curious to having a litter... info please!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

oh no Debra not a curse very helpful actually! there more people write the more I can leaden and know exactly what to research and talk to my vet about... again I will give a better reply to you all when I'm at my computer and not my iTouch lol the small text hurts my eyes! and my hubby is using the computer lol

also I believe she may have started her "period" today as I noticed the crustiness and thought she peed in the house somewhere but I looked closer and sure enought dry blood... 8 months is that about right for her to start and at this time of year? what do you guys do during your females periods to keep blood from potentially getting on the bed or carpet? so far it isn't messy at all not a drop anywhere it seems to dry and get crusty. Should I be washing it for good hygene?

Since there is a possibility that you will become a breeder someday you might want to begin with using the right terminology.

Dog's don't have periods, they are either in Heat or in Season. Average age for a first time heat is 9 - 14 months of age.

Yorkie female show very little color during their heat cycle. Most of the time being able to see the bloody show is immediately after she urinates and she is blotted with a tissue.

I usually wipe my girls after they urinate with a baby wipe.

[sweet_tikka]

Yes! Finally sitting down at my computer so I can reply. :P
Okay because I'm behind on replies, I'm gonna make this easy on myself, everyone who strictly gave advice, thank you so much, whether it was the scary but truthful stuff, or the good resources stuff! All great input. Now, for those that asked me questions I'll try to answer them all! Here we go...

@Tcarnagie: Why would anyone want to breed their yorkie if that's your question... right? I really do love her, and that's why I am asking all of these questions and getting info NOW while I still have a year and a half before I'd even breed her or start looking to. And after a lot of these posts, I definitely don't know if I could bare to lose her, although I will be saving money up for this if I decide to do it, and if not well then LOTS of money for me and her to go shopping on haha!... although at this point I'm at about 70% not going to just because I would hate hate hate to lose her, she's only been here 5 days and I'm seriously in love with her! And thanks for the mentoring idea, lots have people have mentioned that, I definitely would NOT do it on my own. I've birthed German Shorthair's with my uncle as he used to breed registered/ great hunting lines, but those are a lot diff. type of dog haha.

@FLDebra I'm not sure why she is not registered... a lot of puppies are sold like that in Alberta... the ad will read "CKC [or AKC] registered parents with parents and papers on site, pups not registered" Some people will even not register the pups with the option for you to pay extra for them to register... I'm not really sure why she isn't. If her parents are does that mean I should be able to register her myself? Does it really cost that much that people wouldn't do it unless the buyer pays for it?

She was seven pounds when I brought her home, I took her into the vet for a weigh and for a diet plan from the vet as she didn't come with food or a meal plan, just her vet papers with all her info from Aug-Dec. He said she could stand to loose a pound. So I have her on a meal plan, once at 7 or 8am and again at 5 or 6pm She's at about 6.45 right now. I believe her bowl was just kept full at her old home and that she scarfed it every time. We'll see what happens in the months to come! If she does mature over 7lbs even if her parents are registered does that mean she can't be? As far as her body goes you can look at my album and I have some full body shots of her

My previous dogs "history":
I got my first dog when I was about 9 or 10, I brought him home from a guy that was giving away puppies outside of the school haha... yes he gave me a little 9/10 yr old a small 8 week old puppy no problem no questions lol. He was a HUGE black lab I loved him so much but he was stolen from our yard during that summer
My second dog was when I was 16, a boyfriend surprised me with a chuggle, Guapo, from his aunt's litter [longhairedchiXpuggle] a year later he ran out my front door when my brother was watching him, he ran across the street to greet a walker and a car hit him, at 17 I spent my savings to save him even when the vet said less than 50% chance of survival, he indeed died.
And then three years ago I got two brothers from a Beagle/Maltese litter, Charlie and Snoopy and when I got married I had to leave them with my family as they were too big for out apartment and had become family dogs, not just mine, and my parents divoriced this past July [week before my wedding] so they are with my dad. Still love those guys!
And now there's Pooter, a rescue I received this past October and he's been so much work and such a great little guy, he went from knowing nothing and in three weeks I had him doing sit, paw, down, up, dance, highfive, and BANG! him and Tikka are just in love with eachother... in a good way. He's neutered and doesn't even know what to do with a girl. But she licks his face and he loves wrestling her.

All of those dogs were paid for and taken care of by my, even at 9 when I obviously couldn't work... my parents paid for the food and treats, but I had to walk/feed/water/excersize him. Same with Guapo, and Charlie and Snoopy... even tho those two were more family bets I had to pay for the food, toys, treats, etc because I was the one that wanted them. I did learn from Guapo NEVER leave my dogs with someone not used to treating a dog like a child... he was also a one of kind little guy.

@Gemy I guess I'm confused as to why she isn't registered now too... although I wasn't at first because a lot of dogs are sold non registered from two registered parents up here.


