Parti Prices

[livingdustmops]

Here is a 3rd/4th one:

Supply and Demand and

Because we can

I saw the same thing with the Biewers and their costs have come down a great deal as more Biewers were supplied.

I don't know that anyone can point fingers because that is what free enterprise is all about. What you can point fingers at is their breeding programs and what they are or are not doing to better the breed.

[Nancy1999]

Breeders who breed to standard have to spend a lot money on their breeding dogs and those who show have to spend so much more. Going to shows and all the expenses that come with it really ads up, so I can understand why breeders who show, will charge $2,000 for a puppy produced with lots of champs in the background. Show breeder's dogs are not the highest priced dogs; you can pay much more than that in a pet store where dogs have come from puppy mills. So what you pay for a dog. doesn't now really give you a good indication of the quality of the dog or the breeder. If show breeders had to turn a profit, they would have to charge so much more for dogs, but they aren't breeding for profit. Finding the right home is more important than selling dogs, and they are truly interested in protecting and improving the breed.

Whenever I see a breeder selling a dog for over the price that a show breeder charges, I think they MUST be breeding for profit. There's nothing wrong with having a profit, it's just when you are breeding for profit, you are going to make decisions based on money, instead of health. People often call certain colors "rare" in an attempt to make them seem special, and as you know, there will always be those who are attracted to that which is different. There are some Parti breeders who say they are breeding because they love the Parti look, but I think you get a better indication of why they are breeding if you look at the prices they charge. Many people have turned to breeding Parti's because they have complained that in their local communities they can't get over $350.00 for a Yorkie, so if they breed Partis, they can make much more than that, and sell over the internet. The thing to remember about Parti's is that two Parti's can only produce Parti's, they cannot produce a standard yorkie, so in the future, the Parti many be the only yorkie anyone can find, and I would hate that to happen.

[alaskayorkie]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Is there really a doggy IQ chart?..............................LMAO..

Yes! I believe it was done in a survey of trainers, but they set up criteria and ranked all, or many, of the breeds. The criteria for the top 10: "Understanding of New Commands in Less than 5 repetitions. Obey First command 95 percent of the time or better)
1. Border Collie
2. Poodle.
3. German Shepherd
4. Golden Retriever
5. Doberman Pinscher
6. Shetland Sheepdog
7. Labrador Retriever
8. Papillon
9. Rottweiler
10. Australian Cattle Dog

Yorkies tied for 27th with Chesapeake Bay Retrievers and Pulis.
INTELLIGENCE OF DOGS - The ranking by breed

[QuickSilver]

And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute.

And cute he is!

[AMD]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Breeders who breed to standard have to spend a lot money on their breeding dogs and those who show have to spend so much more. Going to shows and all the expenses that come with it really ads up, so I can understand why breeders who show, will charge $2,000 for a puppy produced with lots of champs in the background. Show breeder's dogs are not the highest priced dogs; you can pay much more than that in a pet store where dogs have come from puppy mills. So what you pay for a dog. doesn't now really give you a good indication of the quality of the dog or the breeder. If show breeders had to turn a profit, they would have to charge so much more for dogs, but they aren't breeding for profit. Finding the right home is more important than selling dogs, and they are truly interested in protecting and improving the breed.

Whenever I see a breeder selling a dog for over the price that a show breeder charges, I think they MUST be breeding for profit. There's nothing wrong with having a profit, it's just when you are breeding for profit, you are going to make decisions based on money, instead of health. People often call certain colors "rare" in an attempt to make them seem special, and as you know, there will always be those who are attracted to that which is different. There are some Parti breeders who say they are breeding because they love the Parti look, but I think you get a better indication of why they are breeding if you look at the prices they charge. Many people have turned to breeding Parti's because they have complained that in their local communities they can't get over $350.00 for a Yorkie, so if they breed Partis, they can make much more than that, and sell over the internet. The thing to remember about Parti's is that two Parti's can only produce Parti's, they cannot produce a standard yorkie, so in the future, the Parti many be the only yorkie anyone can find, and I would hate that to happen.

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[AMD]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute.

[BabyBrizzy]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute.

Aww... Thor and Mike tied! How cute!

[LuvMyPuppE]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

And then, several hundreds of breeds down the list... Thor. Let's hear it for 40+ repetitions on every new command!

Good thing he's so cute.

you're hilarious - i was looking at your blog and it's sooo funny.

that pic of Thor is adorable, too. you were lucky to capture that one!

[kpstoybox]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Breeders who breed to standard have to spend a lot money on their breeding dogs and those who show have to spend so much more. Going to shows and all the expenses that come with it really ads up, so I can understand why breeders who show, will charge $2,000 for a puppy produced with lots of champs in the background. Show breeder's dogs are not the highest priced dogs; you can pay much more than that in a pet store where dogs have come from puppy mills. So what you pay for a dog. doesn't now really give you a good indication of the quality of the dog or the breeder. If show breeders had to turn a profit, they would have to charge so much more for dogs, but they aren't breeding for profit. Finding the right home is more important than selling dogs, and they are truly interested in protecting and improving the breed.

