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cj125 04-01-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvMyPuppE (Post 3065991)
all you have to do is a google search and you will see astronomical prices. i don't know about you in particular, but you said we (i assume breeders in general).

i'd pay a pretty penny for a trained pup - i wasn't aware they went through training when sold although i was aware of the testing, food, vet, etc.

also, do all breeders have tails docked and ears cropped on puppies (not personal dogs)? if so, what is the purpose?

Where in your google search did you find the astronomical prices?
And what do you consider an astronomical price to be?
What sites did you see this on - exactly?

I have seen astronomical prices... but not one was from a show breeder. Every astronomical price I saw was on a site owned by a puppy broker or a tiny specialist or a breeder of rare colored Yorkies!

Did you happen to ask them why they charged such astronomical prices? Never mind.... I'm sure they must have said "because they can"! :rolleyes:

Mardelin 04-01-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3066220)
Where in your google search did you find the astronomical prices?
And what do you consider an astronomical price to be?
What sites did you see this on - exactly?

I have seen astronomical prices... but not one was from a show breeder. Every astronomical price I saw was on a site owned by a puppy broker or a tiny specialist or a breeder of rare colored Yorkies!

Did you happen to ask them why they charged such astronomical prices? Never mind.... I'm sure they must have said "because they can"! :rolleyes:

Only you can attest to that.......You were absolutely pleasantly surprised when i sent you to your breeder weren't you?

jencar98 04-01-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3066220)
Where in your google search did you find the astronomical prices?
And what do you consider an astronomical price to be?
What sites did you see this on - exactly?

I have seen astronomical prices... but not one was from a show breeder. Every astronomical price I saw was on a site owned by a puppy broker or a tiny specialist or a breeder of rare colored Yorkies!

Did you happen to ask them why they charged such astronomical prices? Never mind.... I'm sure they must have said "because they can"! :rolleyes:

:thumbup:

LuvMyPuppE 04-01-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3066220)
Where in your google search did you find the astronomical prices?
And what do you consider an astronomical price to be?
What sites did you see this on - exactly?

I have seen astronomical prices... but not one was from a show breeder. Every astronomical price I saw was on a site owned by a puppy broker or a tiny specialist or a breeder of rare colored Yorkies!

Did you happen to ask them why they charged such astronomical prices? Never mind.... I'm sure they must have said "because they can"! :rolleyes:

it's not far fetched at ALL to say that there are yorkies all over the place that are overpriced.

you ask where i found these prices as if it can't be so, but then you go on to say, "every astronomical price i saw..." which means you are aware that it happens.

all i said is you simply have to do a google search to see they are being sold for astronomical prices. i didn't say every dog is overpriced or that every breeder is doing it - i simply said to the poster that mentioned "we" (as in breeders) would be charging astronomical prices if show fees, etc. were factored in - to which i reponded that there ARE breeders doing that and factoring that in - or as you said - doing it because they CAN!

on another note (kinda) i don't feel as though someone purchasing a puppy should be responsible for reimbursing for the showing of another dog. and before it goes there - i didn't say you said that they should - i'm simply stating that i don't think it's right.

QuickSilver 04-01-2010 08:54 PM

LuvMyPuppE, I don't think cj125 was questioning that you've seen high prices - I think she was just saying that if you list specific places, you'll find that it's disreputable breeders.

mommadog1 04-01-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3064871)
You know Audrey, I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is that the OP wanted something more out of her orginal question....and I always go with my gut instincts :)

Donna

hehehehe.. ya think? :D I had the same gut instinct when I saw it:eek:

mommadog1 04-01-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3064888)
Right now, my gut is telling me it's lunch time! :dribble:

OMG lunch? HAHA.. I came in LATE on this thread cus it's 10:00pm right now..teehee:D:D

cj125 04-01-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3066288)
LuvMyPuppE, I don't think cj125 was questioning that you've seen high prices - I think she was just saying that if you list specific places, you'll find that it's disreputable breeders.

Exactly. :thumbup:

shodanusmc 04-01-2010 09:12 PM

Some excellent replies here buy a few excellent breeders. Bottom line is, buy from the best. I want one from someone that would drive me nuts with questions, and ask a ffair price, especially since I now know that they do it for the betterment of the breed, the love of it, and not for the money. It appears to be a tax loss.

