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latoyajackson 12-06-2009 08:34 AM
okay yeah because he has none

latoyajackson 12-06-2009 08:35 AM
he's okay sleeping...alittle more alert today

latoyajackson 12-06-2009 08:38 AM
cute..baby crib...

Mardelin 12-06-2009 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2905779)
He seems to get better each day, he is still sleeping alot but I don't let him out my sight.
You're a good mommie......I think you're gonna pull him through. Sleeping a lot is good for right now.

cj125 12-06-2009 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2905785)
The breeder had already given him shots. The vet said you usually don't give shots until 7 weeks. The breeder says he will make 8 weeks this week. I still don't know..he is little though 1 pound 3 oz vet says.

what food do you all suggest after he is eating better. she had him on puppy chow and reccomended Royal canine 33?? however she sent me home with eukanuba, go figure.
Gez, I hate to give you advice on this one. We had so much trouble with Mia that we literally tried anything and everything - but she did have teeth.

Royal Canine is fine - we did use that (along with a dozen others) but we had problems with Mia's poop staying firm so after a very long trial and error - we have ours on Science Diet - which I wouldn't suggest unless you're having problems with him later on.

I'd just make sure whatever you give him is for puppies & small dog bites.

I hope someone else will come on and give you some better suggestions.

Sorry...

Mardelin 12-06-2009 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2905785)
The breeder had already given him shots. The vet said you usually don't give shots until 7 weeks. The breeder says he will make 8 weeks this week. I still don't know..he is little though 1 pound 3 oz vet says.

what food do you all suggest after he is eating better. she had him on puppy chow and reccomended Royal canine 33?? however she sent me home with eukanuba, go figure.
Actually shots should be given until 8 weeks....prior to this time, it surpresses mother's immunities. 8 weeks 12 wees and 16 weeks

He's a pretty lil guy. I'm so sorry you're going through this.

carmen in nj 12-06-2009 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2905785)
The breeder had already given him shots. The vet said you usually don't give shots until 7 weeks. The breeder says he will make 8 weeks this week. I still don't know..he is little though 1 pound 3 oz vet says.

what food do you all suggest after he is eating better. she had him on puppy chow and reccomended Royal canine 33?? however she sent me home with eukanuba, go figure.
at 8 weeks she STILL IN THE WRONG, that baby still belongs with his mother, I still think she is not a good breeder.. Glad Winston is doing better, just keep an eye on him, like you been doing and follow must of the recomendations you got from the great people here.. I personally use Solid gold dog food, when Prada was a puppy I used..Hundchen Flocken Puppy by solid gold, I use it with my litters and send my puppies home with it. My adults eat solid gold wee bits..
hugs,
Carmen in nj

Mardelin 12-06-2009 08:47 AM
I start my pups on Royal Canin weaning formula....graduate to Puppy 33. But, if you saw the concocation I put together......Mmmmmm, you'd think I was nuts. But, my pups thrive on it.

chachi 12-06-2009 08:49 AM
MY Chachi still didnt have his teeth at 6 1/2 weeks so I dont think that is always a good indicator of age. He looks 8 weeks old to me

latoyajackson 12-06-2009 08:50 AM
thanks..i literally feel like i did when i brought my daughters home as newborns.. ;) my girls are a little upset that they cant interact with him like they want to, they didn't understand at first that he was sick, they were expecting him to be doing more considering we all thought he was older than he really is

Ladymom 12-06-2009 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2905785)
The breeder had already given him shots. The vet said you usually don't give shots until 7 weeks. The breeder says he will make 8 weeks this week. I still don't know..he is little though 1 pound 3 oz vet says.

what food do you all suggest after he is eating better. she had him on puppy chow and reccomended Royal canine 33?? however she sent me home with eukanuba, go figure.

Actually, vaccinations shouldn't be started until about nine weeks. Up until then, puppies still have antibodies from nursing which block the vaccines. That vaccination will have to be repeated when he is older.

In one study of a cross section of different puppies the age at which they were able to respond to a vaccine and develop protection covered a wide period of time. At six weeks of age, 25% of the puppies could be immunized. At 9 weeks of age, 40% of the puppies were able to respond to the vaccine. The number increased to 60% by 16 weeks, and by 18 weeks of age, 95% of the puppies could be immunized.


Parvovirus: Serious Diarrhea in Puppies & Dogs

W Jean Dodds Vaccine Protocol VACCINATION PROTOCOLS

Mardelin 12-06-2009 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2905808)
thanks..i literally feel like i did when i brought my daughters home as newborns.. ;) my girls are a little upset that they cant interact with him like they want to, they didn't understand at first that he was sick, they were expecting him to be doing more considering we all thought he was older than he really is
Well the time will pass before you know it. Even at 8 weeks of age, he would have been much to young to be played with. At 12 weeks they still require a lot of rest.....

capt_noonie 12-06-2009 02:07 PM
Glad to read today Winston is doing better! After he gets good and strong, please report this breeder! People like this must be stopped!

