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New At This - Lilly's Pregnant Lilly is pregnant and I have several questions .... I'm not a breeder but wanted Lilly to have puppies before I had her spade. (wanted her to be a mom just once). She's 3 years old and was bread with a YorkiePoo, also 3 years old. Both dogs healthy. Before pregnacy Lilly was 12lbs and she is now 17lbs, is 5lbs too much weight to be gaining (her due date is 7/21/10 - 63 days from conception)? Does the number of swollining teats indicate the number of puppies? She has 5 very swollen ones. How do I know when she's going into labor? I read it will be approximately 20-30 minutes between puppies and if it's more than an hour, to call the vet (indicating she may be in distress). Question ... how do I know she's in distress or just done having puppies? Is it true they usually go into labor at night? Once the puppies are born, how do I go about getting their AKC papers? Both Lilly and Lou (the male) are registered w/AKC. I guess that's it for now ... but I'm sure I will have many more questions as the time goes nearer! I want to thank you ahead of time for your answers! |
I'm really not trying to be a smart-butt....BUT, how the heck did a Yorkie/Poodle mix (the dad) get registered with the AKC?!?! Your puppies are going to be mutts and therefore will not be eligible to register with the AKC. My little Piper is a mutt and is not registered either...nothing wrong with that! |
i can answer your questions without you getting attacked.....but i need to be able to pm you....go to your user CP and allow pm's. |
Start here Dog Breeding and Canine Reproduction by Debbie Jensen. Dog Breeding and Whelping guide for dog breeders. If she was breed with a yorkiepoo he is not akc reigstered. AKC does not accept mixed breed. They could be registered CKC. |
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Only Liverpool I know of, as I am from that area originally, is in England. But the pups will not be able to be registered with the Kennel Club in England either. I don't mean to jump on OP, but why do owners think that a dog needs to have pups before being spayed? Too many puppes out there from professional breeders. If you know of any breeders in your area, check and see if they will help you through this. Good luck:aimeeyork:aimeeyork:aimeeyork |
Aha - I see that the OP is in Liverpool, New York! not Liverpool, England. Lots of English place names over here :D |
Wow. I can't believe that you are just NOW asking these questions, when she's due very soon:( Please search out a mentor that breeds toy breed dogs who will hopefully help you. In the meantime, read every single thing on this board, it's a wealth of information, not to mention people's real life experiences with whelping and raising tiny puppies. So many things can go wrong with a whelp with these dogs, and not having experience or knowledge on your side could very well have put your girl in jeopardy:cry: Praying that all goes well:hands: |
The AKC does not register mixed breeds they are a purebred registry only but the Continental Kennel Club does but not a clue what they are registering??:rolleyes: Have you bred before? Small breeds? Do you have a mentor? Vet close by ready for a section? All health screens done on the mom? Whelping kit? Whelping box? First aid supplies? |
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I wish you all the best of luck with your pups but I really think you should have asked these questions before you started breeding. |
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I am sorry, but the situation you have put her in to fulfill your own desires is less than ideal. Preparing yourself to breed your dog ETHICALLY and SAFELY is something you need to research and educate yourself on way in advance, not something you pick up on as you go. A bit late to be trying to figure this out now, a little over a week before she is due! :eek: Your best option at this point is to find and experienced breeder to mentor you through her whelp and to be there to assist you, or even your vet. You are going to be hard pressed to learn everything you need to know in such a short amount of time. Questions and answers via internet forum are not enough. |
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My advice is find a mentor and quick. Start obtaining all whelping equipment (expensive). Read everything you can about whelping. The internet is not a place you can obtain the knowledge. Your pups will not be able to be registered with AKC. They are mixed breed dogs. |
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It's kind of like saying, "I'm performing open heart surgery next week, so teach me everything I need to know about being a doctor via website." |
While I agree that research should have been done beforehand, the fact remains that pups are soon on the way. Can somebody with experience please take the time to answer all of her questions so she can do her best to get ready? She may not have the time to get a mentor now. |
