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livingdustmops 02-07-2010 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SDRichards (Post 2993507)
No animals dying at this kennel! This is a wonderful place and my child who has a disability has learned to better communicate with the world through yorkies and Betty's love for those dogs! i am a nurse i am super picky and she is a wonderful person! It is really a shame that someone who is obviuosly not dealing with a full deck can set out and try to destroy an very nice person! Thats not how i would treat anyone!
Interesting that you say I don't have a full deck..when this breeder has 56 adult dogs and 24 puppies via the AKC inspection sheet (Dec 09) posted on her site..this does not include the biewers since AKC does not recognize them...THAT IS 80 DOGS! Hello!

ladyjane 02-07-2010 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SDRichards (Post 2993507)
No animals dying at this kennel! This is a wonderful place and my child who has a disability has learned to better communicate with the world through yorkies and Betty's love for those dogs! i am a nurse i am super picky and she is a wonderful person! It is really a shame that someone who is obviuosly not dealing with a full deck can set out and try to destroy an very nice person! Thats not how i would treat anyone!
Huh? Who is not playing with a full deck? I am confused by all of this, but then, I am not playing with a full deck. :eek:

jencar98 02-07-2010 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SDRichards (Post 2993507)
No animals dying at this kennel! This is a wonderful place and my child who has a disability has learned to better communicate with the world through yorkies and Betty's love for those dogs! i am a nurse i am super picky and she is a wonderful person! It is really a shame that someone who is obviuosly not dealing with a full deck can set out and try to destroy an very nice person! Thats not how i would treat anyone!
I'm happy your child has benefited from connecting with yorkies. I don't know you, but have posted with and known Cindy through her posts for some time now. I've never known her to intentionally try to destroy anyone, only to post what are presented to her as facts (an AKC inspection report is pretty much an irrefutable document).

Anyone that owns 56 adult dogs, even if you're not breeding them all, and 24 puppies presumably to sell, would be considered a small scale commercial breeder. She has a USDA license, generally only commercial breeders have those. If you're not aware of what commercial breeders are about, you might want to research the subject. Especially before you join a forum and start being critical of respected members posting facts, and defending a breeder you may not be aware of the ethics, in her chosen profession.

I've no doubt this probably is a squabble between breeders. What really sickens me, are the yorkies that suffer because of them.:(

urbnalbino 02-08-2010 05:31 AM
Who is Cindy?? Breeder's name is Betty, my name is Rachel. We do NOT breed Biewers - I have one puppy from a fellow YT'r - her link is on our website if you want to see HER puppy for sale. The puppy I got from her is MY pet, NOT Betty's. She isn't going to be used for breeding anyway.

We are NOT USDA licensed as you say. Where did you see or hear about that? We refuse to sell in fleamarkets or to petstores so there would be no need for that. We are not a commercial breeder. There recently was a state law passed requiring breeders to have state inspections, and when we called to see about having it done, the inspector's office told us they didn't even have the funds to hire additional inspectors yet.

We are an open book - feel free to ask US any questions for an honest answer.

SDRichards 02-08-2010 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2993609)
Interesting that you say I don't have a full deck..when this breeder has 56 adult dogs and 24 puppies via the AKC inspection sheet (Dec 09) posted on her site..this does not include the biewers since AKC does not recognize them...THAT IS 80 DOGS! Hello!

I think you misundeerstood me! I was talking about the indvidual from a nearby kennel who has set out to try to discredit Betty So sorry you misunderstood me! i dont even know you and I am definnately am not the type of person to pass judgement ,just to defend a very kind person who is being wrongly accused by a person setting up multiple accounts on Yorkie talk and going back and forth posting comments to himself to pretend to be different people.. What is up with that?

SDRichards 02-08-2010 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2993632)
I'm happy your child has benefited from connecting with yorkies. I don't know you, but have posted with and known Cindy through her posts for some time now. I've never known her to intentionally try to destroy anyone, only to post what are presented to her as facts (an AKC inspection report is pretty much an irrefutable document).

Anyone that owns 56 adult dogs, even if you're not breeding them all, and 24 puppies presumably to sell, would be considered a small scale commercial breeder. She has a USDA license, generally only commercial breeders have those. If you're not aware of what commercial breeders are about, you might want to research the subject. Especially before you join a forum and start being critical of respected members posting facts, and defending a breeder you may not be aware of the ethics, in her chosen profession.

