Opinions please

[chachi]

I think thats too high unless your intentions are to breed or show

[LunasMomma]

I am not a breeder, nor do I claim to have anywhere NEAR the knowledge that some of our dear members here have, but I noticed a few red flags on that website. One of her dams is 2.5 lbs, another was 9 years old and still having puppies If I were going to spend that amount of hard-earned money on a puppy, it wouldn't be from this breeder. Just my humble opinion.

Good luck in your search!!!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by chachi

I think thats too high unless your intentions are to breed or show

Agreed, if a breeder sells a breeder/show quality to an unknown that would be another red flag.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by LunasMomma

I am not a breeder, nor do I claim to have anywhere NEAR the knowledge that some of our dear members here have, but I noticed a few red flags on that website. One of her dams is 2.5 lbs, another was 9 years old and still having puppies If I were going to spend that amount of hard-earned money on a puppy, it wouldn't be from this breeder. Just my humble opinion.

Good luck in your search!!!

I didn't check out her website, but a 2.5 pound dam and another being bred at 9 years of age would definately make me proceed with caution, if at all.

There are so many things that require evaluation when attempting to find that breeder. So many have learned to talk the talk and have become excellent sales people. They know what to say and do to make that sale. As a prospective puppy buyer as well as a breeder, both need to look into each other's hearts and have a keen sense in judging a person's character.

[gemy]

I've taken a look at her breeding dams, and can't seem to see where there are any toybox champions. I also did not see a 9 yr old female being bred, but maybe in a different section of the website.

Definitely one of her females is off standard color for sure.

She lists none of the pre-breeding tests she does. That I could find on the site; just a statement they do the tests based on what the vet tells them is necessary. Caution: Most vets are NOT up to date on every breed, and what tests should be done for that breed.

As far as temperament goes; the OP should be clear in her mind, what kind of temperament of the dog she is looking for. Obviously, we all want a stable dog, but do you want a wee pistol, an inquisitive explorer, a quiet more laid back personality, a cuddle bug, or an independent spirit, high energy or lower.

God knows I love my wee Razz, but he would not be to everyone's taste. He is mischevious, active, stubborn, can be yippy, and gets into everything. He knows he is a lion, and has a whole lot of courage. Which can get him into a whole lot of trouble He also likes to cuddle (on his schedule), but emulates the big doggies, and often just lays at my feet.

[Elle]

Are you sure you read that correct? I'm concerned that facts are stayed.

Originally Posted by LunasMomma

I am not a breeder, nor do I claim to have anywhere NEAR the knowledge that some of our dear members here have, but I noticed a few red flags on that website. One of her dams is 2.5 lbs, another was 9 years old and still having puppies If I were going to spend that amount of hard-earned money on a puppy, it wouldn't be from this breeder. Just my humble opinion.

Good luck in your search!!!

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by gemy

I've taken a look at her breeding dams, and can't seem to see where there are any toybox champions. I also did not see a 9 yr old female being bred, but maybe in a different section of the website.

From the Dams section:
EDGEWOOD BUDDING BEAUTY
DOB: 6-17-95
Sire: CH. RADNORS AMADEUS
dam: EDGEWOOD SMOOTH MOVE TO AMI



Almost all of the foundation lines here at Toybox revert back to Lizzie. This is the Great, Great Grandma to Twiggy and Jade. The Great Grandma to Ruby; The Grandmother to Demi...She is also the Mother of Half Pint; Grandmother of Topper and Tiara. She is the oldest dog here at Toybox Yorkies. Lizzie came to us from Cynthia J. Hill, Edgewood Kennels when Ruby was born. She had a litter the exact same day so when Ruby's Mother died, Lizzie Fostered Ruby along with her own 4 puppies. (Little Squirt is one of the 4 puppies born 0n 6-26-04)

If I am reading this right, Lizzie was born in 1995, and had a litter 6-26-04, which would make her 9 years old when she had the pups.

The 2.8ozs is one of her sires.

TOYBOX'S ROCK THE BOAT FOR GALLANT (ROCKY)
DOB: 7-29-06
SIRE: GALLANT'S SIR PHILLIP
DAM: AMEDURE'S WEDGEWOOD MACEY





ROCKY IS A VERY SMALL 2.8 OZ. MALE WHO IS CUTER THEN CUTE! JUST LOOK AT HIM. WE ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO GET HIM TO MATE TO ONE OF OUR GIRLS. HOPEFULLY THAT DAY WILL COME SOON. WATCH FOR HIS PUPS!

