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Old 09-13-2013, 05:06 AM   #31
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Hmmmmm I don't like your insinuations. Yes I am looking for a puppy in the future and yes I did ask her about her breeding program because I am interested in learning about the breeding of the dog breeds I prefer. Oh and before you assume this: I do not want to be a breeder. How it's done, why did a breeder start, how do you determine what is a good example of a breed, etc is all of interest to me. Just because I look at sonething or ask questions about it doesn't mean I agree with it or am going to endorse/buy it. It means I'm interested in the subject. If I go to a car dealership for Volvo does that mean I'm going to buy a Volvo? No, it means I'm interested in buying a car and I'm researching my options. Since you say my analogy didn't make any sense here you go: " You're refusing to give information(you dont know why she was asking for this information do you? Did she tell you herself? Maybe she's having problems with this line and wants.to know if others have too and came here for help that is partly what this forum is for right?) to someone who asked for it because of a preconceived notion you have for them or someone associated with them. By denying them this helpful information they will be unable to fully understand the damage they have or will have caused. How's that? As for not being your "fellow man" (did I name you specifically?)you proved my point. Unless some humans have taken a trip up the evolutionary chain or there's some X Men/Spider-Man stuff going on we're the same species. And where did I say people can't post their opinions? Looking....looking...looking...I don't see it.

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Old 09-13-2013, 05:25 AM   #32
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Please dont let how one person "left a bad taste in your mouth" stop you from posting! I've never heard of this particular breeder and have had no dealings with her so I can't give my opinion on whether she's a reputable breeder or not. I base my opinions on my own experiences with a person/situation . Is the bloodline you're referring to breeding for partis and nontraditional colors? I'm looking to add an "off color" yorkie to my bunch in the spring and you're located about 3 hours from Fort Hood. I would love to hear about your breeding program and see pics of your baby(ies). If you want feel free to pm me
Like I said, start saving your shekels. If you are looking at breeders like this one who needs to, as you believe, "learn" about breeding, then you are going to need deep pockets.
Just one look at her website would send me running if I were in the market.
Maybe you need to learn as much as you say she does...I don't know. All I can say is good luck.
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As for why she is here, I believe it has something to do with a new litter. I also believe she has been lurking here for a long time for the same reason many breeders do...they lurk and they sell. We have seen plenty of people post over the years with messed up puppies that they obtained due to receiving a private message...keep in mind that you cannot send a private message unless you have a YT account. She has been around long enough, as have I, to know that any advertisement is good advertisement for those who sell tinies and "teacups". Don't ever believe that they don't know what they are selling. There is far too much information out about it ... anyone who breeds them knows. They also know that there is a market for these poor babies ... people ignore the warnings and sadly the pups pay the price.

I normally avoid these types of threads, and will more than likely not read this one again. It makes me sick to see these things happening to this wonderful breed.

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Awww thanks for the advice on saving my "shekels" my family is well off so I don't think I will have to do that...as for assuming that I'm getting a pup from her AGAIN...there's a saying my high school English Teacher always said "Assuming makes....". Please don't assume anything about me. there's plenty of assumptions that could be made about you but it wouldn't be correct because I don't know you. Learning is a daily process ; we learn the most through life experiences I can honestly say I've yet to meet anyone who's "done learning". But what do I know? I'm only 25 maybe when I'm 40 I'll call it quits with learning. Either way I do hope you have a nice day and stay cool and indoors if you can!
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Hmmmmm I don't like your insinuations. Yes I am looking for a puppy in the future and yes I did ask her about her breeding program because I am interested in learning about the breeding of the dog breeds I prefer. Oh and before you assume this: I do not want to be a breeder. How it's done, why did a breeder start, how do you determine what is a good example of a breed, etc is all of interest to me. Just because I look at sonething or ask questions about it doesn't mean I agree with it or am going to endorse/buy it. It means I'm interested in the subject. If I go to a car dealership for Volvo does that mean I'm going to buy a Volvo? No, it means I'm interested in buying a car and I'm researching my options. Since you say my analogy didn't make any sense here you go: " You're refusing to give information(you dont know why she was asking for this information do you? Did she tell you herself? Maybe she's having problems with this line and wants.to know if others have too and came here for help that is partly what this forum is for right?) to someone who asked for it because of a preconceived notion you have for them or someone associated with them. By denying them this helpful information they will be unable to fully understand the damage they have or will have caused. How's that? As for not being your "fellow man" (did I name you specifically?)you proved my point. Unless some humans have taken a trip up the evolutionary chain or there's some X Men/Spider-Man stuff going on we're the same species. And where did I say people can't post their opinions? Looking....looking...looking...I don't see it.




I see it. Right there when you told people that if they disagree with someone's breeding practices they should send a private message.

Here is a radical suggestion. How about worrying about your own posts rather than telling people how you think they should respond?

I'm just curious at what point someone should research the lines they are breeding. I would think that logic would dictate one do it before you actually breed than after, but maybe that's just me.
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@ Rhetts mama isnt that the pot calling the kettle black? "Here's a radical suggestion why don't you worry about your own posts rather than telling people....". I asked why a pm couldn't be sent if there's an issue with her breeding practices. So the woman wouldnt feel like she shouldn't post in the future. I didnt tell anyone to pm her. there's a big difference yknow. If you see me TELLING someone what to do please quote it. And what I think is an opinion right? I thought having an opinion was ok. If it's not and the rules for this forum has changed let me know so I can make the necessary corrections. If you had read my previous post(s) I already stated I think(another one of those pesky opinions!)research should be done on a line before purchasing a pup from the line.

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Why should a PM be sent? How are others going to learn exactly what is wrong with certain breeding practices if it's all questioned in secret?


