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Old 09-06-2012, 08:16 AM   #61
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Does the AKC or CKC do inspections? one breeders web site says this?
" American Kennel Club inspected breeder.
Last inspection August 1, 2012
"In Compliance""
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Does the AKC or CKC do inspections? one breeders web site says this?
" American Kennel Club inspected breeder.
Last inspection August 1, 2012
"In Compliance""
I'm assuming you are talking about the Canadian Kennel Club, since you’re from Canada, there is also another registry called the Continental Kennel Club in the states. Both the Canadian club and the AKC do unannounced routine inspections. I still urge people to visit the homes for themselves to make sure breeding dogs are kept in a way you feel is humane. The AKC just makes sure that the kennel conditions meet state law, they are really more interested in record keeping and making sure that the dogs are purebred.
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Somewhere on the AKC site it still says 4-7lbs because Gracielove has pointed it out to me however its not a standard its their guidelines for showing
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Somewhere on the AKC site it still says 4-7lbs because Gracielove has pointed it out to me however its not a standard its their guidelines for showing
This page has the written standard. Yorkshire Terrier Page While other pages may discuss common size, that is not the same as the written standard. For example this page: Yorkshire Terrier Page describes the Yorkie for people interested in buying one. It says,

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"Right Breed for You?

Yorkies are easily adaptable to all surroundings, travel well and make suitable pets for many homes. Due to their small size, they require limited exercise, but need daily interaction with their people. Their long coat requires regular brushing.

If you are considering purchasing a Yorkshire Terrier puppy, learn more here.

•Toy Group; AKC recognized in 1885.
Ranging in size from four to seven pounds.
•Companion, ratter.
This is just a description, and not the standard.
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Does the AKC or CKC do inspections? one breeders web site says this?
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Last inspection August 1, 2012
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Yes, they do.
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This page has the written standard. Yorkshire Terrier Page While other pages may discuss common size, that is not the same as the written standard. For example this page: Yorkshire Terrier Page describes the Yorkie for people interested in buying one. It says,



This is just a description, and not the standard.
That must have been what I read.

I thought it was 3.5 but yeah
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I see AKC has done quite a revamp of their whole website since I was there just about a week ago. They used to state just above the breed standard 4 to 7lbs. On this page that I found it is in an area called "Right Breed for You?" just above the standard.
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I haven't really looked around at what else they have changed on the site. Their previous site had a lot of different info areas so who knows what and where everything else is at this point!
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You could email her! I've talked with her out of curiosity and she is open to people coming to her house to see pups and parents. Somepeople just don't like having there names out there! I personally think shè would be a great breeder to buy from if your looking for the super cute tiny pup! She's not breeding to the standard because that's not want her customers want

shippernhorse signed up in August looks fishy! They say if it looks like a fish, smells like a fish it must be a fish....hmmmm wakes you wonder!
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The "breeder" seems to sell everything including the kitchen sink. From the few things I found online about her it appears she is into selling anything and everything. I am amazed she has time to take care of her pets.

She is doing totally irresponsible breeding. Disregarding every sort of professional and responsible breeding practices. This is another money making side line for her. Breeding for the "fashionable" but genetically inferior tiny breed dogs is only a money grabbing business. Although tiny dogs are very much in demand the public is uninformed about the health and safety issues that go with them. Tragic consequences result. Another careless as well as heartless breeder. If she had taken the time to learn about the genetics of breeding any purebred dog she would know that what she is doing is deadly and totally unfair to the unsuspecting buyer as well as the poor puppies that may survive her delinquent breeding practices.
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never mind...this breeder is a POS, she is everything that is unethical, everything that we are against and is only in it for the money, GREEDER. This breeder could care less about anything and judging from what I've seen on line...she's probably as illegal as they come....

But you, are her dream customer...so very sad, very very sad...because 2 wrongs never ever, make a right...

What would you suggest....that can be done to warn others...of the POS GREEDER who comes on here to try and justify her shady name hiding on her website so unsuspecting customers can't figure out who she is. I had to search pretty darn hard just to find anything but I am not very Internet savvy! lol
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Why dont you stick around and learn a bit before judging what is and isn't done here.

Its not gossip its quite factual.

