Originally Posted by FlDebra
(Post 3396643)
The OP asked a hypothetical question that no ethical, intelligent person could reply with ONLY a yes or no answer. I just read through the whole thread at once, & don’t see where anyone bashed or torched her. She accused others of being harsh with their response, when I saw a very civil response with well thought out information. Look at how the thread started. She asked a question, then got “miffed” when it was not answered after 11 minutes! Then when she was asked questions, she did not answer them at all!
The pup is only 13 weeks old; the OP has had her since the 12th of this month! She’s 4 pounds now but no one knows what size she will be. Will she wind up ounces over the standard and perfect in all other aspects? Will she be a couple of pounds over the standard? How about the parents, grandparents and all of the litters from each side? Are pups running large? Medium? Small? Just sticking to the one issue of size -- it is not just the dam’s size that is important in breeding. My own opinion, is to breed within standard. If she is a few ounces over and everything else looked great, I could understand breeding her. 2 pounds over, it would not matter what else entailed, I would not breed her. JMO.
But no one knows much about this pup. Searching other threads, I did find where she said the sire was petite, but the dam was “larger.“ If the dam was over standard, and this puppy turns out over standard, I would not breed her. I saw where the OP said she bought Paisley “from a friend that raises them” and then in this thread she says, “I bought this puppy from a local person because the owner suddenly died of a heart attack. They needed homes for their dogs, and they needed money fast. So I jumped on it, decided it was a win win situation. I get a new puppy and they get help with their need to find homes quickly, and get money quickly for their funeral expenses.*“ Whichever one it was, I have to say that it would be a freaking miracle if a breeding quality pup was obtained under the circumstances described. Just saying….. ANSWER - A man died. he raised these dogs. I went to school with his sons. So essentially they are FRIENDS and they are LOCAL. Nothing confusing about it.
Breeding dogs don't usually just land in your lap like that. ANSWER - In this case, yes, it did just land in my lap.
Normally, you go look at scores and scores of puppies after researching the breeders. You love every puppy you see, and think they all would make adorable pets, but you keep looking for the one that has the "look." You look not just at the pups, but you are carefully evaluating the parents, and littermates, asking about grown pups from same matings. You are looking at their bite, their head shape, their coat (silky & straight). You check their structure, checking joints, topline, etc... I could go on. (BTW -- MOST of what I learned to check for when I bought mine, I learned from the exhibitor/breeders right here on YT.
ANSWER - We did all of that while I was there. The owners were very helpful and informative, but since they are dealing with a death in their family I have no wanted to bother them with a bunch of questions right now.
Not a one of them ever turned me away or refused to share their extensive knowledge and experience with me. They helped me every time I asked and sometimes when I didn't know enough to ask.
ANSWER - Adain as I said the owners are grieving a death in their family right now. I'm not going to bother them. Understandable?
They didn’t always give me the answer I wanted, but I realized I could count on them to give me the RIGHT answer. Anyone can tell you what you want to hear -- it takes someone who cares & is willing to risk the wrath to tell it like you need to hear it. They knew full-well I was not showing and had no intentions of showing at that time. Still, they did not hold back their help. They were generous with their mentoring!! They saved my last litter of pups. So, I am not sure why anyone would think they are not up for helping everyone.)
Even after using as much selective process as you feel possible, you are still buying a puppy and so many things can change between 13 weeks and adulthood when you could be seriously considering them for breeding. No one has to learn it all in one day but I don’t think anyone has tried to overwhelm in this thread. Neither has anyone tried to talk down or belittle the OP. They have tried to get her to realize it is much too early to be considering this puppy for breeding. I used to teach stress management and we quoted Hans Selye a lot. He thought there were positive & negative stressors but most were actually NEUTRAL until by our own THINKING, we turned then into a positive or negative stressors. Seems like that concept is working in this thread where people are taking NEUTRAL comments and by THEIR OWN THINKING, turning them into NEGATIVES. In this case I would say your PERCEPTIONS are NOT always your reality, no matter how hard you try. ;) |