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shodanusmc 03-31-2010 07:42 AM

Parti Prices
 
The pups look great, but I have an honest question. Why are Parti's so expensive? Some of the prices I have seen are just crazy. 3K, 5K, 6K. Do they come from a long line of Champions? Best in Show or something? Maybe they are 10 IQ points higher on the Doggie IQ Chart

kpstoybox 03-31-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3063277)
The pups look great, but I have an honest question. Why are Parti's so expensive? Some of the prices I have seen are just crazy. 3K, 5K, 6K. Do they come from a long line of Champions? Best in Show or something? Maybe they are 10 IQ points higher on the Doggie IQ Chart

How exactly is a rainbow made? How exactly does the sun set? How exactly does a positrack rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does. ;)

shodanusmc 03-31-2010 02:26 PM

I know the answers to your questions, but you never answered mine. That's ok though.

MJJ56 03-31-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 3063871)
How exactly is a rainbow made? How exactly does the sun set? How exactly does a positrack rear end on a Plymouth work? It just does. ;)

WOW - what an answer....... :( I was curious also about the Parti (trying to decide if they would be our next addition) but that just took care my curiosity.... never mind! Maybe it's not the IQ that makes them so costly but the "attitude".

Breezeaway 03-31-2010 04:05 PM

I will answer that, not all parti yorkies are high priced. It is like anything else in this world, one person might want 10,000 for a mustang while another person wants 15,000 for the same exact model. Some people just feel theirs are worth more. My opinion is Do your research and find a reputable trustworthy breeder and one you feel you are comfortable buying from no matter what price you feel you can pay.
As far as KP's answer to Shodan, he added a smart aleck comment (Maybe they are 10 IQ points higher on the Doggie IQ Chart) in his post so he got the same kind of reply.
To the OP your puppy is beautiful!!!!!

shodanusmc 03-31-2010 04:09 PM

That was not a smart aleck remark....when I make one, you will know! I asked a simple question, and dogs do vary on the intelligence scale, by breed. But we will not compare a border Collie to a Bulldog.

I appreciate the other reply as far as pricing. Reputable Breeder is the key, bit for some of the prices, they had better come with a diamond studded Collar and Rolex.

shodanusmc 03-31-2010 04:11 PM

Good to see the parti people stick together. I like that!

Breezeaway 03-31-2010 04:25 PM

And again a post about a parti and someone just has to start something about it.:(

mommadog1 03-31-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3063277)
The pups look great, but I have an honest question. Why are Parti's so expensive? Some of the prices I have seen are just crazy. 3K, 5K, 6K. Do they come from a long line of Champions? Best in Show or something? Maybe they are 10 IQ points higher on the Doggie IQ Chart

Is there really a doggy IQ chart?..............................LMAO..

mommadog1 03-31-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3064037)
That was not a smart aleck remark....when I make one, you will know! I asked a simple question, and dogs do vary on the intelligence scale, by breed. But we will not compare a border Collie to a Bulldog.

I appreciate the other reply as far as pricing. Reputable Breeder is the key, bit for some of the prices, they had better come with a diamond studded Collar and Rolex.

I'm with you on this.

mommadog1 03-31-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3064062)
And again a post about a parti and someone just has to start something about it.:(

I don't get what that means?? I love the parti colors, I didn't at first but now I drool over them. But 3k, well that is just to much money for a pet. I could see if it was a show prospect with champion lines. (and I mean recent champions, including at least 1 parent)..

But I feel this way about all breeders who charge so much for any breed. I know a breeder who charges 1895.00 and UP for cockapoos!!! And yes, she gets it. I don't get it, I don't understand why people spend that much. She does nothing special, no tests etc.. a

and yet the ones doing the tests are not charging that much. People tend to think if it is more expensive then it MUST be better:rolleyes:

Jaxx 04-01-2010 10:39 AM

Parti Yorkies
 
When Parti breeders bought their parti puppies (2 years ago +) that are now their dams and sires, Parti Yorkies were priced more than they are now and were hard to find.
Because most parti Yorkies sold for $4000 to $5000 each then, Parti breeders have spent a lot of money to buy their sires and dams and parti puppies need to sell for more because of the amount of money breeders committed to buying the moms and dads.