No wonder you're having issues with reputable breeders...what her customers want...are you kidding me that is an insulting pathetic excuse for animal abuse and unethical breeding.
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Omg Woof Woof Puppies & Boutique SHOCKED!

UGGGGH! I just found this puppy mill broker on facebook with the cover of a boutique. Horrified! Upscale Dog Boutique & Puppies-WOOF WOOF PUPPIES & BOUTIQUE http://www.facebook.com/woofwoofpuppies just a fancy looking PUPPY MILL!Joanne Sesi | Facebook
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Did a Google search and this is what I found on them they are on a List of puppy selling stores Hall of Shame source http://www.meetup.com/puppymillawareness/messages/boards/thread/10031605
Hall of Shame
List of puppy selling stores

Red= current campaign

1. The Family Puppy, 3341 S. Linden Rd, Flint, Genesee
2. Puppy Place, 5080 Bull Run, Gregory, Livingston
3. Puppy Place, 3150 Crandall Rd, Howell, Livingston
4. The Family Puppy, 9950 Village Place, Brighton, Livingston
5. Pawsitively Paws, 434 W. Main Street, Brighton, Livingston
6. Family of Pets, 32457 Gratiot Road, Roseville, Macomb
7. Greenwood Pets & Plants, 13983 E 9 Mile Rd, Warren, Macomb
8. Pollywood Pets & Acc Inc, 237 N. River Rd, Mt. Clemens, Macomb
9. Shaggy Dog, 47567 Van Dyke, Utica, Macomb
10. Utica Pet Supply, 45460 Van Dyke Road, Utica, Macomb
11. Bark Avenue, 556 Rambow Drive, Monroe, Monroe
12. Downtown Hound Pet Center,150 N Monroe St, Monroe, Monroe
13. Family of Pets, 528 West 14 Mile Rd, Troy, Oakland
14. Petland, 27200 Novi Road Unit #106, Novi, Oakland
15. Teacups & Toys A Pet Boutique,271 Merrill Street, Birmingham, Oakland
16. The Family Puppy, 44125 W 12 Mile Rd, #121, Novi Oakland
17. Woof Woof Puppies & Pet Boutique, 29555 Northwestern Hwy, Southfield, Oakland
18. Pet Place, 6734 River Rd, Cottrellville, Saint Clair
19. Pet City Pets, 1254 Ecorse, Ypsilanti, Washtenaw
20. Bully Depot, 8417 W 8 Mile Rd Detroit, MI 48221, Wayne
21. Critter Pet Shop, 19309 Ecorse Road, Allen Park, Wayne
22. House of Pets, 29500 Ford Road, Garden City, Wayne
23. Pet City Pets, 2000 Eureka Rd, Wyandotte, Wayne
24. Westland Dog Food Company (K & S Pet Supplies Inc‎), 37697 Ford Road, Westland, Wayne

Watch List

1. Lisa's All Breed Dog & Cat Grooming, 57545 Van Dyke, Washington , Macomb
2. The Pet Vendor, 25021 Van Dyke, Center Line, Macomb
3. Bark Place Avenue Grooming, 130 E. University Dr, Rochester, Oakland
4. Dixieland Flea Market, 2045 Dixie Highway Waterford, Oakland
7. Pet Spa, 5260 Willis Road, Ypsilanti, Washtenaw
8. University Aquarium & Pet Shop Inc, 2561 Jackson Avenue, Ann Arbor, Washtenaw
9. Posh Pup, Inc., 10920 Farmington Road, Livonia, Wayne
10. Gibralter Trade Center, 15525 Racho Blvd Taylor, Wayne
11. Fantastic Fins, 38131 Ann Arbor Road, Livonia, Wayne