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No, swollen teats have nothing to do with the number of pups being carried. Read the link provided above and talk to some breeders and your vet to learn the signs of impending labor. They should be easy to detect if you are vigilantly watching her close to her due date. Panting, nervousness, loss of appetite, reclusiveness, pacing, licking, temp drop are common indicators. You cannot get AKC papers. The dogs are not going to be purebred dogs. There is no way the male is AKC registered. If you are under that misconception, that is very unfortunate, but in the end, the dogs are going to be mixes...not registerable dogs. They go into labor whenever they feel like it, not only at night. It is often when their environment is calm, if they can help it. (Hope that makes sense.) Signs of distress--in other words, the things that typically lead to serious complications for the female and pups. There are literally hundreds. How can you possibly educate someone on that in a week over the internet. You can't. We can do a question and answer session all day long...but it's never going to be enough to ADEQUATELY prepare someone for what lies ahead. The way to BEST get her ready is hope she understands this and gets a mentor as advised. "Not having time to find one" may not cut it. |
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Even if one alerts one to distress signs....you can't explain every situation, as every whelp is different and comes with it's own set of problems. Yes, problems, because smooth sailing text book whelps are not the norm. |
Ten days out from delivery is much too late to begin asking questions. With you being a member here for 3 years, I'm surprised you didn't make use of the resources here long before now. The others are right in that there just isn't time for you to prepare yourself properly. What you must do is prepare a whelping area for your girl and get your supplies ready. The link posted earlier is a good place to start preparing. You really should see a vet and get her x-rayed so you can know how many pups to expect. She is far enough along now to get a good view. Don't delay with this. Also, it's likely your vet will be the closest you will find at this time to a mentor so make that appointment now. If there's anything in your favor, it's that you have a big girl. They typically are stronger and may have a better chance of fewer complications, particularly with pre-eclampsia and eclampsia since her larger size gives her more reserves to call on as the pups deplete her with their pre-natal growth and nursing after birth. There are no guarantees, however, for a problem-free whelp or complications after. Don't let anyone tell you to just be there for your girl and let her handle things. At a minimum, you will need to intervene to tear the sacs, cut the cords, clear the pups airways, dry and stimulate them to get them going. Do not let the Mom cut the cords as she could easily injure the babies. There was a recent thread where someone let the Mom do the cords and she chewed a pup's foot off. Many Moms get too aggressive and these little ones just can't take it. I truly hope your girl has an uneventful delivery and that the pups all thrive. You cannot leave it to chance, however. In the little time you have left do all the research you can, see if you can find an experienced breeder near you to help and see your vet ASAP. |
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:bravo::goodpost: :aimeeyorkYorkieProud:aimeeyork :pIF YOU ARE HAVING A BAD DAY, JUST LOOK IN THE FACE OF YOUR YORKIE AND EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY!!:p |
WOW ... you people are abusive. And you wonder why I didn't ask any questions before this. If you looked at the answers you all gave me, makes me believe all you care about is if I'm going to get papers from the AKC for the puppies. To tell you the truth .... I really dont care whether I get papers for these pups or not. So, you can all relax and retract your claws! FOR ME .... it's NOT about money! You all make it sound like this has not been going on for hundreds of years (animals having babies)! All of a sudden its become rocket science! I'm not minimizing it BUT come on people ... I'm a pretty intelligent person and YES I can pick things up very quickly. None of you even asked whether I have done any research prior to this message. You all just assumed I had not. Well, let me answer that one for you ... I have. Maybe if you all were a bit nicer instead of ripping me apart, you would have got that! There were MAYBE 1 or 2 people on this site that really cared enough to reply to me with something otherthan NEVATIVE comments. I do want to thank those 1 or 2 people -Thank You very much for you help! Have you not learned the very old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, DON'T say anything at all". Maybe you need to learn it! I am VERY discussed with the people on this website and probably won't EVER be on it again. Not that any of you really care! I think that all you people that replied to me with such NEGATIVE comments, maybe should be taken off this site, so people would not be afraid of asking questions. I thought this was supposed to be a site you could go to for answers! Well, that's my 2 cents ... PLEASE don't reply to this message, cause I really dont want to know what your thoughts are! Thank You! |