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

From the Dams section:
EDGEWOOD BUDDING BEAUTY
DOB: 6-17-95
Sire: CH. RADNORS AMADEUS
dam: EDGEWOOD SMOOTH MOVE TO AMI



Almost all of the foundation lines here at Toybox revert back to Lizzie. This is the Great, Great Grandma to Twiggy and Jade. The Great Grandma to Ruby; The Grandmother to Demi...She is also the Mother of Half Pint; Grandmother of Topper and Tiara. She is the oldest dog here at Toybox Yorkies. Lizzie came to us from Cynthia J. Hill, Edgewood Kennels when Ruby was born. She had a litter the exact same day so when Ruby's Mother died, Lizzie Fostered Ruby along with her own 4 puppies. (Little Squirt is one of the 4 puppies born 0n 6-26-04)

If I am reading this right, Lizzie was born in 1995, and had a litter 6-26-04, which would make her 9 years old when she had the pups.

The 2.8ozs is one of her sires.

TOYBOX'S ROCK THE BOAT FOR GALLANT (ROCKY)
DOB: 7-29-06
SIRE: GALLANT'S SIR PHILLIP
DAM: AMEDURE'S WEDGEWOOD MACEY








ROCKY IS A VERY SMALL 2.8 OZ. MALE WHO IS CUTER THEN CUTE! JUST LOOK AT HIM. WE ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO GET HIM TO MATE TO ONE OF OUR GIRLS. HOPEFULLY THAT DAY WILL COME SOON. WATCH FOR HIS PUPS!

Thanks I now see ... and yes I believe this is what it says

[Rhetts_mama]

Holy cow. $3000 for a pet? Unless it poops gold I can't imagine anyone paying that. If it were me and I were truly looking for just a pet (and had that kind of money to spend), I would go to a rescue, pay their fee and donate the rest to either the rescue or humane society. Can you imagine how much good a donation like that could bring?

[kalina82]

TOYBOX'S OUT ON A LIMB DOB: 1-10-07
sire: NATALIE'S OBVIOUS INTENTIONS
dam: TOYBOX'S EXQUISITE JEWEL (RUBY)

Twiggy got her name because when she was 9 weeks old we had to rush her to the vets for a severe case of Low Blood Sugar (LBS). It turned out she was there for 10 days and when she came home needed dextrose every 2 hrs. round the clock for a week, every 4 hrs. the following week and so on till finally her sugar seemed to even off. Since she turned 3 months we have never had another problem with Twiggy of a physical nature. Twiggy is called the BAD GIRL OF TOYBOX YORKIES - all 2 1/2 lbs. of her. she wears shirts that say "I DO BAD THINGS" "BEEN THERE, CHEWED THAT" "DON'T LET THE CUTE THING FOOL YA" AND "I MAY BE SMALL BUT I'M THE BOSS". Twiggy has done modeling for Doggie Couture Lines with her Mom Ruby, as well as be my companion on almost all road trips I take. She plays with all the dogs here in the house but would much rather be in your lap if you walk in the door or sit on the couch.

[jacquelinebabco]

Thank you all for taking time to enlighten me. I appreciate all your opinions and I now have a lot of "food for thought". I believe most of you have more knowledge than me and have thought of things that I had not questioned.

[yorkielady06]

I agree too many flags on sizes of parents (moms and dad), neither are finished champions and to breed a 9 year old bitch
Just because they are YTCA does not mean they are ethical.
And that is too much for a pet PERIOD!! Show bitch from finished parents of course ... Pet ..NO..
Keep looking and demand health testing.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kalina82

TOYBOX'S OUT ON A LIMB DOB: 1-10-07
sire: NATALIE'S OBVIOUS INTENTIONS
dam: TOYBOX'S EXQUISITE JEWEL (RUBY)

Twiggy got her name because when she was 9 weeks old we had to rush her to the vets for a severe case of Low Blood Sugar (LBS). It turned out she was there for 10 days and when she came home needed dextrose every 2 hrs. round the clock for a week, every 4 hrs. the following week and so on till finally her sugar seemed to even off. Since she turned 3 months we have never had another problem with Twiggy of a physical nature. Twiggy is called the BAD GIRL OF TOYBOX YORKIES - all 2 1/2 lbs. of her. she wears shirts that say "I DO BAD THINGS" "BEEN THERE, CHEWED THAT" "DON'T LET THE CUTE THING FOOL YA" AND "I MAY BE SMALL BUT I'M THE BOSS". Twiggy has done modeling for Doggie Couture Lines with her Mom Ruby, as well as be my companion on almost all road trips I take. She plays with all the dogs here in the house but would much rather be in your lap if you walk in the door or sit on the couch.

Unless you are Pauline, then I question why a YTCA breeder would break a code of conduct, letting a tiny go home at 9 weeks of age.

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Unless you are Pauline, then I question why a YTCA breeder would break a code of conduct, letting a tiny go home at 9 weeks of age.

Kalina82 copied and pasted it from Pauline's website.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Kalina82 copied and pasted it from Pauline's website.

Oh! Good.