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jencar98 02-09-2010 06:02 AM
IDK either of the two and am finding it hard to know what to believe anymore.

One thing, I've yet to see Betty (Moon Valley) address is, whether or not she is indeed a commercial kennel. Do you have a USDA license and the number of dogs listed in a another post? Do you deny the USDA inspection report?

To me, it doesn't matter how clean and well run a commercial kennel is, it's STILL A COMMERCIAL KENNEL. The dogs are bred only for profit and it's sickening to think of the poor innocent dogs and their horrid lives.

red98vett 02-09-2010 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2995250)
This thread and the subjects are beginning to remind me of a Jerry Springer show:eek:

Perhaps it's time for admin to close this thread and ban some IP's.
NO KIDDING ! I saw alot of people coming out of the shadows

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Originally Posted by NJames1953 (Post 2995130)
I originally posted not to defend a breeder but to call one on a lie. I bought a Yorkie from Moon Valley Kennels at a flea market, when she claims she doesn't sell at them. True she was sick and has a broken tail but I love her dearly. I usually have better things to do than post on these sites
Thank you

People are BUYING IN FLEA MARKETS ? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEESE don't do that !

you're setting yourself up for heartbreak and that whole practice needs to be outlawed.

I truly hope anyone who did this has healthy puppies but please don't brag that a puppy was 'bought' at a flea market - that's terrible for any dog to be sold like that. They have no vet care and I don't care who says they do - they don't. Every single person I know that made the mistake of going to a flea market ended up with very sick dogs - ESPECIALLY dogs with PARVO !

Please never ever buy at a Flea market ok ?

JennyLeroux 02-09-2010 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NJames1953 (Post 2995298)
Like I said Betty was at the flea market and Ciara was not microchipped. I provided her with dates surely she can look it up from them. I am done but I will gladly e-mail anyone a scanned copy of her papers. I cannot tell you anything about where she lives or anything about her kennels because I have never been there I met Betty and Rachel at the flea market.
If this is the case then Yes, I would like to know. My email is JennyLeroux@gmail.com. Please send me the papers.

JennyLeroux 02-09-2010 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2995305)
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To me, it doesn't matter how clean and well run a commercial kennel is, it's STILL A COMMERCIAL KENNEL. The dogs are bred only for profit and it's sickening to think of the poor innocent dogs and their horrid lives.
I absolutly agree with you on this statement.

bchgirl 02-09-2010 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by urbnalbino (Post 2993797)
Who is Cindy?? Breeder's name is Betty, my name is Rachel. We do NOT breed Biewers - I have one puppy from a fellow YT'r - her link is on our website if you want to see HER puppy for sale. The puppy I got from her is MY pet, NOT Betty's. She isn't going to be used for breeding anyway.

We are NOT USDA licensed as you say. Where did you see or hear about that? We refuse to sell in fleamarkets or to petstores so there would be no need for that. We are not a commercial breeder. There recently was a state law passed requiring breeders to have state inspections, and when we called to see about having it done, the inspector's office told us they didn't even have the funds to hire additional inspectors yet.

We are an open book - feel free to ask US any questions for an honest answer.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...oy-wanted.html

ladyjane 02-09-2010 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by urbnalbino (Post 2993797)
Who is Cindy?? Breeder's name is Betty, my name is Rachel. We do NOT breed Biewers - I have one puppy from a fellow YT'r - her link is on our website if you want to see HER puppy for sale. The puppy I got from her is MY pet, NOT Betty's. She isn't going to be used for breeding anyway.

We are NOT USDA licensed as you say. Where did you see or hear about that? We refuse to sell in fleamarkets or to petstores so there would be no need for that. We are not a commercial breeder. There recently was a state law passed requiring breeders to have state inspections, and when we called to see about having it done, the inspector's office told us they didn't even have the funds to hire additional inspectors yet.

We are an open book - feel free to ask US any questions for an honest answer.
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2995379)

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ladyjane 02-09-2010 07:41 AM
And, I hate the Jerry Springer show...here I am laughing at this nonsense on YT.

