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10-17-2005, 02:42 PM | #1 |
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| Biewer question...... I've been thinking about adding a Biewer or two or even tri-colored Yorkies (as pets only) to our family at some point but I'm wondering about a couple things first. Are Biewers larger than Yorkies or do they run the whole size chart too? Also, are their markings predictible or are they all marked differenly? |
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10-17-2005, 06:28 PM | #2 |
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| Biewers tend to be a tad bit larger than regular yorkies. As for their coloring it is more pridictable. Although I have seen biewer the exact same size as regular yorkies. So I guess they are the same. I am dying for one . I already made my research and my get a couple mid next year. |
10-17-2005, 07:57 PM | #3 |
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| I have 3 Biewers and they are totally different in their markings!!!! The mom of my current litter is very dark as opposed to the others who have more white on them. My parti male is marked more like my female, Ilsa, and their coats look different but it is hard to tell their backs apart in pics..I have a small male Biewer around 4 pounds if that. My females are both closer to 5-5 1/2 lbs.. I know a real beauty Biewer who is close to 8-9 lbs and is the most beautifully marked regal girl I have ever seen. So, I guess the answer is they are all individually marked and go up and down the weight scale just a Yorkies.. Villette has posted pics of all of mine on here, I think. You can also see them in my avatar... |
10-17-2005, 08:01 PM | #4 |
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10-17-2005, 08:06 PM | #5 | |
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10-17-2005, 08:17 PM | #6 |
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| I don't understand what you mean by bred down but I am assuming you do not mean their size. There have been parti/tri-color Yorkies born since the breed was introduced. When 2 dogs are bred that carry the piebald gene as a recessive, there is a good chance a piebald Yorkie can be born..As with every breed there were several different breeds used to develop the dog that we now know as YORKIE. If the background of the Yorkie is studied, one can very easily see how these colors can occur. Remi's parents are both standard colored. He is the adult in my avatar.... I love my standard colors but I also love my Biewers and my AKC reg parti male.. If these dogs had defects consistently, I certainly would NOT breed them as I would not breed standard colors with health problems.... The Biewers who worked to get these colors in healthy dogs named them and that is the reason they are called Biewer..otherwise they might have been called something else... |
10-17-2005, 08:40 PM | #7 | |
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10-18-2005, 06:01 AM | #8 | |
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10-18-2005, 06:07 AM | #9 |
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| Thank you chechinmipo, Rini and Snow Yorkies...your information was helpful. As you may know, I have 2 small male Yorkies, that's why I asked about the size of a Biewer...I would like to keep them all within a close size range. Jo is filling out a bit since he got neutered and may top off at about 4 pounds and that's probably what Riley will be also so I think a 5 pound addition would be o.k. We're just considering it at this point though. |
10-18-2005, 08:23 AM | #10 |
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| From what I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong) a biewer is a full bred yorkie. The Biewer indicates a specific coloring. Biewers and yorkies are like black and yellow labs- they're both labs, but their coloring is different. Biewer yorkies weren't yorkies that were mixed with another breed to achieve the look they have. As any yorkie lover knows, you can end up with "red yorkies" (Like Julz's baby Mercedes) chocolate yorkies (I believe Rini has a chocolate), parti yorkies with lighter or white markings, etc. Yorkies with the biewer markings were bred to continue to achieve this look. As Rini mention, a German couple, Mr. and Mrs. Biewer, worked hard to consistently acheive this look. This is like choosing a dam and a sire to breed to acheive a certain "look" like a small, baby-doll face. Whereas the variations in color were once looked down upon, this specific variation was embraced. Again- correct me if I'm wrong, but Biewers aren't accepted by AKC only because of a technicality- I think foreign registry, not because of "unacceptable" colors. They have the same colors as some parti yorkies that are AKC registered. I once spoke to a Biewer breeder who said that Biewers are on the larger side of the yorkie size range because the Germans haven't bred for the smaller yorkies like many American yorkie breeders have. |
10-18-2005, 06:31 PM | #11 |
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| Yes, Biewers are pure Yorkies not mixed with any other breed! The only difference is that the white coloring was kept and nurtured. Piebald yorkies have always been occuring in the breed but years ago breeders would "cull" these puppies because, heaven forbid, someone should find out that their dogs produced such "odd" colors. Mr. & Mrs. Biewer in Germany saw the beauty in this varation and decided to further the breeding and develope it into a healty and lovely dog. Yes, they do have specific markings as Snowyorkies, Sue, mentioned. Those definitely have to be there for them to be a true Biewer. I have a male and he is 13 months old and he's in the 8-9 lb range, but he's got a lovely structure to his body, solid, so I'm not too worried about his weight, the health is there. I think that there is still a lot of variation in their weight, and they are a little larger than our Yorkies here in the states. I'm sure that in years to come the breeders here will probably get their weight down to the Yorkies, but I personally would love to see them stay the way they are...
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10-18-2005, 07:24 PM | #12 | |
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10-19-2005, 04:53 AM | #13 | |
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10-19-2005, 07:09 AM | #14 |
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| "Biewer" pronunciation? Is it Bie as in Pie or as in Bee? Wer as in Ware or in Were or in Weer? Please, can you tell me the difference in Parti or Biewer? Is it simply where the white coloring is, or is it a direct descendent of Mr. Biewer's line? Appreciate your helpful information in the forum, you answer so many questions in layman's terms.
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10-19-2005, 07:16 AM | #15 | |
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I actually remember reading (possibly here) that it's pronounced like "beaver." The "w" in German is pronounced like the English "v". | |
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