HOW do I tell when my female is ready to mate and...

[ojanpera]

I'm new to the yorkie breeding scene. I need to know HOW to tell when my female is ready to breed/mate (and any other signs you think I should know of first). Then once the male is introduced to the ready female, do I just leave them alone and let them go at it, or do I need to assist, and how many times do I have the male mate with her, hourly? daily? I not new to Yorkies but definately new to the breeding portion of this.
Also, How are stud fee figured out with regard to Yorkies? I have been told that I ask for money since there are not enough puppies? I charge stud fees whether it takes or not? I need help in this area too.

Thanks All! I'm talking my Gem to his first stud service later this afternoon. This came up all of a sudden, so any insights would be really appreciated. I will be reading all replies, but I probably won't write back until the evening or the next afternoon. Just don't want u to think I'm not appreciative or that I'm ignoring you.


Thanks ALL!!

[yorkiegirl2]

First off let me say hello and welcome to YT.
All the question you are asking are here in the breeders section.
I am not trying to be mean ..so please don’t take it that way.
If you want to breed the right way, you really need to read everything you can get your hands on.
About breeding , faults, traits, bloodlines, genetics, the health problems this breed has ..etc.
Do this before you decide to even think about breeding.
I know everyone has to start out somewhere.
If you read the threads you will understand breeding is not for the faint of heart.
It can be exciting and heartbreaking.
Next you need to find a mentor (breeder to help you get started ) and a good Vet.
A good breeder can tell you if the female is good breeding stock, when she would be ready to breed (most breed on the 2nd-3rd heat) and what testing need to be done on the female.
You need to have money on hand for problems.
Whelping supplies, C-Section if needed, shots, dew claws, tail docks, lost of sleep, lost of work, feeding pups if mom dies, or won’t feed pups….etc.
I started the wrong way .
I didn’t know enough when I first started breeding.
Had I listened to a long time breeder on here, my first time might not have been so heartbreaking .
I lost a whole litter, the female was C-sectioned and spayed , then placed in a good home.
The breeder told me the female was having problems and the Vet said she wasn’t.
Most Vets do not have the experience the long time breeders do.
Mine sure didn’t.
A year later , I have new females, a breeder friend, good breeders here on YT and a NEW VET.
I will be breeding again soon with so much more knowledge and a better understanding of the breed.
I still don’t know everything the long timers do.
I learn something new everyday.
Your male need to be looked at and testing done to see if he will made a good stud.
STD on both male and female.
Your boy is not a Stud until he is proven. The best was to prove him is to breed him to a female who has whelped before.
Females usually comes to the males home for breeding.
The male sometimes needs help and they need to be watched close to make sure the female does not injure the male by dragging him around when they tie. Or the female may bite the male.. etc.
Fees for a first timer is usually free or a small amount of money.
Depends on the dog and bloodlines.. If it does not take ..then you should return the fee or offer a free breeding next time.

[whispersmom2]

Sherry, you have posted most of my thoughts, too. I was thinking that the female will be ready to breed when the owner is ready and that takes a long time and a lot of research..
We are a passionate bunch and try ever to sound mean, but sometimes it might not sound exactly the way our post was intended.
It sounds as if the male should not be bred yet, either. The female's mom must be cery experienced as well as the sire's owner..

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by whispersmom2

Sherry, you have posted most of my thoughts, too. I was thinking that the female will be ready to breed when the owner is ready and that takes a long time and a lot of research...

Those were exactly my thoughts..

[ojanpera]

Thank you all for your help! I don't understand what kind of tests my male will need?

Ojanpera

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by ojanpera

Thank you all for your help! I don't understand what kind of tests my male will need?

Ojanpera

When I took my male in to get him ready to start studding out.
I had the VET check him and run tests.
Ears, Heart, Eyes, lungs ..........pass
Correct bite ...........................Yes
Knees (Patellar Luxation) .........pass
Liver and Kidney function test...pass
Heartworm test ......................Neg
Brucellosis (STD TEST).............Neg
UTD(up to date) on shots ........Yes

Make sure the dog has both testies. (Balls)

What registery is the dog?
AKC,ACA,CKC,APR,APRI..etc
If you breed two dog that are both AKC then the pups will be registered through AKC..If you breed an AKC and An ACA..etc dog ..then the pups will have to be registered through the ACA..etc registery.