Whenever I see a breeder selling a dog for over the price that a show breeder charges, I think they MUST be breeding for profit. There's nothing wrong with having a profit, it's just when you are breeding for profit, you are going to make decisions based on money, instead of health. People often call certain colors "rare" in an attempt to make them seem special, and as you know, there will always be those who are attracted to that which is different. There are some Parti breeders who say they are breeding because they love the Parti look, but I think you get a better indication of why they are breeding if you look at the prices they charge. Many people have turned to breeding Parti's because they have complained that in their local communities they can't get over $350.00 for a Yorkie, so if they breed Partis, they can make much more than that, and sell over the internet. The thing to remember about Parti's is that two Parti's can only produce Parti's, they cannot produce a standard yorkie, so in the future, the Parti many be the only yorkie anyone can find, and I would hate that to happen.

You get a good indication on ANY breeder by the quality of thier dogs, the health testing they do, and the contractual conditions thier pups are sold with. Price should reflect all the breeder has put into her pups whether they show or not.

Also...since the "show" breeder has their own lines they breed from, and with the hundreds of thousands of pet quality blue and tan yorkies being born every year for profit...I doubt you have to worry about the parti taking over.

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Wow! I saw nothing wrong with the OPs post/question. I took what he said regarding IQ as a joke, nothing more. He's still fairly new to the forum and probably has not had the *priviledge* of seeing all the *discussions* on Partis that have taken place in the past. If so, he'd realize that most of the time, even simple question are treated like "challenges" and instead of getting answers, you just get berated. He asked a legitimate question that LOTS of people have asked before and don't understand.

I do remember being told before though that 1) higher prices are charged because they had to pay higher prices for their breeding stock and 2) because that's what's common and when overall prices go down, so will theirs. Really, those are the only 2 answers I've every actually seen offered.

Thanks Bama, I appreciate your reply, and several others who took the time to explain it. Yes, I am relatively new here, and while I do not have the highest IQ , I felt it was a legit question when I see some of the prices. I can afford to spend as much as I want for a Pet, a car, a house, but I want to know why I am spending that much and what I am getting for the price. Why buy a ZR-1 for 120,000 over an almost as fast Z06 for 70,000. Is .1 sec woth an extra 50,000? To some it is, to me it is not. Thats all. I did not mean to stir up the pot initially, but it was interesting to see how fast a few attached. That's ok though, as I set up a nice defensive position, and the Final Protective Fires are planned and registered!

[Breezeaway]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Breeders who breed to standard have to spend a lot money on their breeding dogs and those who show have to spend so much more. Going to shows and all the expenses that come with it really ads up, so I can understand why breeders who show, will charge $2,000 for a puppy produced with lots of champs in the background. Show breeder's dogs are not the highest priced dogs; you can pay much more than that in a pet store where dogs have come from puppy mills. So what you pay for a dog. doesn't now really give you a good indication of the quality of the dog or the breeder. If show breeders had to turn a profit, they would have to charge so much more for dogs, but they aren't breeding for profit. Finding the right home is more important than selling dogs, and they are truly interested in protecting and improving the breed.

Whenever I see a breeder selling a dog for over the price that a show breeder charges, I think they MUST be breeding for profit. There's nothing wrong with having a profit, it's just when you are breeding for profit, you are going to make decisions based on money, instead of health. People often call certain colors "rare" in an attempt to make them seem special, and as you know, there will always be those who are attracted to that which is different. There are some Parti breeders who say they are breeding because they love the Parti look, but I think you get a better indication of why they are breeding if you look at the prices they charge. Many people have turned to breeding Parti's because they have complained that in their local communities they can't get over $350.00 for a Yorkie, so if they breed Partis, they can make much more than that, and sell over the internet. The thing to remember about Parti's is that two Parti's can only produce Parti's, they cannot produce a standard yorkie, so in the future, the Parti many be the only yorkie anyone can find, and I would hate that to happen.

LOL wouldn't that really put a kink in the YTCA.
You never know what will happen years from now.

[BabyBrizzy]

Well Welcome to YT shodanusmc. And you can buy me the car if you want to! *wink wink*

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by alaskayorkie

Yes! I believe it was done in a survey of trainers, but they set up criteria and ranked all, or many, of the breeds. The criteria for the top 10: "Understanding of New Commands in Less than 5 repetitions. Obey First command 95 percent of the time or better)
1. Border Collie
2. Poodle.
3. German Shepherd
4. Golden Retriever
5. Doberman Pinscher
6. Shetland Sheepdog
7. Labrador Retriever
8. Papillon
9. Rottweiler
10. Australian Cattle Dog

Yorkies tied for 27th with Chesapeake Bay Retrievers and Pulis.
INTELLIGENCE OF DOGS - The ranking by breed

An the Bulldog is number 77. Wonder where my Cane Corso falls, but he is almost as smart as the Yorkie. Then again, his brain mass is 100 times larger.

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by BabyBrizzy

Well Welcome to YT shodanusmc. And you can buy me the car if you want to! *wink wink*

I may as well, the kids still hit me up when they need one! Thanks Brizzy

I think you woluld like the Nissan GT-R. That will be my next vehicle, if I can talk the boss into it.