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Cupy · 06-28-2006, 12:23 PM

My Gigo is 1 year old and he has one mistake - his topline is not level as it should be. I am so sad. He could never go to dogshows
Tell me please do you know how is in this cases, is he o.k. for breeding or this fault could transmit to his childrens?????
I really need this information. Is it possible for him go get breed permission?

I am sendin you some pictures where you can see hit topline.

PRECIOUSMOMMY · 06-28-2006, 12:28 PM

gigo is still such a cutie

littleang

hollywoodyorkie · 06-28-2006, 12:30 PM

He is quite a cutie! Really nice coloring. Does he have a tail? It looks like it. Can you show Yorkies with a tail? I thought they needed to be docked??!

sylvan · 06-28-2006, 12:51 PM

Hollywood...the OP is in Slovenia. Docking is not done on European dogs.
I would not breed a dog with a roach back...jmo.

YorkieGeorge · 06-28-2006, 12:57 PM

Your Gigo is a cutie!
I personally will not breed a dog with a roach back.
My George is like Gigo.
This is why I neutered him and placed him a lovely pet home.

hollywoodyorkie · 06-28-2006, 01:03 PM

Ohhh, I see! Well, whatever happens, he is a cutie!!

I love Lucy · 06-28-2006, 01:19 PM

I guess it would depend on what you are looking for to breed him? He can have some beautiful pet quality pups..? I wonder if this can be corrected by breeding wiht one that has a good topline? ALthough I remember hearing it is hard to breed that quality out? I wonder??

chechinmipo · 06-28-2006, 09:57 PM

I think in his case he could pass this to his offspring, I may be wrong, the thing is his topline is arched instead of the usual problem of slopped so it rather unusual. I think the best thing is trace back to his sire and dam and see if any of them have this. If so than that would answer your question.

Lacy's Mom · 06-29-2006, 10:23 AM

Roach back, sometimes called wheel back, is a serious fault and, in my opinion, he should not be bred. Many with roach back will become arthritic as they age. I would talk to a vet about giving him glucosamine and fish oil supplements to try and delay the onset of arthritis as long as possible.

Cupy · 06-29-2006, 11:02 AM

Reaaaaaaaaaaaaly?????

k2p1e · 06-29-2006, 03:12 PM

I would seriously not breed him. It is something that will more then likely be passed down the generations. He is a cutie, a great pet but pet. When breeding I think we should all aim to be ethical as possible. t is only fair to the future puppies and future owners.
Also there will be more the likely probelms with arthritus in his back as he ages. Roach back and unlevel tolines are undesirable for a reason, it affects their health.
I would have him fixed and just enjoy your cute little guy.

Sugar's Mom · 06-29-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sylvan

Hollywood...the OP is in Slovenia. Docking is not done on European dogs.
I would not breed a dog with a roach back...jmo.

so this is what a roach back looks like? i guess I am learning every day. I thought they were more pronounced than this. I thought roach back was sloped the whole way. he has an arch in his back.

txshopper73 · 06-29-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by I love Lucy

I guess it would depend on what you are looking for to breed him? He can have some beautiful pet quality pups..? I wonder if this can be corrected by breeding wiht one that has a good topline? ALthough I remember hearing it is hard to breed that quality out? I wonder??

You cannot breed a bad top line to one with a correct top line and not expect those genes to be passed on to the pups. It's a never ending cycle with these faults. I would not breed.

Cupy · 06-29-2006, 08:31 PM

I think you are right. He is not for breeding. I will never bread him, becouse I want the future yorkies are healthy.
But I can`t understand. I am a beginer in breeding. This is my first yorki. I bought him at age of 4 months. I bought and pay him as SHOW QUALITY dog and for breed. Of course I had no experience so I could simple overlook this mistake.
Breeder assure me at that time that hi is with no mistake!!!!!!
So is it really possible that the topline was perfect at that time as she is telling me all the time????????????

BabyFidgette · 06-29-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

so this is what a roach back looks like? i guess I am learning every day. I thought they were more pronounced than this. I thought roach back was sloped the whole way. he has an arch in his back.

I was thinking the same thing! I didn't know either.

He is beautiful with his long tail, though.

06-28-2006, 12:51 PM	#4
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	Hollywood...the OP is in Slovenia. Docking is not done on European dogs. I would not breed a dog with a roach back...jmo. __________________ Stacy and the crew

06-28-2006, 12:57 PM	#5
YorkieGeorge Donating YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,930	Your Gigo is a cutie! I personally will not breed a dog with a roach back. My George is like Gigo. This is why I neutered him and placed him a lovely pet home. __________________ ♥FurBabyBows ♥ Beautiful Handmade Dog Bows for your Fur Baby ♥ Formosa Yorkies

06-28-2006, 01:19 PM	#7
I love Lucy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California's central coast Posts: 239	For a pet quality dog.. I guess it would depend on what you are looking for to breed him? He can have some beautiful pet quality pups..? I wonder if this can be corrected by breeding wiht one that has a good topline? ALthough I remember hearing it is hard to breed that quality out? I wonder?? __________________ Lucy's mom RIP Milo 12/07-we miss you!

06-29-2006, 08:31 PM	#14
Cupy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Slovenia Posts: 185	I think you are right. He is not for breeding. I will never bread him, becouse I want the future yorkies are healthy. But I can`t understand. I am a beginer in breeding. This is my first yorki. I bought him at age of 4 months. I bought and pay him as SHOW QUALITY dog and for breed. Of course I had no experience so I could simple overlook this mistake. Breeder assure me at that time that hi is with no mistake!!!!!! So is it really possible that the topline was perfect at that time as she is telling me all the time???????????? Last edited by Cupy; 06-29-2006 at 08:33 PM.

06-28-2006, 12:28 PM	#2
PRECIOUSMOMMY Currently Suspended! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 83	gigo is still such a cutie littleang

06-28-2006, 12:30 PM	#3
hollywoodyorkie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 184	He is quite a cutie! Really nice coloring. Does he have a tail? It looks like it. Can you show Yorkies with a tail? I thought they needed to be docked??!

06-28-2006, 01:03 PM	#6
hollywoodyorkie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 184	Ohhh, I see! Well, whatever happens, he is a cutie!!

06-28-2006, 09:57 PM	#8
chechinmipo No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 2,260	I think in his case he could pass this to his offspring, I may be wrong, the thing is his topline is arched instead of the usual problem of slopped so it rather unusual. I think the best thing is trace back to his sire and dam and see if any of them have this. If so than that would answer your question.

06-29-2006, 10:23 AM	#9
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	Roach back, sometimes called wheel back, is a serious fault and, in my opinion, he should not be bred. Many with roach back will become arthritic as they age. I would talk to a vet about giving him glucosamine and fish oil supplements to try and delay the onset of arthritis as long as possible.

06-29-2006, 11:02 AM	#10
Cupy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Slovenia Posts: 185	Reaaaaaaaaaaaaly?????

06-29-2006, 03:12 PM	#11
k2p1e Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NB Posts: 212	I would seriously not breed him. It is something that will more then likely be passed down the generations. He is a cutie, a great pet but pet. When breeding I think we should all aim to be ethical as possible. t is only fair to the future puppies and future owners. Also there will be more the likely probelms with arthritus in his back as he ages. Roach back and unlevel tolines are undesirable for a reason, it affects their health. I would have him fixed and just enjoy your cute little guy.