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scrapindee 08-17-2006 02:26 PM
SCHEDULES and JUDGES:

Southern California Schedule: go to internationaldogshow.com



South El Monte, CA show relocated, still inside Whittier Narrows Rec. Area. Click for map. Zoom out for more general location.





If coming from the east on the 60: Exit Santa Anita/Fawcett Ave. Stay on Fawcett until Lerma Road; go left park behind Tennis Club and Ramada Inn. On Corner of Lerma and Portero.



If coming from the west on the 60: Exit Santa Anita and go left (north) to Fawcett go Left to Lerma and park.



WATCH for signs.

newmommy 08-18-2006 09:05 PM
wish I was closer!!

scrapindee 08-24-2006 07:39 PM
Check my website for pictures of the wonderful biewers at the show. It was awesome.

sweetr72 08-24-2006 08:02 PM
Biewers are amazingly beautiful!! I have heard them mentioned on here but just checked out Dee's website and wowee!! I would love to meet one in person!! Are their tails docked?? My new Yorkie does not have his tail docked and the breeder called me last night to give me an update..she says his tail is starting to lift over his back..lol..I noticed that on the Biewers pictured...I can really appreciate what is trying to be done with this breed and how you are trying to have them recognized as their "own" breed!!

Dawn

scrapindee 08-25-2006 07:11 PM
The tails are not docked on the Biewers. This is part of the standard for the Biewers from Germany. I for one am delighted that this is allowed (tails). I have a teapot yorkie who is basically blonde--I wish she had her tail but she is beautiful anyways.

There are 10 pages of Biewers on the website from the CA show. Enjoy--it was an awesome sight.

sweetr72 08-25-2006 07:16 PM
Thanks for the reply to my question. I love tails too lol...I am glad the breeder choses not to dock. I am going back to look at the pics tonight...the show would have been awesome!!

Dawn

Julz 08-25-2006 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gypsyqueen
Now I checked the standard for akc and ytca both have the same standard if a beiwer cant be registerd why is it ok for a chocolate or parti and should the price be much cheaper since it should not be bread and cant be shown

I may be wrong, but this is my understanding:
The Biewer is not considered a Yorkie. It is not a "Biewer Yorkshire Terrier". It is considered a different breed with different standards. However, a chocolate or parti colored Yorkshire Terrier that is the result of 2 AKC parents is entitled to be AKC also. You have to send specific pictures in and the panel has to agree to accept said dog. I had 2 color anomaly pups in a litter....AKC did accept them.

Toby'sMama 08-25-2006 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Julz
I may be wrong, but this is my understanding:
The Biewer is not considered a Yorkie. It is not a "Biewer Yorkshire Terrier". It is considered a different breed with different standards. However, a chocolate or parti colored Yorkshire Terrier that is the result of 2 AKC parents is entitled to be AKC also. You have to send specific pictures in and the panel has to agree to accept said dog. I had 2 color anomaly pups in a litter....AKC did accept them.
The German Registry registers the Biewers as Biewer Yorkshire Terrier, or Biewer Yorkshire Terrier ala Pom Pon. They are a breed of their own, but they are decended from the Yorkshire Terrier.

4Dogs 08-26-2006 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapindee

There are 10 pages of Biewers on the website from the CA show. Enjoy--it was an awesome sight.
GREAT photos Dee! Wow, I have to admend my Christmas list to include a little Biewer! I fell in love immediately - as soon as I clicked on the 1st picture on the 1st page!

Julz 08-26-2006 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Toby'sMama
The German Registry registers the Biewers as Biewer Yorkshire Terrier, or Biewer Yorkshire Terrier ala Pom Pon. They are a breed of their own, but they are decended from the Yorkshire Terrier.
I know they are a pibald decendent of the Yorkie, but thought that I read that they weren't considered a Yorkie (even though no other breed has been mixed in to create the Biewer). Interesting. I'll have to read more....its been a while. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

scrapindee 08-27-2006 08:23 PM
Thanks for the compliments. I would like more biewers too. I really enjoy them too.

The breed history is very interesting; and they are an extension of the Yorkie Terriers; after all their name is Biewer Yorkshire Terrier a la Pom Pon.

YorkieRini 08-29-2006 07:16 AM
I love to see more interest in Biewers. I have had many conversations with long time Yorkshire Terrier fanciers to find out the mystery behind the gene in Biewers. In England where the YT was created the breeds that were used; none carried the Piebald gene. It wasn’t until the YT was brought over to the US or another country when the gene appeared. So, the only explanation is that another breed was introduced into the Yorkshire Terrier line and not logged. Speculation is the Maltese or even the Shih Tzu. That is why they are considered a separate breed. True Yorkshire Terriers do not have a Piebald Gene. You can read excellent information pertaining to that on Cher Hildebrand’s website http://members.aol.com/CYorkie/BiewerTriColor.html that explains why the Biewer is not a Yorkshire Terrier. There is no denying they are related that’s for sure. But to call them one in the same is just not correct. Some still breed them to Yorkies they refuse to see the facts and want to make more is my guess. For those wanting to learn more about the Biewer Yorkshire Ala Pom Pon. Feel free to visit the NBCA’s website www.nationalbiewerclubofamerica.org.

PlatinumYorkies 08-30-2006 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRini
Speculation is the Maltese or even the Shih Tzu. .
Aren't the Maltese, and Shih Tzu double coated doggies?:confused:

BamaFan121s 09-05-2006 01:34 PM
Here is a very useful link with lots of information. http://www.bytca.org/
You can also try Biewertalk.com.
Don't feel bad, it still confuses me too. I tried to get it all strait in my head, but ended up insulting some by asking questions, so I gave up.:rolleyes: It's been a touchy subject here in the past...do a search on it and look for the many heated threads and you'll see what I mean.:p
If you can get it strait, you're one up on me.:thumbup: :D


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