronavirus. It is estimated that over 90% of all dogs have had exposure to Coronavirus at one time or another. Dogs that have recovered from Coronavirus develop some immunity, but the duration of immunity is unknown. PREVENTION Strict sanitation is required, especially if your household contains more than one dog. All animal waste should be disposed of daily, and feeding and watering utensils should be properly sanitized. A VACCINE for Canine Coronavirus is available. We highly recommend vaccination of all dogs against coronavirus, as well as parvovirus. The following precautions are recommended for puppies: Do not take your puppy to the front yard, park, for a walk around the block, or to PETSMART. These are all places where infected dogs have been or presently are. Only have the puppy around dogs that YOU KNOW are current on vaccinations. There should be no contact with stray dogs or dogs that you are not sure of. Do not let the puppy be exposed to any other puppies. These pups could be incubating the disease (and therefore be contagious) without showing signs of illness. Always wash your hands after handling any dog. __________________ Steph, Mama to 6 skin babies and beautiful yorkies!