I've no doubt this probably is a squabble between breeders. What really sickens me, are the yorkies that suffer because of them.:(
So sorry this was just to try and clarify that an individual was posting bad things about betty.. I dont know Cindy and have no ill will towards her,but of course any Yorkie owner who reads scary posts like those posted, would want to say something in response. that is only human, because i am sure this person loves Yorkies as much as I do. Just want to rewassure everyone that this is a reputable person!!! Who loves Yorkies too! So sad someone chose to use this wonderful forum to try and push their own agenda( I understand they were friends for a long time)

SDRichards 02-08-2010 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2993609)
Interesting that you say I don't have a full deck..when this breeder has 56 adult dogs and 24 puppies via the AKC inspection sheet (Dec 09) posted on her site..this does not include the biewers since AKC does not recognize them...THAT IS 80 DOGS! Hello!

Oh Cindy so sorry you misunderstood... I was refering to the individual who has set up multiple accounts on Yorkie talk to make it appear as though they were talking about Moon vALLEY back and forth, when all the time it was the same person trying to discredit Betty. I dont even know you, but I can tell from your posts that you love Yorkies just as I do and want only the best for them. They are my babies!!! I am new to this and obviously didnt realize how what I typed to be taken. I wanted you to know that something wasnt right and there was another side to those horrible posts.

NJames1953 02-08-2010 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by urbnalbino (Post 2993797)
Who is Cindy?? Breeder's name is Betty, my name is Rachel. We do NOT breed Biewers - I have one puppy from a fellow YT'r - her link is on our website if you want to see HER puppy for sale. The puppy I got from her is MY pet, NOT Betty's. She isn't going to be used for breeding anyway.

We are NOT USDA licensed as you say. Where did you see or hear about that? We refuse to sell in fleamarkets or to petstores so there would be no need for that. We are not a commercial breeder. There recently was a state law passed requiring breeders to have state inspections, and when we called to see about having it done, the inspector's office told us they didn't even have the funds to hire additional inspectors yet.

We are an open book - feel free to ask US any questions for an honest answer.
Ok you say Betty never sells at flea markets. I am not getting into the fight between you 2 but, I bought my Yorkie at the flea market at exit 407 Gatlinburg, Tn
her mom is Burgundy Lulu her Dad is Lancelot. Did she not come from your kennel? that is on my papers

PhyllisP 02-08-2010 08:45 PM
5 Star Ratings
 
I have been to Graysons Kennels and I know first hand what a wonderful facility it is. I have 2 female yorkies that came from Steve's kennel and would not take anything for them. He has a wonderful set up for his babies ( and they are his Babies). I have never seen a cleaner place for any dog to live in, in all my life. Most kennels, or so called kennels are nothing but glorified puppy mills, and all you will see is what the breeder wants you to see. In the case of Graysons Kennels, this is not so. I would highley reccomend anyone wanting a beautiful Yorkie to seek out Steve and choose the one of your dreams. Enter his home and see first hand what a wondeerful experience adopting a yorkie can be.

Thanks Steve
P.S. AngelGrace and Minnie send puppy kisses :kiss2:

Breeze 02-08-2010 09:39 PM
What a strange thread, all the newbies coming out from nowhere. :confused: Lots of behind the scene action somewhere.

xxmxaxrxyxx 02-08-2010 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 2995081)
What a strange thread, all the newbies coming out from nowhere. :confused: Lots of behind the scene action somewhere.
i agree!

PhyllisP 02-08-2010 09:46 PM
Sorry Breeze, nothing strange going on here and certainly nothing going on behind the scene either. I was just saying what a wonderful place Graysons Kennels is.:animal36

ellabee 02-08-2010 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 2995081)
What a strange thread, all the newbies coming out from nowhere. :confused: Lots of behind the scene action somewhere.
omigosh that made me laugh out loud!! right as I read your comment I was thinking the exact same thing!!!! :)

Breeze 02-08-2010 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiedame (Post 2995098)
Hay PhyllisP
On the phone with Steven, He sends puppy kisses back.:aimeeyork:hearts-xx And Thank You for the comments:animal-pa He is getting ready to take one of his baby girls to an AKC Show:DI have three of his babies and yes his kennels is spotless.He is very prowd of his Yorkies and his kennel, as he should be:aimeeyork. Who is the baby on your tag? She is beautiful.
No behind the scene action, this post kind of proves it. Hmmm :rolleyes:

PhyllisP 02-08-2010 10:15 PM
:angel: That is my AngelGrace, and thank you, I too think she is beautiful. Steve should be very proud of her, I know I am.


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