JeanieK 12-06-2009 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2905802)
I start my pups on Royal Canin weaning formula....graduate to Puppy 33. But, if you saw the concocation I put together......Mmmmmm, you'd think I was nuts. But, my pups thrive on it.
:thumbup:
I start with the RC baby dog formula #30 then go to #33 at 10 weeks and that is what I send them home with.

JeanieK 12-06-2009 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2905813)
Actually, vaccinations shouldn't be started until about nine weeks. Up until then, puppies still have antibodies from nursing which block the vaccines. That vaccination will have to be repeated when he is older.

In one study of a cross section of different puppies the age at which they were able to respond to a vaccine and develop protection covered a wide period of time. At six weeks of age, 25% of the puppies could be immunized. At 9 weeks of age, 40% of the puppies were able to respond to the vaccine. The number increased to 60% by 16 weeks, and by 18 weeks of age, 95% of the puppies could be immunized.


Parvovirus: Serious Diarrhea in Puppies & Dogs

W Jean Dodds Vaccine Protocol VACCINATION PROTOCOLS
I don't start mine til 9 weeks either.

JeanieK 12-06-2009 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2905808)
thanks..i literally feel like i did when i brought my daughters home as newborns.. ;) my girls are a little upset that they cant interact with him like they want to, they didn't understand at first that he was sick, they were expecting him to be doing more considering we all thought he was older than he really is
I allow my grandchildren to hold the young ones on their laps if they just sit quietly, on the floor, and let them sleep.

latoyajackson 12-07-2009 06:21 PM
Bye for now... :(
 
Had to return puppy today. My girls are devastated.. He is still not eating food and poo is just like water.. so the breeder agreeded to take him and he will remain there for a couple weeks until he is better. thanks to all of you and I will keep you updated

capt_noonie 12-07-2009 06:42 PM
sorry he did not get better. At least the breeder took him back. I remembered you saying they would not return your calls. Hope he can make a full recovery.

Ladymom 12-07-2009 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2907441)
Had to return puppy today. My girls are devastated.. He is still not eating food and poo is just like water.. so the breeder agreeded to take him and he will remain there for a couple weeks until he is better. thanks to all of you and I will keep you updated
I know that it must have been very hard for you to return him, but it was a very wise decision. I hope you got your money back plus were reimbursed for your vet bills as you are entitled to under Florida law.

Please, please report this breeder so she doesn't produce any more sick puppies and cause another family this heartbreak.

When you are ready, I'm sure you will find a healthy Yorkie puppy to add to your family.

jeanief 12-07-2009 10:18 PM
I'm glad you brought him back and hopefully the breeder knows what she is doing. Puppies that small have no reserve if they don't eat. 1 day of not eating and a pup that size is in big trouble! You have to syringe feed them every 4 hrs and stuff them full ( about 10- 18 cc's ) each feeding until you can feel a round belly. It is a full time job just keeping them alive if they crash hard. If you take him back, I would wait until he is closer to 1.10lb - 2 lbs and 12 wks. She should have NEVER let a puppy go that small no matter how old he is IMO.

AbbysMom08 12-07-2009 10:56 PM
So sorry you had to go through this.
I hope this little one gets better.

cj125 12-08-2009 10:28 AM
Aww I'm sorry to hear that he wasn't improving. I'm sure your girls were upset. It's hard when you've had your heart set on getting a puppy and then this happens. That's why we try to warn people about getting these tinies. Many times they are not tinies - just too young. And if they are tiny - they still need to be treated as though they are too young. If for some reason you don't get him back, please look for a more responsible breeder and a puppy that is at least 12 weeks old.

Best Wishes!

latoyajackson 12-08-2009 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 2908190)
Aww I'm sorry to hear that he wasn't improving. I'm sure your girls were upset. It's hard when you've had your heart set on getting a puppy and then this happens. That's why we try to warn people about getting these tinies. Many times they are not tinies - just too young. And if they are tiny - they still need to be treated as though they are too young. If for some reason you don't get him back, please look for a more responsible breeder and a puppy that is at least 12 weeks old.

Best Wishes!

I wasn't looking for a tiny puppy by all means.... I don't see how people can deal with 2 and 3 pounders full grown. They require alot of work expecially if they leave mom at 4 weeks.

Leesha 12-09-2009 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by latoyajackson (Post 2908197)
I wasn't looking for a tiny puppy by all means.... I don't see how people can deal with 2 and 3 pounders full grown. They require alot of work expecially if they leave mom at 4 weeks.
SO sorry for your puppy. In smaller dogs sizes I have 3 pound dogs and they are all the same! My babies jump off the couch & play rough and do all the things that other dogs do. I also have bigger doggies as well and love them all. My favs are my smaller babies as they are super cute.


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