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pnsyorkies · 09-08-2006, 08:28 AM

hi thanks for writting he is blue and tan with a very tiny dot of white on his chest a dark steel blue grey color now it is darkening ... was silver when born 3 days ago .. HIs coat is shinny and is very soft just like the black ones ..
GOsh this is giving me some hope here ... I just pray he is ok and not afflicted with hair loss or worst .... But I intend to keep him here and neuter him when he is very young .. I could not place him I dont think knowing he could have problems later on in life I will ask my vet about the meds you mentioned .. and if I see any hair loss with this pup put him on it imediately
MAybe my vet can find out for me if a test can be done with dna to see if he carries the gene or not . I will definitely hvae this matter looked into . Should be a way with all the dna that goes on for our doggies .. I just love him dont get me wrong just not very proud of this color I know partially and even better now what can occur for this little one .

Thanks a million Folks
Pat n lil blue

pnsyorkies · 09-08-2006, 08:29 AM

his coat almost looks chocolatein some light wonder why this is .. Im sure it is grey but has this odd hue to it ... might just be my eyes playing tricks on me .

kitty · 09-08-2006, 08:31 AM

I hope everything works out ok with this little guy! I will be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers for a good outcome to this.

011011 · 09-08-2006, 08:35 AM

Mine looked chocolate also,not saying it will be helpful but the first one we had was born with white on the chest and had a shiny coat like the other black ones.The second we had was born with a duller coat was not as shiny.
Rini helped me with the melatonin I believe it was 1/4 tablet am and pm.I have pics of our and will try to post them here for you.

011011 · 09-08-2006, 08:44 AM

Here ya go.
I do have lots more.LOL He was a pretty boy and looks chocolate as he got older,but then came in a black coat! I think they are beautiful myself too bad some of them have problems.

011011 · 09-08-2006, 09:13 AM

Of course I was there mommy also so I thought they were beautiful no matter what color they were.

doortego · 09-08-2006, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine

So sorry about this blue born pup. Yes, in any breeds of dogs, not just YOrkies, the 'rare' colours are usually linked to a problem. Did the breeder you got the parents from ever get a blue born before?

I'm afraid that what makes them rare is the fact that few survive for a normal life. I am also afraid that the prize we put on our tinies is encouraging unethical breeders to release puppies to unsuspecting buyers at an earlier than actual age so they can say they are teacups and charge a higher price.

Too many of us are buying the pups as vanity items that become surplus when they grow larger than desired or fail to satisfy the ego boosting attention needed by immature and/or greedy owners.

It is desperately important that we stop breeding for selfish motives.

chachi · 09-08-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 011011

Here ya go.
I do have lots more.LOL He was a pretty boy and looks chocolate as he got older,but then came in a black coat! I think they are beautiful myself too bad some of them have problems.

He is cute. he does look like a chocolate yorkie

pnsyorkies · 09-08-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by doortego

I'm afraid that what makes them rare is the fact that few survive for a normal life. I am also afraid that the prize we put on our tinies is encouraging unethical breeders to release puppies to unsuspecting buyers at an earlier than actual age so they can say they are teacups and charge a higher price.

Too many of us are buying the pups as vanity items that become surplus when they grow larger than desired or fail to satisfy the ego boosting attention needed by immature and/or greedy owners.

It is desperately important that we stop breeding for selfish motives.

While this is true for alot of people .. and when someone contacts me with the OH HOW PRETTY THAT DOGGIE IS IN THE WINDOW .. the first thing I tell them is please do some reaseaerch on this breed before buyint especially if theya re a FIRST TIME YORKIE OWNER ... and I DO STRESS that we estimate sizes and we DO NOT NOW NOR EVER WILL TRY BREEDING FOR TINY PUPPIES >>>> I personally do not like the tinies because of the many problems and heart ache that follows with adult life and the longevity there of . I tell allmy buyers ... Get a larger yorkie one that will be 5 to 7 lbs grown .. besides theya re after all ALL YORKIES !!!!!!!!!!

pnsyorkies · 09-08-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 011011

Here ya go.
I do have lots more.LOL He was a pretty boy and looks chocolate as he got older,but then came in a black coat! I think they are beautiful myself too bad some of them have problems.

' He is gorgeous ..I do hope my lil blu makes it ... THanks everyone .. for the kind words and prayers ... I do appreciate everything ...
I owned a blue boy onceI bought him thinking this is unusual and I jsut wanted him to have him not for breeding of course I've been in the Yorkeis too long to know this is not standard or good but I wanted him took the best care I knew of at the time . and lost big time heart ache and all but I tried ... he died at a very young age ...
not getting attached to this one .... cant let myself do that ...he is fat and healthy looking and is teh bigger of the two .... which both will stay here ... she will be spayed not watning her to pass on a blue pup .... in the event that could very well happen I will have her spayed right away ..

011011 · 09-08-2006, 12:40 PM

I would not spay her just do not use the same male that produced this color.Of course the option to do so is up to you.I was told from a reputable breeder to use another male and have not had a blue pup since.

pnsyorkies · 09-08-2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 011011

I would not spay her just do not use the same male that produced this color.Of course the option to do so is up to you.I was told from a reputable breeder to use another male and have not had a blue pup since.