What type of pedigree does the dog have?
(any Ch. bloodlines)?
IMO ..A dog with Ch.bloodlines does not alway mean the dog is any better ..(unless the dog is a Ch. himself)
I have seen very nice males without Ch.bloodlines.
If two males one Ch. and one not.
I would rather breed to the male who has all the quailties I want... then to one who has Ch. lines but none of the quailities I care for.
But,
If both dog had the same qualities, then I would chose the one with the Ch.Lines. over the dog without.

Do you know any thing about the male's parents?
(Size's)
(Health problems in the lines)...Etc.

Next Look at the dog, what are the good point the dog has..
Weight range
(Male should be around the same size or smaller then the female)
(Both should not be over 7 lbs.)
Correct ear set
Straight back
Compact body
Good Temperment..etc.

What Faults does the dog have?
Ears to big..legs to long? ..etc

Pull Faults by breeding to a female who has the correct Ears,Legs..etc
A female I have is a little longer in the body then I would like ..But my Male has a compact body..So I'm hoping He can pull the fault when I breed the two.

The other Female I have has the compact body.
So when I breed the two ..all pups should have compact bodies..

Two long legged, floppy eared dogs will product long legged, floppy eared pups...etc

I hope you understand what I'm saying.

Chose a female or male that compliments each other.

Last you should make sure any female you breed your male to is healthy and all testing done as well.
Ask your Vet if there are other breeders in your area that you can talk to and help you get started.

[snickers mom]

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2

STD on both male and female.
.

i'm not breeding my puppy nor want to be a breeder but still find this talk interesting so i read it from time to time and just had a question..
std testing as in std's like humans or std as in an abbrivation for standard?
sorry to but in just curious thanks!

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by snickers mom

i'm not breeding my puppy nor want to be a breeder but still find this talk interesting so i read it from time to time and just had a question..
std testing as in std's like humans or std as in an abbrivation for standard?
sorry to but in just curious thanks!

Std stand for Sexually Transmitted Disease

Brucellosis

Brucellosis is a disease caused by a bacteria, Brucella canis. It is found throughout the world. It is spread through contact with aborted fetuses and discharges from the uterus of infected bitches, during mating, through maternal milk and possibly through airborne transmission in some cases. The bacteria enters the body through mucous membranes and spreads from there to lymph nodes and the spleen. It also spreads to the uterus, placenta and prostate gland as well as other internal organs at times.

In female dogs, infection leads to abortion or early death of infected puppies. Infected females may have no other clinical signs. In some cases there may be decreased fertility rather than abortion. This may be due to resorption of fetuses early in their development.

In male dogs, infection of the testicles can lead to infertility due to anti-sperm antibodies developed as the body attempts to fight off the bacterial infection. The testes may atrophy after the initial period of swelling. Scrotal enlargement or infection of the skin over the scrotum may be seen.

In both female and male dogs there may be infection of spinal discs (diskospondylitis) which can cause back pain and rear leg weakness or even paralysis. Eye inflammation may be seen in either sex.

It is not usually possible to culture Brucella canis bacteria from the blood or affected tissues so diagnosis is usually done by titer testing. There is a kit available to veterinarians for testing in their office. It is usually best to retest any dogs found positive on this test with other testing methods since there is a fairly high rate of false positives using the in-house test kit.

Brucellosis is very difficult to treat successfully. A combination of minocycline and streptomycin is thought to be most effective but is expensive. Tetracycline can be substituted for the minocylcine to reduce costs but also lowers the effectiveness of treatment. All infected animals should be neutered or spayed to prevent sexually related transmission. All infected animals should be considered to be lifelong carriers of the disease, even if treated.

It would probably be best not to breed dogs without testing both the male and female for this disease. Breeding should be a deliberate choice -- not a random event! For breeding kennels, routine isolation of new dogs would be a very good idea. After isolation and negative tests at entry into the kennel and one month later, it should be safe to let the new dog mix with the others in the kennel. If infection is suspected at any time, quaternary ammomium (like Roccal Rx) and iodophor (Betadine Rx) disinfectants can kill Brucella organisms in the kennel to limit spread of the disease.

