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06-19-2010, 02:46 PM | #1 |
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| in heat? yesterday i went to pick up maggie (my yorkie) and she peed on the bed she does this sometimes but never as much as she did yesterday, her pee also stained the sheets, which is also something that has never happened before. this morning i noticed that she was panting and cleaning her lady parts, which seem to be a little larger, but im not sure if thats all in my head since i havent been paying too much attention to it before. she doesnt really done too much like this since this morning. could she be in heat? shes 3 and has bred wonderfully twice before with her previous owner. i would like to breed her once just for the experience, but since i am not experienced im not 100% sure of what to expect. just in case she is in heat i bought some blue buffalo wet puppy food and nutri cal for her to snack on. any thoughts as to what to do from here? |
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06-19-2010, 04:07 PM | #2 | |
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My, my your girl is 3 and has already had 2 litters, my, my......have her spayed.
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06-19-2010, 04:46 PM | #3 |
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| Thank you for your concern. Please do not think that this was just a spur of the moment decision or that I haven't consulted with a vet before making the choice to breed her. I will also continue to stay in contact with my vet since I am new at this. I have posted on here since there are many who have bred and I would love to get any feed back on food or tips that have helped others. I would also love to have anyone share any experiences that they have learned from that i can avoid or use. As far as the health of my dog I will that up to the professionals. |
06-19-2010, 05:05 PM | #4 | |
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As you mentioned you have no experience. Breeding if done correctly should only be done with the sole intention of improving the breed. Do so takes years of study. And breeding only the best respresentation of the breed. Please find a mentor, one that is well versed in breeding yorkies. It is an expensive journey. The tests alone are well up into the $500.00 range. Whelping supplies and meds that are needed are another big expense. And of course having deep pockets should an emergency arise. Be prepared to give up a minimum of 12 weeks of your life.
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06-19-2010, 05:15 PM | #5 |
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| Money is no concern. She had a blood test about 3 months ago. Is there any other specific tests I should be aware of? My aunt is a dog breeder, I briefly meantioned to her that I was interested in doing this. I agree it would be wise to keep her close. Thank you do much! |
06-19-2010, 05:25 PM | #6 |
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| Read and study the standard, learn it inside and out. If your girl doesn't fit the standard, she shouldn't be bred. Yes, the tests are plenty. Bile Acid tests for Liver Shunt. Since she is 3, her hips and knees should be OFA'd. Her eyes should be CERF'd. Heart, Kidney's tested. Blood tests only give you an inidication of what is going on with the body. Have her sonogramed to insure her reproductive organs are in good shape. She should have an STD test prior to breeding. Brucellosis test. By the way the stud you use should have the same tests. However, these tests do not reveal whether your dogs are carriers of said diseases, they only tell you if your dog is clear of them. Putting the wrong two dogs together can produce pups with genetic defects. It's just how the genes shake up. So, be prepared to take the responsibility should anything go wrong with these pups. And if you don't plan to keep them all, be prepared to, economic times are hard. Even the best of breeders are keeping their breeding to a minimum or skipping breedings.
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06-19-2010, 05:42 PM | #7 | |
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06-19-2010, 05:50 PM | #8 | |
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I strongly suggest you start attending canine genetic classes, reproduction classes, whelping classes. Studying her pedigree, learning about the dogs within that pedigree. Studying how to raise a healthy well adjusted litter. Since this takes time, and she's in Season now, you don't have the time to accomplish this.
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06-19-2010, 06:13 PM | #9 | |
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06-19-2010, 06:15 PM | #10 |
YT 1000 Club Member | Magerita if you simply want to do this for just experience go to a Reproduction vets office and ask to sit in on a delivery or C section. Or better yet take a visit to your local animal shelter or rescues and see all the dogs in there that are in there because people didn't take the time to get properly educated about breeding and jumped right in, not to mention the cast offs from puppymills and bad breeders, then there are the ones who get brought in because the people that bought them don't want them anymore. Do you really want the experience that much? What if she goes into labor in the middle of the night and something happens that you can't recognize and your Bitch gives you no warning at all? Do you really want the heartache that goes with losing a few pups or an entire litter and also your bitch, because you didn't take the time to do research before hand?
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06-19-2010, 06:38 PM | #12 |
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| First of all, welcome to Yorkie Talk. There is a wealth of info here and some very experienced breeders. You have been posting back and forth with one of the most experienced breeders on this site, so she knows what she's talking about. The title of your thread really highlights your lack of experience. This is such a basic question in breeding that it shouldn't need to be asked if you are setting out to breed your girl. This, and much, much more should be known well before even considering breeding. Yorkshire Terriers are not a breed that you can let Nature take its course with. Intervention, even in textbook pregnancies and births, is necessary and one must be aware of the signs of distress in both the Mom and pups to avoid disaster. I would add that complications occur as often as not. Knowledge and preparation is essential or you could likely lose your girl, the pups or both. There is a current thread in the breeders' forum now where someone let the Mom cut (chew) the cord and she wound up chewing the baby's foot off. Just one of many, many tragedies that could be avoided if the breeder was experienced enough to know what to do. All you need to do is read some of the threads here and you'll see just how wrong things can go. Mardelin was right in saying that you don't have enough time to learn even the basics of what you should know to go ahead with a breeding at this time. And, if you're doing this only for the 'experience', I would tell you that this is an experience you could do without. You must ask yourself if you trust your own knowledge well enough to place your girl's life in your hands.....which is what you would be doing by breeding her. If you think you want to consider breeding, you must get serious about acquiring all the knowledge you can in advance of actually pursuing it. There are many good links posted in many of the threads here and one of the better one's that I have handy is this one. Dog Breeding and Canine Reproduction by Debbie Jensen. Dog Breeding and Whelping guide for dog breeders. Along with the advice Mardelin gave you, I would recommend a couple of books....."The Complete Yorkshire Terrier" by Joan Gordon and also "The Joy of Breeding Your Own Show Dog" by Ann Seranne. Despite its title, it's not only for those aspiring for the show ring. There is some very good information there for any breeder. I strongly urge you to just spay your girl and enjoy her. Unless you are completely dedicated to breeding, it's just not worth it. Along with the knowledge and expense required, be prepared to put your life on hold for months, and that's with all going well. With complications, tragedy and heartbreak may be all you get for your efforts.
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06-19-2010, 06:43 PM | #13 |
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| I haven't. My vet is closed for the weekend so I turned to this site for advice. I haven't even looked for a stud yet all I have done is get puppy food. I'm not going to breed her this round since I have not researched a stud and there a few tests that would like to make sure she gets before going forward. I do realize that breeding my yorkie does put her life at risk but I'm going to do all that I can to make sure that is a very small chance. |
06-19-2010, 06:50 PM | #14 |
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| Breeding an animal "just for the experience" is a horrible, horrible reason! I would really ask you to do a search on this site for all the mothers that were lost by inexperienced breeders as well as their babies. There have been quite a few recently. Need to ask yourself if that would really be worth it.
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06-19-2010, 08:26 PM | #15 |
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| Wow, if you don't know if your bitch is in heat or not, I really don't think breeding is for you.
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