BaxtersMommy 04-01-2010 10:58 AM

You can find parti's for less than a thousand if you look, 1500 tops. AND they will be AKC and come from good breeders. In my opinion enough money to spend, unless you just have money growing on trees. lol :p

Cerise 04-01-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaxx (Post 3065126)
When Parti breeders bought their parti puppies (2 years ago +) that are now their dams and sires, Parti Yorkies were priced more than they are now and were hard to find.
Because most parti Yorkies sold for $4000 to $5000 each then, Parti breeders have spent a lot of money to buy their sires and dams and parti puppies need to sell for more because of the amount of money breeders committed to buying the moms and dads.


So are you suggesting that they be breeding selling high just to get their investment back? What about breeding for the betterment of the breed? There are now so many Parti breeders out there that don't do any test and just continue to sell carriers and Parti puppies to anyone who is willing to give the dollar amount they ask for. People who buy them think just because they are AKC it's a great idea to start breeding them. I'm not talking about the reputable ones who have strict contracts and actually do the proper testing. I'm talking about the big wave of greeder/breeders now out there.

BamaFan121s 04-01-2010 11:18 AM

Wow! I saw nothing wrong with the OPs post/question. I took what he said regarding IQ as a joke, nothing more. He's still fairly new to the forum and probably has not had the *priviledge* of seeing all the *discussions* on Partis that have taken place in the past. If so, he'd realize that most of the time, even simple question are treated like "challenges" and instead of getting answers, you just get berated. He asked a legitimate question that LOTS of people have asked before and don't understand.

I do remember being told before though that 1) higher prices are charged because they had to pay higher prices for their breeding stock and 2) because that's what's common and when overall prices go down, so will theirs. Really, those are the only 2 answers I've every actually seen offered.

livingdustmops 04-01-2010 11:21 AM

Here is a 3rd/4th one:

Supply and Demand and

Because we can

I saw the same thing with the Biewers and their costs have come down a great deal as more Biewers were supplied.

I don't know that anyone can point fingers because that is what free enterprise is all about. What you can point fingers at is their breeding programs and what they are or are not doing to better the breed.

Nancy1999 04-01-2010 11:52 AM

Breeders who breed to standard have to spend a lot money on their breeding dogs and those who show have to spend so much more. Going to shows and all the expenses that come with it really ads up, so I can understand why breeders who show, will charge $2,000 for a puppy produced with lots of champs in the background. Show breeder's dogs are not the highest priced dogs; you can pay much more than that in a pet store where dogs have come from puppy mills. So what you pay for a dog. doesn't now really give you a good indication of the quality of the dog or the breeder. If show breeders had to turn a profit, they would have to charge so much more for dogs, but they aren't breeding for profit. Finding the right home is more important than selling dogs, and they are truly interested in protecting and improving the breed.

Whenever I see a breeder selling a dog for over the price that a show breeder charges, I think they MUST be breeding for profit. There's nothing wrong with having a profit, it's just when you are breeding for profit, you are going to make decisions based on money, instead of health. People often call certain colors "rare" in an attempt to make them seem special, and as you know, there will always be those who are attracted to that which is different. There are some Parti breeders who say they are breeding because they love the Parti look, but I think you get a better indication of why they are breeding if you look at the prices they charge. Many people have turned to breeding Parti's because they have complained that in their local communities they can't get over $350.00 for a Yorkie, so if they breed Partis, they can make much more than that, and sell over the internet. The thing to remember about Parti's is that two Parti's can only produce Parti's, they cannot produce a standard yorkie, so in the future, the Parti many be the only yorkie anyone can find, and I would hate that to happen.

alaskayorkie 04-01-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3064067)
Is there really a doggy IQ chart?..............................LMAO..