Would not take the Puppy Friendly Pet Store Pledge


1. Vett's Feeds & Pet Supply, P.O. BOX 296, Mt. Morris, Genesee
2. Dotty's Pet Ctr., 1375 E. Bristol Rd., Burton, Genesee
3. Dotty's Pet Ctr., 315 West Vienna Street, Clio, Genesee
4. Magoo's Outlet, 1234 N. Center Rd., Burton, Genesee
5. Magoo's Outlet, 4120 W. Pierson Rd., Flint, Genesee
6. Pet Provisions, 5757 Whitmore Lake Road, Brighton, Livingston
7. Pet Provisions, 1121 East Grand River Avenue Howell, Livingston
8. Lisa's All Breed Dog & Cat Grooming, 57545 Van Dyke, Washington, Macomb
9. All Creatures Great and Small , 39313 Garfield Rd, Clinton Twp, Macomb
10. Royal Tropical Fish – Bird, 134 Hartwick Avenue, Royal Oak, Oakland
11. Atlantis Fish Shoppe, 610 West 14 Mile Road, Troy, Oakland
12. Pet Beastro, 27637 John R Road, Madison Heights, Oakland
13. Best Pets, 29085 Dequindre Road, Warren, Oakland
14. Three Dog Bakery Inc,‎ 550 Forest Avenue, Plymouth, Washtenaw
15. Pets Needs, 28325 Telegraph, Flat Rock, Wayne
16. Pets Needs, 5664 North Telegraph, Dearborn Heights, Wayne
17. Fish Doctors, 8689 North Lilley Road, Canton, Wayne

Puppy Selling Pet Stores - Hall of Shame
Other Counties

30. Four Pawz, 13800 11 Mile Road, Ceresco, Calhoun
31. Brooklyn Pets , 250 Main Street, Brooklyn, Jackson
32. Pet Station, 1617 East Michigan Avenue, Jackson
33. Curious World Pet Centers, 609 28th Street SE, Grand Rapids, Kent
34. V.I. Pets, 6705 Division, Grand Rapids, Kent
35. V.I. Pets, 4191 Plainfield Ave NE, Grand Rapids, Kent
36. The Pet Stop, 621 W Washington St, Marquette, Marquette
37. Anne's Pet and Hobby Shop, 224 S. Lafayette, Greenville, Montcalm
38. Curious World Pet Centers, 7451 Union Ave, Jenison, Ottawa
39. V.I. Pets, 130 E Lakewood Blvd, Holland, Ottawa
40. Betty's Pet & Garden, 7921 W Houghton Lake Drive, Houghton Lake, Roscommon
41. Ocean Odyssey, 3100 Boardwalk, Saginaw

Michigan Puppy Selling Pet Stores
as of 2/1/11
Blue text = No prior Pet Shop License

1. Animal Kingdom (Pet Paradise prior to 2008, 2008 Dog Gone Classy), 933 Gratiot Avenue, Saginaw
2. Anne's Pet and Hobby Shop, 224 S . Lafayette, Montcalm
3. Bark Avenue, 556 Rambow Drive, Monroe, Monroe
4. Bark Place Avenue Grooming, 130 E. University Dr, Rochester, Oakland
5. Barking Babes Pet Boutique, 108 South Leroy Street, Fenton, Genesee