With that, I had best hit the rack. Ralph the Rack Monster is calling....besides, I am mentally spent from another thread. What was that one about? Out

mommadog1 04-01-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvMyPuppE (Post 3065912)
i will not dignify the few people who love to continue drama where there shouldn't be any with a response. by the way, i see a trend in every thread with you guys.

continue talking amongst yourselves.

for everyone who is capable of viewing things objectively and remaining civil - thank you.

secondly, i don't know who anyone is trying to kid (me or themself) when acting like the factor of money is ABSURD and never enters the mind of any respectable breeder. is making a profit unethical? and if so, why wouldn't every breeder be reiumbursed for the vet bills/food/expenses ONLY? sure, they get reimbursed for that and that's fine - but there's profit there as well. i'm not saying there's a problem with that, but to deny it's a factor is a joke.

the only drama, is yours! I really think you should take this up on another thread, there are lots of them for this particular subject.

I was enjoying this thread until a sew posts back. Now I just feel your wanting to make trouble.

mommadog1 04-01-2010 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuvMyPuppE (Post 3065991)
all you have to do is a google search and you will see astronomical prices. i don't know about you in particular, but you said we (i assume breeders in general).

i'd pay a pretty penny for a trained pup - i wasn't aware they went through training when sold although i was aware of the testing, food, vet, etc.

also, do all breeders have tails docked and ears cropped on puppies (not personal dogs)? if so, what is the purpose?

Holy bats*** batman.. I do believe we have a trouble maker here.. do a search in YT for that last "question" because it's been done.

LuvMyPuppE 04-01-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3066322)
Some excellent replies here buy a few excellent breeders. Bottom line is, buy from the best. I want one from someone that would drive me nuts with questions, and ask a ffair price, especially since I now know that they do it for the betterment of the breed, the love of it, and not for the money. It appears to be a tax loss.

With that, I had best hit the rack. Ralph the Rack Monster is calling....besides, I am mentally spent from another thread. What was that one about? Out

agreed.

i also wouldn't purchase a pet from a breeder who didn't expect me to drive them nuts with questions.

cj125 04-01-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvMyPuppE (Post 3066273)
it's not far fetched at ALL to say that there are yorkies all over the place that are overpriced.

you ask where i found these prices as if it can't be so, but then you go on to say, "every astronomical price i saw..." which means you are aware that it happens.

all i said is you simply have to do a google search to see they are being sold for astronomical prices. i didn't say every dog is overpriced or that every breeder is doing it - i simply said to the poster that mentioned "we" (as in breeders) would be charging astronomical prices if show fees, etc. were factored in - to which i reponded that there ARE breeders doing that and factoring that in - or as you said - doing it because they CAN!

on another note (kinda) i don't feel as though someone purchasing a puppy should be responsible for reimbursing for the showing of another dog. and before it goes there - i didn't say you said that they should - i'm simply stating that i don't think it's right.

Ok - let me break this down. I'll try to put it into 1st person so that there are no more misunderstandings or generalizations.

The part of the conversation that you're twisting up is the part where Mardelin was telling you that if she was to add up everything that she put into her dogs that her pups would have to be sold for a lot of money.

following me?

You replied with you can google to find ads for dogs for a lot of money so someone is charging a lot for them.

She told you that it wasn't her - she doesn't make any money off of her dogs.

I said look at where you saw those prices. It was on sites that had micro, mini, tiny, teenie weenie, rare, mass produced puppies on it! I never said I couldn't find any places that sold their puppies for astronomical prices. Obviously, if I knew where the prices were at - then I've seen them.

You seem to have a pattern going on here. You keep picking words or phrases to twist and turn so that you can redirect another question to keep this thing going in circles. Which is just a game. Psych 101.

If you really just had questions about the costs involved in breeding and how you think it's passed down to the consumer - then your questions have been answered.

I think everyone has been very polite and extremely patient with your questions. If you have a sincere quest for knowledge - then ask on... but if you just want to spar - then move on.

In order to learn - you first have to listen.


LuvMyPuppE 04-01-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3066353)
Holy bats*** batman.. I do believe we have a trouble maker here.. do a search in YT for that last "question" because it's been done.

no, but thanks anyway. the question was asked in this thread and sufficiently answered in this thread.

btw, thanks for the responses about the docking/clipping.

i don't think it's an absurd question because it varies by breed. when you adopt a pet there is a clause in the contract stating this can not be done.

otherwise, it is often done depending on the breed. i was curious as to the reasoning/requirements of this breed.

it was a simple question with a simple answer. we've moved on. at least i have.

QuickSilver 04-01-2010 09:41 PM

You know what this board needs right now? A frank, open discussion on the pros and cons of tail docking.


Come on! Everything has been so quiet around here lately. Let's some blood pumping. ;)


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