RoscoesMommy42 02-09-2010 07:47 AM
I don't really like to get into this stuff, but I had contacted Grayson's Kennels a few months ago because I was interested in a puppy on their website. I emailed for more information about the puppy and pictures of the parents since they were not on the website. I got an extremely rude email back that said he would NOT take the time to send pictures of the parents and that I must only be interested in the look of the dog and even if he did send pictures, how would I know that was truly the parents. I was completely flabbergasted! (Not sure if that is spelled right :rolleyes:) We had a few more not-so-nice emails back and forth, but I was just shocked that I would be seen as a horrible person because I wanted to see pictures of the parents. Anyway, I am not saying that this is a horrible place, because I don't know, I just thought it very strange you would talk to someone like that.

bchgirl 02-09-2010 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2995305)
IDK either of the two and am finding it hard to know what to believe anymore.

One thing, I've yet to see Betty (Moon Valley) address is, whether or not she is indeed a commercial kennel. Do you have a USDA license and the number of dogs listed in a another post? Do you deny the USDA inspection report?

To me, it doesn't matter how clean and well run a commercial kennel is, it's STILL A COMMERCIAL KENNEL. The dogs are bred only for profit and it's sickening to think of the poor innocent dogs and their horrid lives.
While she may or may not have a usda license the state of Tennessee defines a commerical breeder as one who owns 20 unaltered females for the purpose of breeding and those breeders are licensed through the state.

Tennessee Commercial Breeder Act

To be quite frank...I don't need a definition of commercial breeder. 56 dogs speaks volumes in itself.

livingdustmops 02-09-2010 08:51 AM
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I am totally opposed to anyone mass breeding dogs and especially with Yorkies living in a kennel situation. They are companion dogs and I don't care how clean or neat a kennel is, it is not the right thing for a Yorkie.

When I first posted on this thread I followed the link to Moon Valley Kennels and on this person's website was the AKC Inspection Report because as she says "they have nothing to hide". I just went to the website again and it has been removed but I had saved it and have attached the report.

I am also totally against donating puppies to any cause. Who knows what kind of people win these bids...they could be the greatest or not so great but reputable breeders are always very concerned what home their dogs go into...this is also posted on their website.

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We recently modified our business name from Moon Valley Kennel, to Moon Valley Yorkies to better represent us. We want everyone to know that we ONLY breed, raise and love Yorkshire Terriers! We do have a full service kennel, and we do offer boarding services to those who are interested. Click on our "About Us" link at the top to learn more!

Baptist Nautical Mile
In 2007, Moon Valley donated the sale of one Yorkie puppy, in which the proceeds (as well as other donated items and services) went to support the following organizations: Mission of Hope; Children's Health and Wellness Grants; Community Health Partnerships; Emerald Youth Foundation; and Senior Citizens Home Assistance Services.
"Andy," the lucky beautiful pup, went to live with Buddy and Ragan B. of Knoxville.
Article by Knox News Sentinel

Bianca 02-09-2010 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by urbnalbino (Post 2993797)
Who is Cindy?? Breeder's name is Betty, my name is Rachel. We do NOT breed Biewers - I have one puppy from a fellow YT'r - her link is on our website if you want to see HER puppy for sale. The puppy I got from her is MY pet, NOT Betty's. She isn't going to be used for breeding anyway.

We are NOT USDA licensed as you say. Where did you see or hear about that? We refuse to sell in fleamarkets or to petstores so there would be no need for that. We are not a commercial breeder. There recently was a state law passed requiring breeders to have state inspections, and when we called to see about having it done, the inspector's office told us they didn't even have the funds to hire additional inspectors yet.

We are an open book - feel free to ask US any questions for an honest answer.
Well your name is not Rachel, so your a liar! So now that you lied once I don't believe a thing you say anymore.
Have A Great Day :thumbdown

bchgirl 02-09-2010 09:02 AM
Ah but cached lives forever.

AKC Compliance Report

livingdustmops 02-09-2010 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JennyLeroux (Post 2995316)
I absolutly agree with you on this statement.
I am totally confused...first you say you have been to the kennels and then you agree with Jen on commercial breeders. When someone has the number of dogs they have and they live in a kennel then they are commercial breeders.

:confused:

livingdustmops 02-09-2010 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2995503)
Ah but cached lives forever.

AKC Compliance Report
LMAO but you have to PM me your secret!!!!:D

livingdustmops 02-09-2010 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bianca (Post 2995491)
Well your name is not Rachel, so your a liar! So now that you lied once I don't believe a thing you say anymore.
Have A Great Day :thumbdown
I believe she is Betty (Elizabeth's) daughter.


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