Yes! I believe it was done in a survey of trainers, but they set up criteria and ranked all, or many, of the breeds. The criteria for the top 10: "Understanding of New Commands in Less than 5 repetitions. Obey First command 95 percent of the time or better)
1. Border Collie
2. Poodle.
3. German Shepherd
4. Golden Retriever
5. Doberman Pinscher
6. Shetland Sheepdog
7. Labrador Retriever
8. Papillon
9. Rottweiler
10. Australian Cattle Dog

Yorkies tied for 27th with Chesapeake Bay Retrievers and Pulis.
INTELLIGENCE OF DOGS - The ranking by breed

QuickSilver 04-01-2010 12:44 PM

And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute. :D

Cerise 04-01-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3065341)
And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute. :D


:lol tearsAnd cute he is! :D

AMD 04-01-2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3065249)
Breeders who breed to standard have to spend a lot money on their breeding dogs and those who show have to spend so much more. Going to shows and all the expenses that come with it really ads up, so I can understand why breeders who show, will charge $2,000 for a puppy produced with lots of champs in the background. Show breeder's dogs are not the highest priced dogs; you can pay much more than that in a pet store where dogs have come from puppy mills. So what you pay for a dog. doesn't now really give you a good indication of the quality of the dog or the breeder. If show breeders had to turn a profit, they would have to charge so much more for dogs, but they aren't breeding for profit. Finding the right home is more important than selling dogs, and they are truly interested in protecting and improving the breed.

Whenever I see a breeder selling a dog for over the price that a show breeder charges, I think they MUST be breeding for profit. There's nothing wrong with having a profit, it's just when you are breeding for profit, you are going to make decisions based on money, instead of health. People often call certain colors "rare" in an attempt to make them seem special, and as you know, there will always be those who are attracted to that which is different. There are some Parti breeders who say they are breeding because they love the Parti look, but I think you get a better indication of why they are breeding if you look at the prices they charge. Many people have turned to breeding Parti's because they have complained that in their local communities they can't get over $350.00 for a Yorkie, so if they breed Partis, they can make much more than that, and sell over the internet. The thing to remember about Parti's is that two Parti's can only produce Parti's, they cannot produce a standard yorkie, so in the future, the Parti many be the only yorkie anyone can find, and I would hate that to happen.

^ :thumbup:

AMD 04-01-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3065341)
And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute. :D

:yelrotflm

BabyBrizzy 04-01-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3065341)
And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute. :D


Aww... Thor and Mike tied! How cute! :yelrotflm

LuvMyPuppE 04-01-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3065341)
And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute. :D

you're hilarious - i was looking at your blog and it's sooo funny.

that pic of Thor is adorable, too. you were lucky to capture that one!

kpstoybox 04-01-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3065249)
Breeders who breed to standard have to spend a lot money on their breeding dogs and those who show have to spend so much more. Going to shows and all the expenses that come with it really ads up, so I can understand why breeders who show, will charge $2,000 for a puppy produced with lots of champs in the background. Show breeder's dogs are not the highest priced dogs; you can pay much more than that in a pet store where dogs have come from puppy mills. So what you pay for a dog. doesn't now really give you a good indication of the quality of the dog or the breeder. If show breeders had to turn a profit, they would have to charge so much more for dogs, but they aren't breeding for profit. Finding the right home is more important than selling dogs, and they are truly interested in protecting and improving the breed.

Whenever I see a breeder selling a dog for over the price that a show breeder charges, I think they MUST be breeding for profit. There's nothing wrong with having a profit, it's just when you are breeding for profit, you are going to make decisions based on money, instead of health. People often call certain colors "rare" in an attempt to make them seem special, and as you know, there will always be those who are attracted to that which is different. There are some Parti breeders who say they are breeding because they love the Parti look, but I think you get a better indication of why they are breeding if you look at the prices they charge. Many people have turned to breeding Parti's because they have complained that in their local communities they can't get over $350.00 for a Yorkie, so if they breed Partis, they can make much more than that, and sell over the internet. The thing to remember about Parti's is that two Parti's can only produce Parti's, they cannot produce a standard yorkie, so in the future, the Parti many be the only yorkie anyone can find, and I would hate that to happen.


You get a good indication on ANY breeder by the quality of thier dogs, the health testing they do, and the contractual conditions thier pups are sold with. Price should reflect all the breeder has put into her pups whether they show or not.