But I am trying to get a hold of the family I bought her from so I can get a hold of the breeder to 1. let her know I bought the dog. 2. make sure the previous owner didn't fail to tell me about a spay contract and 3. to find out about her parents/family/registration

Also, I'm a stay at home wife, I am a photographer, but that only keeps me away for maybe an hour a day 2-3 times a week... so I'm home 99% of the time as far as taking time off for a litter. Lol but at this point... I'm leaning more towards no. She is just the perfect little girl for me, the complete opposite of Pooter, although he is amazing too. She is such a cuddler/attention seeker and loooves to play and sleep with me.... if I lost her... I'd be devestated.



And there is your novel everyone haha! I'll try to stay on top of the replies better

[sweet_tikka]

Mardelin: Thank you I knew it's called heat/season I just didn't know if that covered the whole deal or if the actual bleeding had a diff. name.

Also, Debra... you said this is her most potent week... so it only lasts a week? And I've heard it happens twice a year, usually sometime in Spring and again in Fall?

I guess she's almost 9 months on Sunday so looks like she's right on time... I'm glad it's not as messy as I was expecting lol. Do they get worse as they mature... or is usually always like this? I have blotted it for her with a clean soft cloth, as it just looks icky and dirty and I know I would want to be cleaned up if I was her lol

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

Mardelin: Thank you I knew it's called heat/season I just didn't know if that covered the whole deal or if the actual bleeding had a diff. name.

Also, Debra... you said this is her most potent week... so it only lasts a week? And I've heard it happens twice a year, usually sometime in Spring and again in Fall?

I guess she's almost 9 months on Sunday so looks like she's right on time... I'm glad it's not as messy as I was expecting lol. Do they get worse as they mature... or is usually always like this? I have blotted it for her with a clean soft cloth, as it just looks icky and dirty and I know I would want to be cleaned up if I was her lol

Her Heat Cycle lasts 21 days. However, to be on the safe side I always keep the girls I'm not planning to breed during that cycle completely seperate from any males.

Heat Cycle:

Week One - Better described as "Coming In" Last 7 days. Description - Vulva turns pink and begins to swell.

Week Two - "Showing Color". Lasts 7 days - Description....Begins to bleed goes from a light pink to dark red and then back to pink or brownish.

Week Three - "In" - Lasts 7 days - Description....Breeding Time, this is when she is fertile and will stand for a male. Usually around the 10th day from "Showing Color", however, this is average for females. Some will ovulate prior to showing color, some don't ovulate until the 16th day of showing color. Keep in mind the day she is bred may not be when she concieves. Canine Reproduction is a long subject and can't be completely gone through in a short one paragraph.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

Mardelin: Thank you I knew it's called heat/season I just didn't know if that covered the whole deal or if the actual bleeding had a diff. name.

Also, Debra... you said this is her most potent week... so it only lasts a week? And I've heard it happens twice a year, usually sometime in Spring and again in Fall?
I guess she's almost 9 months on Sunday so looks like she's right on time... I'm glad it's not as messy as I was expecting lol. Do they get worse as they mature... or is usually always like this? I have blotted it for her with a clean soft cloth, as it just looks icky and dirty and I know I would want to be cleaned up if I was her lol

This also is dependent on the female and when her biological cycle clock has been set up.

Some girls will only come into Season once a year. However, it is usually set by months. Some every 6 months others 8 months and other's 10 months....So, it will not happen by the Season's of the year.

And no, they don't get worse as they mature. Yorkies are also known to be very clean animals.....and are constantly cleaning themselves.

[sweet_tikka]

Thanks Mardelin that was really helpful too... So I guess I wont know how often her heat cycle is until she has her next one... which could be next April, or in 6 month, 8 months, 10 months etc.

She is SO clean, I think she may be in her second week since there is red blood getting dried up, but I notice her licking her self a lot which she didn't start doing until I noticed the blood and wiped her off a bit... then she was like "oh, what's that?" now I see her cleaning up a lot lol.

I have been taking her to the ball diamond to practice her off leash manners, but looks like we'll be holding off for a couple more weeks! Just incase... there's never other dogs there, but people do walk through occassional with dogs... no chances!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by gemy

Just wanted to point out this OP is from Canada. CKC here means Canadian Kennel Club.
Having said that reputable breeders will register their litters with CKC and they are required to transfer the registration to the new owner/puppy buyer at time of sale.
So I'm confused as to why her dog is NOT registered.

I am wiping the egg off my face! I need to watch that! I did not see that she was in Canada but I should have checked! World of difference between the Canadian Kennel Club and the Continental Kennel Club .

Please belay my comments saying I would never breed a dog registered with the CKC -- I should have specified that I would not breed dogs registered with the Continental Kennel Club but WOULD breed dogs registered with the Canadian Kennel Club if they were otherwise breeding candidates.

That will teach me to post after 10 pm at night! Thanks Gemy for catching that so that poor information is not left to stand on the forum without explanation! Like you, though, I am still confused as to why the breeder did not register the litter.

[sweet_tikka]

Yeah I will let you know if I get ahold of the breeder as to the registration questions.

If you go to kijiji.ca and choose Alberta then just search in dogs, puppies for sale for "yorkies" there are usually quite a fews ad's for puppies from registered parents, but pups are not registered.