6. Betty's Pet & Garden, 7921 W Houghton Lake Drive. Houghton Lake, Roscommon
7. Brooklyn Pets, 250 Main Street, Jackson
8. Bully Depot, 8417 W 8 Mile Rd Detroit, MI 48221, Wayne
9. Critter Pet Shop, 19309 Ecorse Road, Allen Park, Wayne
10. Curious World Pet Centers, 609 28th Street SE, Grand Rapids, Kent
11. Curious World Pet Centers, 7451 Union Ave, Jenison, Ottawa
12. Downtown Hound Pet Center,150 N Monroe St, Monroe, Monroe
13. Fantastic Fins,‎ 38131 Ann Arbor Road, Livonia, Wayne
14. Four Pawz, 13800 11 Mile Road, Ceresco, Calhoun
15. Greenwood Pets & Plants, 13983 E 9 Mile Rd, Warren, Macomb
16. House of Pets, 29500 Ford Road, Garden City, Wayne
17. John, 22525 Ecorse Rd. (Taylortown Trade Center),Taylor, Wayne
18. Nancy's Suggies, 22525 Ecorse Rd. (Taylortown Trade Center),Taylor, Wayne
19. Ocean Odyssey, 3100 Boardwalk, Saginaw, Saginaw
20. Parkside Builders Inc, 4413 Kensington Road, Brighton Twp, Livingston
21. Pawsitively Spoiled, 434 W. Main Street, Brighton, Livingston
22. Paws-n-Claws Pet Supplies, 19100 E. 10 Mile, Eastpointe, Macomb
23. Pet City Pets, 1254 Ecorse, Ypsilanti, Washtenaw
24. Pet City Pets, 2000 Eureka Rd, Wyandotte, Wayne
25. Pet Place, 6734 River Rd, Cottrellville , Saint Clair
26. Pet Station, 1617 East Michigan Avenue, Jackson, Jackson
27. Pet Station, 5317 South Telegraph, Dearborn Heights, Wayne
28. Petland, 27200 Novi Road Unit #106, Novi, Oakland
29. Pitter Patter Puppies, (Gibraltar Trade Center) 237 N. River Rd, Mt. Clemens, Macomb
30. Pollywood Pets & Acc Inc, (Gibraltar Trade Center) 237 N. River Rd, Mt. Clemens, Macomb
31. Pretty Pooch, 8225 Gratiot, Saginaw, Saginaw
32. Puppy Love Puppies, 3718 Loton Dr, Fort Gratiot, Saint Clair
33. Puppy Place, 3150 Crandall Rd, Howell, Livingston
34. Puppy Place, 5080 Bull Run, Gregory, Livingston
35. Shaggy Dog, 47567 Van Dyke, Utica, Macomb
36. Teacups & Toys A Pet Boutique,271 Merrill Street, Birmingham, Oakland
37. The Bully Depot (ENJ Pets) Gibralter Trade Center, 15525 Racho Blvd Taylor, Wayne
38. The Doggie Parlor, 20900 Kelly Road, Eastpointe, Macomb
39. The Family Puppy / Family of Pets, 32457 Gratiot Road, Roseville, Macomb
40. The Family Puppy / Family of Pets, 528 West 14 Mile Rd, Troy, Oakland
41. The Family Puppy, 3341 S. Linden Rd, Flint, Genesee
42. The Family Puppy, 44125 W 12 Mile Rd, #121, Novi Oakland
43. The Family Puppy, 9950 Village Place, Brighton, Livingston
44. The Pet Stop, 621 W Washington St, Marquette, Marquette
45. Utica Pet Supply, 45460 Van Dyke Road, Utica, Macomb
46. V.I. Pets, 130 E Lakewood Blvd, Holland, Ottawa
47. V.I. Pets, 4191 Plainfield Ave NE, Grand Rapids, Kent
48. V.I. Pets, 6701 S Division, Grand Rapids, Kent
49. V.I. Pets, 7640 Riverview Drive, Jenison, Ottawa
50. Westland Dog Food Company (K & S Pet Supplies Inc‎), 37697 Ford Road, Westland, Wayne
51. World Gardenland Sea World, 29800 Gratiot Ave, Roseville, Macomb
52. Uptown Pets, 6109 S Westnedge, Portage, Kalamazoo
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I just looked at some of the pics. I saw a pic of a puppy in a big white bed. I thought was only a few weeks old. They said it was 13 wks at 14 oz OMG! Bless its little heart. It looked so sad. I could not believe this pup was that old. I could not imagine having a puppy that small. And the the puppy will be less then 2 lbs when it is an adult. I can not believe the ethics of that breeder. Why would . . .what I am not even going to finish that question. . .GREEED!!!!. . . .
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There is a chain puppy boutique in a near by city called THE PUPPY PATCH. Supposedly these people are "groomers" that sell small breed designer dogs as part of their business. They have a website that shows pictures of the current inmates. Very sad. Maybe they think it will increase their "grooming" business. Since anyone can call them selves a groomer I suspect their main income is from the puppies they broker.
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I just looked at some of the pics. I saw a pic of a puppy in a big white bed. I thought was only a few weeks old. They said it was 13 wks at 14 oz OMG! Bless its little heart. It looked so sad. I could not believe this pup was that old. I could not imagine having a puppy that small. And the the puppy will be less then 2 lbs when it is an adult. I can not believe the ethics of that breeder. Why would . . .what I am not even going to finish that question. . .GREEED!!!!. . . .
13 weeks old and 14 oz. ??? Wow! That's very tiny. My Rosie just had a litter (they are 6 weeks old tomorrow) and I have a small one that is 15 oz. She is very small. The rest are over a pound. BUT 13 weeks and 14 oz? Praying it's not sickly.
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