Your sharp tongue is showing.
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Is it really? Is my Degree/SAT/ACT showing also ? It's way too early for my smart mouth lol. I'm not saying question in secret . There are plenty of ppl on this forum's/off this forum's breeding(and other) practices I don't agree with and I'm not even a breeder. But I do know the best way to educate/criticise someone is not in front of a group of people and pinpoint every negative thing I find. People have the tendency to lash out and be on the defensive in situations like those. And there's almost no way to have an educational conversation with someone who is on the defensive because they dont want to listen to the correct information you have....I call it the teenager syndrome lol. If I know my bluntness is getting the best of me and there's a chance someone could be offended and I can't find a way to reword it I'll send a pm, or pull the person to the side so confrontation/bad tempers/ defensiveness can be kept to a minimum and my point can get across. Merely a suggestion
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And again, my suggestion is that people post the way that rings true to them.
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Your tone and implications about lack of intelligence "evolutionary..." is funny considering your tagline. Just sayin'

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Hmmmmm I don't like your insinuations. Yes I am looking for a puppy in the future and yes I did ask her about her breeding program because I am interested in learning about the breeding of the dog breeds I prefer. Oh and before you assume this: I do not want to be a breeder. How it's done, why did a breeder start, how do you determine what is a good example of a breed, etc is all of interest to me. Just because I look at sonething or ask questions about it doesn't mean I agree with it or am going to endorse/buy it. It means I'm interested in the subject. If I go to a car dealership for Volvo does that mean I'm going to buy a Volvo? No, it means I'm interested in buying a car and I'm researching my options. Since you say my analogy didn't make any sense here you go: " You're refusing to give information(you dont know why she was asking for this information do you? Did she tell you herself? Maybe she's having problems with this line and wants.to know if others have too and came here for help that is partly what this forum is for right?) to someone who asked for it because of a preconceived notion you have for them or someone associated with them. By denying them this helpful information they will be unable to fully understand the damage they have or will have caused. How's that? As for not being your "fellow man" (did I name you specifically?)you proved my point. Unless some humans have taken a trip up the evolutionary chain or there's some X Men/Spider-Man stuff going on we're the same species. And where did I say people can't post their opinions? Looking....looking...looking...I don't see it.
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I'm a complex person what can I say.lol. I put the tagline to make me stop and think before I post some of the things that come to mind. What I posted wasn't what I consider having a "sharp tongue" which is why I need that hehehe. Oh and I love Marvel Comics so I talk about them...alot.
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And one more thing because this is really irritating me.

Nobody refused to give information. Many people stepped up to provide a lot of information. It just wasn't the information she wanted to hear so she started calling names.

The OP is breeding and selling DOGS. The OP Advertises this line. A line that people have said carries a TON of problems.

The OP can also be responsible for real conversation she started. If she chooses to continue breeding her dogs - that is her choice NOT anyone's responsibility here.

How is it okay for you to chastise others and tell others what they should and should not post on?

Why don't you follow your own rules and post on the topic which is the line and breeder?
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Hmmmm I think I need to change my tagline...Did I criticize? I dont think so. I merely made suggestions...is that okay with you? As for posting on the topic. I did then the OP stated her feelings in a post for the same thread and I addressed that. again is that okay with you? The only person I give rules to is my 5 year old...never adults unless they visit my home. and again as for telling ppl how to post....I'll quote myself...again...." Isn't that the pot...." and so on. now about that tagline...
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You're refusing to give information(you dont know why she was asking for this information do you? Did she tell you herself? Maybe she's having problems with this line and wants.to know if others have too and came here for help
If that's what she wanted to know, why didn't she ask it? When I want to know something, I ask a question that will illicit responses that are directed towards the information I am trying to find. I don't ask "question A" hoping to get the answer to "question B." That makes no sense.

If she wanted to know if others had problems with the line, she should have asked, but didn't. However, she didn't ask that so why are you assuming that is what she wanted? You know what your high school English teacher said ....
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Thank you for all who extend courtesy to those who are seeking information. Whether you're being blunt (I'm pretty blunt myself and had to learn to soften my words with the setting I was working in) or gently providing your advice. I've met many people with yorkies since I've moved and I always tell them about this forum, but I've also had people tell me their reluctant to post because of some of the responses they've seen on different threads from the same people. It's ridiculous! If I saw a mother come in the clinic holding a baby wrong and she asked me about parenting would I automatically say "There's no hope for you! Or I'll be damned if I help you!" He!! No! Even if I think the mother is a dingbat and should never have had children to begin with. I'll deal with her for the benefit of the child because at the end of it all that's who I'm trying to help and who will be benefiting from the education I've given the mother and hopefully she will use it. If she doesn't I can at least say I tried Some people on this forum have so much compassion for animals and I applaud it but some are also completely lacking in compassion for their fellow "man".
Would you be nicey nice to a KNOWN pedophile to hope to educate and change them? No I would and will and DO sound the alarm to all I know...

Would you be nicey nice to a KNOWN murderer to educate and change them? No I will attend every parole hearing I can that involve my friends or family...to sound the alarm....

Would you be nicey nice to a KNOWN childabuser to educate and change them? No I will call social services or the police, have done it many times...No I won't pretend I don't see it... I will and do and have sounded the alarm....

Would you be NICEY NICE to a KNOWN Animal abuser to educate and change them? No I will report them to every single agency I can, I WILL SOUND THE ALARM AND I WILL POUND IT THE HELL HOME WHEN THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO COME HERE TO A YORKIETALK, MY SECOND HOME, A WEBSITE VIEWED BY MILLIONS AND TRY TO CON US....I WILL SOUND EVERY ALARM AT EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY I HAVE, WHILE I HAVE IT....

DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO POST OR ANY OF US, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, REPORT IT.
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