One last thing. It is possible that brucellosis caused by Brucella canis may be a zoonotic disease -- meaning that people could potentially be infected by this organism. It is something to think about when handling infected dogs. Wear gloves around any body fluids and be careful about contaminating yourself in any way.

[lisatodd]

hi...i was very impressed with your knowledge on breeding but i have one question. you mention the male and all the testing but, at what age should the male be before studding him?
thanks so much
lisa

[Breeze]

Sherry, such awesome information you have given on this thread, it should be a sticky!!!

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

hi...i was very impressed with your knowledge on breeding but i have one question. you mention the male and all the testing but, at what age should the male be before studding him?
thanks so much
lisa

I have read that a male can father a litter around the age of 8 months, but is more fertile at a year or older.

[lisatodd]

thanks so much
lisa

[snickers mom]

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2

Std stand for Sexually Transmitted Disease

Brucellosis

Brucellosis is a disease caused by a bacteria, Brucella canis. It is found throughout the world. It is spread through contact with aborted fetuses and discharges from the uterus of infected bitches, during mating, through maternal milk and possibly through airborne transmission in some cases. The bacteria enters the body through mucous membranes and spreads from there to lymph nodes and the spleen. It also spreads to the uterus, placenta and prostate gland as well as other internal organs at times.

In female dogs, infection leads to abortion or early death of infected puppies. Infected females may have no other clinical signs. In some cases there may be decreased fertility rather than abortion. This may be due to resorption of fetuses early in their development.

In male dogs, infection of the testicles can lead to infertility due to anti-sperm antibodies developed as the body attempts to fight off the bacterial infection. The testes may atrophy after the initial period of swelling. Scrotal enlargement or infection of the skin over the scrotum may be seen.

In both female and male dogs there may be infection of spinal discs (diskospondylitis) which can cause back pain and rear leg weakness or even paralysis. Eye inflammation may be seen in either sex.

It is not usually possible to culture Brucella canis bacteria from the blood or affected tissues so diagnosis is usually done by titer testing. There is a kit available to veterinarians for testing in their office. It is usually best to retest any dogs found positive on this test with other testing methods since there is a fairly high rate of false positives using the in-house test kit.

Brucellosis is very difficult to treat successfully. A combination of minocycline and streptomycin is thought to be most effective but is expensive. Tetracycline can be substituted for the minocylcine to reduce costs but also lowers the effectiveness of treatment. All infected animals should be neutered or spayed to prevent sexually related transmission. All infected animals should be considered to be lifelong carriers of the disease, even if treated.

It would probably be best not to breed dogs without testing both the male and female for this disease. Breeding should be a deliberate choice -- not a random event! For breeding kennels, routine isolation of new dogs would be a very good idea. After isolation and negative tests at entry into the kennel and one month later, it should be safe to let the new dog mix with the others in the kennel. If infection is suspected at any time, quaternary ammomium (like Roccal Rx) and iodophor (Betadine Rx) disinfectants can kill Brucella organisms in the kennel to limit spread of the disease.

One last thing. It is possible that brucellosis caused by Brucella canis may be a zoonotic disease -- meaning that people could potentially be infected by this organism. It is something to think about when handling infected dogs. Wear gloves around any body fluids and be careful about contaminating yourself in any way.

i know that i wont be breeding but was still really curious and like to learn all i can about this wonderful lil puppy i have - thanks so much for responding
i was really surprised dogs can have std's that was good info

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by Breeze

Sherry, such awesome information you have given on this thread, it should be a sticky!!!

Thanks.. but I can't take credit for most of this ...all this info is what I have read in the threads, other places and by picking the brains of some of the long time breeders here.
These threads are your best way to understand the Joys and Heartbreaks of becoming a breeder. It gives you a heads up to the problem you may run into so you can be better prepared to handle it.
You don't have to agree with what everyone has to say or how they do things.
But give credit, where credit is DO.
Without the long time breeders here to share with us the pitfalls and their knowledge where would we be?
Every breeder has his or her way of doing things.
No right or wrong.. as long as you do right by what you are producting.
Which is the best pups possible.