Like I asked... it is really that costly to register? Or are they just trying not to give people the papers? Etc.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

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Also, Debra... you said this is her most potent week... so it only lasts a week? And I've heard it happens twice a year, usually sometime in Spring and again in Fall?

I guess she's almost 9 months on Sunday so looks like she's right on time... I'm glad it's not as messy as I was expecting lol. Do they get worse as they mature... or is usually always like this? I have blotted it for her with a clean soft cloth, as it just looks icky and dirty and I know I would want to be cleaned up if I was her lol

I did not say this was her most potent week. The only time I mentioned "most potent week" was explaining how determined male dogs will be during that time. I think you misunderstood. I have no idea of the timing of your dogs' heat cycle.

My experience with yorkies is that they are not very messy. Mine bled lightly and took care of keeping herself pretty well cleaned up. But I would still keep a diaper on her as you will find evidence after the fact if you don't. Those little spots tend to show up more later. Then take the diaper off as you take her outside for potty and leave it off long enough for her to do a thorough cleaning. You can use the baby wipes to make a clean pass before putting her diaper back on.

In your other post, you asked questions about registering her -- since we have determined you are dealing with CKC (Canadian Kennel Club), I can't help much. Not familiar with them. But I bet they will have a website like the AKC does, and you can look up the requirements. Her size will not have anything to do with registering. The way AKC works, if the mother and father were registered, then the breeder can register the litter. Normally that is all the breeder does. They will receive applications for registration for all pups in the litter from AKC. When they sell a puppy, they give the new owner one application and then they can register their own pup. So, most puppies here in the US are actually sold without being fully registered -- but the new owner leaves with that application and that is sort of thought of as the puppy's "papers." I feel it is important to register your pup, if that is possible. So, I encourage you to contact the breeder to see if they did register the litter and if not, find out why not.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

Yeah I will let you know if I get ahold of the breeder as to the registration questions.

If you go to kijiji.ca and choose Alberta then just search in dogs, puppies for sale for "yorkies" there are usually quite a fews ad's for puppies from registered parents, but pups are not registered.

Like I asked... it is really that costly to register? Or are they just trying not to give people the papers? Etc.

Like I answered, I am not familiar with CKC -- only AKC but I did look it up for you. The CKC fees are listed here: http://www.ckc.ca/en/portals/0/pdf/c...%282011%29.pdf Looks like it cost anywhere between $20.80 to almost $80.00 depending on how old the puppy is and if the person is a CKC member or not.

[sweet_tikka]

Thanks so much Debra! I am really hoping the owners will get back to me so I can find out who bred her and how I can contact them... although I'm leaning towards not breeding her because I am way too in love with her if she were to die... I wouldn't mind finding out about her family history and why she isn't registered and if I can register her at all.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

Thanks so much Debra! I am really hoping the owners will get back to me so I can find out who bred her and how I can contact them... although I'm leaning towards not breeding her because I am way too in love with her if she were to die... I wouldn't mind finding out about her family history and why she isn't registered and if I can register her at all.

People selling CKC pups are NOT allowed to charge extra for the registration of the dog. www.ckc.ca It is against the rules. this also includes transferring the ownership over to you.

In reality of course the breeders include in the cost of the dog, all costs associated to raise and register the litter. So if a breeder advertises a dog for sale at $1300, they can't say "oh well if you want to register the dog" that will be $25 extra.

I'm not sure of the policy if the litter was never registered; I will try to look up the rules and regs today; hopefully they have them on line. If I am unlucky the CKC website does have a toll free number, the department you want is Registration.

[sweet_tikka]

Thanks Gemy!
Im going to read through the CKC site later... I never knew that about charging for registering a puppy... I see it in ads ALL the time they say something like ... will register the pup for an extra 100. So they`re even trying to profit of that! Sheesh some people. I really hope I can get some answers from her owners before me

[gemy]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

Yeah I will let you know if I get ahold of the breeder as to the registration questions.

If you go to kijiji.ca and choose Alberta then just search in dogs, puppies for sale for "yorkies" there are usually quite a fews ad's for puppies from registered parents, but pups are not registered.

Like I asked... it is really that costly to register? Or are they just trying not to give people the papers? Etc.

Well first I don't know of any reputable Canadian breeders that advertise on kijiji. But I guess that maybe there could be some. I would be very skeptical of any breeder who breeds"registered" parents, but then doesn't register the litter. If they "cut" costs there, where else are they cutting costs?

Each dog when registered will get a unique identifying number, called the registration number. You have the right to know what those numbers are of the sire/dam of your pup.

That;s all for now

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

Yeah I will let you know if I get ahold of the breeder as to the registration questions.

If you go to kijiji.ca and choose Alberta then just search in dogs, puppies for sale for "yorkies" there are usually quite a fews ad's for puppies from registered parents, but pups are not registered.

Like I asked... it is really that costly to register? Or are they just trying not to give people the papers? Etc.

Mmmm. You posted Kijiji......speaking and knowing several reputable Canadian Breeders....this somewhere you would not venture to purchase a pup.

You may never, ever get any papers from said breeders.