I was thinking of having the female pup spayed . I dont know much about the genetics on what the possibility of a pup from a blue litter **having a blue pup herself *** would be . does anyone have a clue to the answer here ...
I'm Not having the bitch who bred to this male spayed .. Im going to try her again with a different male .. she came from velvet touch kennel/breeder I do not know anything about her have never spoke with her I aquired this female from someone who could not keep her .. so therefore I do not knnow her lines ... maybe someone on here does .... or can shed some light thereabout... anyway ...
i have seen her website ..
Pat

BamaFan121s · 09-08-2006, 01:00 PM

Granted, this is just my personal opinion, but figuring out where this is coming from by researching the genetic background of both the mother and the father (which should have been done PRIOR to this breeding, right?) seems like the way to go, NOT just try again and see if you get lucky and can deem the problem fixed.

Say it is the female, and she doesn't produce one with the next litter...you wouldn't know now would you?

I know it sucks when you come to realize that a dog you'd hope would be sound stock just isn't what they need to be....trust me, we recently made a hard decision to spay a female because of this. But IMO, it's the responsible way to go. Surely you understand this having owned and lost a blue before? Why wouldn't you go to any lengths neccessary to keep yourself or someone else from having to go through this again?

011011 · 09-08-2006, 01:44 PM

I would definatly spay the blue pup.I would not the female that reproduced it.Rini and I have talked about our little one that produced the blue pups and I bred her with a diferent male and no blue pups.Seems to be alot of blue pups showing up these days.Wonder why? Is the gene pool mixed?Lots of questions there unanswerd for me.The male that reproduced the blue with my female has been bred to other females and no blue pup.So it was the two together.
Even though you research the male and female before does not mean you will not get a blue,red,chocolate.There is none of it in my male and females lines.And I ended up with two!Go figure?

txshopper73 · 09-08-2006, 02:06 PM

As far as genetics, wouldn't both parents have to carry the recessive gene in order for it to turn out in the litter? So why would you spay one and not the other?

09-08-2006, 08:28 AM	#16
pnsyorkies Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: mississippi Posts: 66	hi thanks for writting he is blue and tan with a very tiny dot of white on his chest a dark steel blue grey color now it is darkening ... was silver when born 3 days ago .. HIs coat is shinny and is very soft just like the black ones .. GOsh this is giving me some hope here ... I just pray he is ok and not afflicted with hair loss or worst .... But I intend to keep him here and neuter him when he is very young .. I could not place him I dont think knowing he could have problems later on in life I will ask my vet about the meds you mentioned .. and if I see any hair loss with this pup put him on it imediately MAybe my vet can find out for me if a test can be done with dna to see if he carries the gene or not . I will definitely hvae this matter looked into . Should be a way with all the dna that goes on for our doggies .. I just love him dont get me wrong just not very proud of this color I know partially and even better now what can occur for this little one . Thanks a million Folks Pat n lil blue __________________ [B][COLOR="Red"]some are here because they hope to make a differnce,Others like to roll around in the feces. You'll be able to "sniff them out " in no time .

09-08-2006, 08:29 AM	#17
pnsyorkies Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: mississippi Posts: 66	his coat almost looks chocolatein some light wonder why this is .. Im sure it is grey but has this odd hue to it ... might just be my eyes playing tricks on me . __________________ [B][COLOR="Red"]some are here because they hope to make a differnce,Others like to roll around in the feces. You'll be able to "sniff them out " in no time .

09-08-2006, 08:31 AM	#18
kitty My Best Friend Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: oklahoma Posts: 2,258	I hope everything works out ok with this little guy! I will be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers for a good outcome to this. __________________ Support our Troops :

09-08-2006, 01:00 PM	#28
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Granted, this is just my personal opinion, but figuring out where this is coming from by researching the genetic background of both the mother and the father (which should have been done PRIOR to this breeding, right?) seems like the way to go, NOT just try again and see if you get lucky and can deem the problem fixed. Say it is the female, and she doesn't produce one with the next litter...you wouldn't know now would you? I know it sucks when you come to realize that a dog you'd hope would be sound stock just isn't what they need to be....trust me, we recently made a hard decision to spay a female because of this. But IMO, it's the responsible way to go. Surely you understand this having owned and lost a blue before? Why wouldn't you go to any lengths neccessary to keep yourself or someone else from having to go through this again? Last edited by BamaFan121s; 09-08-2006 at 01:05 PM.

09-08-2006, 02:06 PM	#30
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	As far as genetics, wouldn't both parents have to carry the recessive gene in order for it to turn out in the litter? So why would you spay one and not the other? __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

09-08-2006, 08:35 AM	#19
011011 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 1,432	Mine looked chocolate also,not saying it will be helpful but the first one we had was born with white on the chest and had a shiny coat like the other black ones.The second we had was born with a duller coat was not as shiny. Rini helped me with the melatonin I believe it was 1/4 tablet am and pm.I have pics of our and will try to post them here for you.

09-08-2006, 09:13 AM	#21
011011 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 1,432	Of course I was there mommy also so I thought they were beautiful no matter what color they were.

09-08-2006, 12:40 PM	#26
011011 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 1,432	I would not spay her just do not use the same male that produced this color.Of course the option to do so is up to you.I was told from a reputable breeder to use another male and have not had a blue pup since.

09-08-2006, 01:44 PM	#29
011011 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 1,432	I would definatly spay the blue pup.I would not the female that reproduced it.Rini and I have talked about our little one that produced the blue pups and I bred her with a diferent male and no blue pups.Seems to be alot of blue pups showing up these days.Wonder why? Is the gene pool mixed?Lots of questions there unanswerd for me.The male that reproduced the blue with my female has been bred to other females and no blue pup.So it was the two together. Even though you research the male and female before does not mean you will not get a blue,red,chocolate.There is none of it in my male and females lines.And I ended up with two!Go figure?