Also...since the "show" breeder has their own lines they breed from, and with the hundreds of thousands of pet quality blue and tan yorkies being born every year for profit...I doubt you have to worry about the parti taking over. :rolleyes:

shodanusmc 04-01-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3065184)
Wow! I saw nothing wrong with the OPs post/question. I took what he said regarding IQ as a joke, nothing more. He's still fairly new to the forum and probably has not had the *priviledge* of seeing all the *discussions* on Partis that have taken place in the past. If so, he'd realize that most of the time, even simple question are treated like "challenges" and instead of getting answers, you just get berated. He asked a legitimate question that LOTS of people have asked before and don't understand.

I do remember being told before though that 1) higher prices are charged because they had to pay higher prices for their breeding stock and 2) because that's what's common and when overall prices go down, so will theirs. Really, those are the only 2 answers I've every actually seen offered.

Thanks Bama, I appreciate your reply, and several others who took the time to explain it. Yes, I am relatively new here, and while I do not have the highest IQ , I felt it was a legit question when I see some of the prices. I can afford to spend as much as I want for a Pet, a car, a house, but I want to know why I am spending that much and what I am getting for the price. Why buy a ZR-1 for 120,000 over an almost as fast Z06 for 70,000. Is .1 sec woth an extra 50,000? To some it is, to me it is not. Thats all. I did not mean to stir up the pot initially, but it was interesting to see how fast a few attached. That's ok though, as I set up a nice defensive position, and the Final Protective Fires are planned and registered!

Breezeaway 04-01-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3065249)
Breeders who breed to standard have to spend a lot money on their breeding dogs and those who show have to spend so much more. Going to shows and all the expenses that come with it really ads up, so I can understand why breeders who show, will charge $2,000 for a puppy produced with lots of champs in the background. Show breeder's dogs are not the highest priced dogs; you can pay much more than that in a pet store where dogs have come from puppy mills. So what you pay for a dog. doesn't now really give you a good indication of the quality of the dog or the breeder. If show breeders had to turn a profit, they would have to charge so much more for dogs, but they aren't breeding for profit. Finding the right home is more important than selling dogs, and they are truly interested in protecting and improving the breed.

Whenever I see a breeder selling a dog for over the price that a show breeder charges, I think they MUST be breeding for profit. There's nothing wrong with having a profit, it's just when you are breeding for profit, you are going to make decisions based on money, instead of health. People often call certain colors "rare" in an attempt to make them seem special, and as you know, there will always be those who are attracted to that which is different. There are some Parti breeders who say they are breeding because they love the Parti look, but I think you get a better indication of why they are breeding if you look at the prices they charge. Many people have turned to breeding Parti's because they have complained that in their local communities they can't get over $350.00 for a Yorkie, so if they breed Partis, they can make much more than that, and sell over the internet. The thing to remember about Parti's is that two Parti's can only produce Parti's, they cannot produce a standard yorkie, so in the future, the Parti many be the only yorkie anyone can find, and I would hate that to happen.

LOL wouldn't that really put a kink in the YTCA.
You never know what will happen years from now.

BabyBrizzy 04-01-2010 01:27 PM

Well Welcome to YT shodanusmc. And you can buy me the car if you want to! *wink wink* :wavey:

shodanusmc 04-01-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alaskayorkie (Post 3065294)
Yes! I believe it was done in a survey of trainers, but they set up criteria and ranked all, or many, of the breeds. The criteria for the top 10: "Understanding of New Commands in Less than 5 repetitions. Obey First command 95 percent of the time or better)
1. Border Collie
2. Poodle.
3. German Shepherd
4. Golden Retriever
5. Doberman Pinscher
6. Shetland Sheepdog
7. Labrador Retriever
8. Papillon
9. Rottweiler
10. Australian Cattle Dog

Yorkies tied for 27th with Chesapeake Bay Retrievers and Pulis.
INTELLIGENCE OF DOGS - The ranking by breed

An the Bulldog is number 77. Wonder where my Cane Corso falls, but he is almost as smart as the Yorkie. Then again, his brain mass is 100 times larger. :D

shodanusmc 04-01-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyBrizzy (Post 3065432)
Well Welcome to YT shodanusmc. And you can buy me the car if you want to! *wink wink* :wavey:

I may as well, the kids still hit me up when they need one! Thanks Brizzy

I think you woluld like the Nissan GT-R. That will be my next vehicle, if I can talk the boss into it.


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