What I will say is this is a public forum and your request of telling no one to post isn't your right. What advise was given to you was based on fact, whelping is not something you just do. Those that responded to you stated it like it was, no sugar coating. No one was abusive, just telling it like it is. But, I will say is that your allowing your girl to get pregnant without any knowledge is a form of animal abuse. "You" have put your girl's life jeaporady and you alone are responsible. . |
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so very well said!!! |
No, you are right, for you it's not about the money.....it is about your dog being a mother just once so she won't miss out on that amazing experience. You are bringing more mutts into the world when there aren't already enough 'yorki-poos' out there. So, what are you going to do with these precious mutts? Will you give them away? Sell them? If you sell them, how much will you ask? Do you plan on breaking even or making a little cash off of the 'designer' breed? Yea, I am being a smart butt.... Also, if you really did do some research on the subject you would know that you cannot have an AKC mutt and register your mutts with any reputable organization. If you did your research you would know that the number of swollen teets does not equal the number of pups. If you did your research, you would know what labor signs to look for. If you did your research you would know she needs an x-ray so you don't miss any pups. I am not experienced in breeding mutts or pure-breads. I have only helped birth 7 kittens in my life and they came from a stray cat. I know that I will always have my dogs fixed no matter how much I want them to go through the pain of labor and the stress of birth. I'm sorry you weren't hugged an congratulated on your AKC mutts. I am sorry you got your feelings hurt. I am sorry you are not truly prepared to help your dog give birth. Good luck! I hope you have some adorable babies! |
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Hopefully you recommended another dog forum site where they'll sugar coat everything for those who chose to do things their way vs the way with an animal's welfare in mind. :rolleyes: |
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Frankly, I think your post is the only abusive post. |
Wow~ You asked the questions, you got the answers. If you didn't like them, that seems to be more your problem than the persons answering, IMO. And FYI- you were the one who asked about getting AKC papers. It wasn't brought up out of the blue by the responders. |
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In addition if the OP was so concerned about the welfare of the female; Original Post on the 10th and didn't come on again until this afternoon.......Speaks volumes. |
Bah Humbug to this thread. Member prox 3 years done none of the reading on this forum? Did no research (easy enough) to goto www.akc.org and you will find the rules about registering dogs with them. No apologies sent this way... to you. I suspect this post was only to stir the waters. Well you caused a ripple. If you have a pregnant female, and Do Not have a mentor, then talk to your vet now. They are your best source of information at this late date. But if you'd like go ahead and let your female rip off the cords, wash or not the pups, lay on them or not, that is how it is done in the wild. Can you honestly sit by and watch your female rip off a foot with the cord?, let a baby expire in it's sack? You-you were not attacked. You were told in language that was clear and forceful to do the things you need to do to safeguard the health of your bitch and her puppies |
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However, as the original Poster said that wheping is not rocket science, we make it more complex than what it is. If that's the case, no questions needed to be answered. I for one find it very difficult to assist a Backyard Breeder....only to help them in continuing bad breeding practices where there dogs continue to suffer under their enept hands. |
Honestly after reading your questions I can see why it was presumed you werent prepared |
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Agree 100%! To the OP--the question you asked are very elementary ones in regards to the breeding process as a whole. That is what gave the impression that you have not researched. Unfortunately for you, this site is full of people who look out for the best interest of the DOGS first, and your feelings second. You will get a wide variety of answers and opinions when you ask almost any question. You need to either be prepared for answers from all ends of the spectrum, or refrain from asking the question altogether. I find it ironic that you came on here, a week from your girl's whelp date asking very basic questions, yet those who answered are the ones being abusive. :rolleyes: |
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