Originally Posted by SDRichards (Post 2993507)

No animals dying at this kennel! This is a wonderful place and my child who has a disability has learned to better communicate with the world through yorkies and Betty's love for those dogs! i am a nurse i am super picky and she is a wonderful person! It is really a shame that someone who is obviuosly not dealing with a full deck can set out and try to destroy an very nice person! Thats not how i would treat anyone!

Originally Posted by SDRichards (Post 2993507)

No animals dying at this kennel! This is a wonderful place and my child who has a disability has learned to better communicate with the world through yorkies and Betty's love for those dogs! i am a nurse i am super picky and she is a wonderful person! It is really a shame that someone who is obviuosly not dealing with a full deck can set out and try to destroy an very nice person! Thats not how i would treat anyone!

Originally Posted by SDRichards (Post 2993507)

No animals dying at this kennel! This is a wonderful place and my child who has a disability has learned to better communicate with the world through yorkies and Betty's love for those dogs! i am a nurse i am super picky and she is a wonderful person! It is really a shame that someone who is obviuosly not dealing with a full deck can set out and try to destroy an very nice person! Thats not how i would treat anyone!

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2993609)

Interesting that you say I don't have a full deck..when this breeder has 56 adult dogs and 24 puppies via the AKC inspection sheet (Dec 09) posted on her site..this does not include the biewers since AKC does not recognize them...THAT IS 80 DOGS! Hello!

Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2993632)

I'm happy your child has benefited from connecting with yorkies. I don't know you, but have posted with and known Cindy through her posts for some time now. I've never known her to intentionally try to destroy anyone, only to post what are presented to her as facts (an AKC inspection report is pretty much an irrefutable document).

Anyone that owns 56 adult dogs, even if you're not breeding them all, and 24 puppies presumably to sell, would be considered a small scale commercial breeder. She has a USDA license, generally only commercial breeders have those. If you're not aware of what commercial breeders are about, you might want to research the subject. Especially before you join a forum and start being critical of respected members posting facts, and defending a breeder you may not be aware of the ethics, in her chosen profession.

I've no doubt this probably is a squabble between breeders. What really sickens me, are the yorkies that suffer because of them.:(

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2993609)

Interesting that you say I don't have a full deck..when this breeder has 56 adult dogs and 24 puppies via the AKC inspection sheet (Dec 09) posted on her site..this does not include the biewers since AKC does not recognize them...THAT IS 80 DOGS! Hello!

Originally Posted by urbnalbino (Post 2993797)

Who is Cindy?? Breeder's name is Betty, my name is Rachel. We do NOT breed Biewers - I have one puppy from a fellow YT'r - her link is on our website if you want to see HER puppy for sale. The puppy I got from her is MY pet, NOT Betty's. She isn't going to be used for breeding anyway.

We are NOT USDA licensed as you say. Where did you see or hear about that? We refuse to sell in fleamarkets or to petstores so there would be no need for that. We are not a commercial breeder. There recently was a state law passed requiring breeders to have state inspections, and when we called to see about having it done, the inspector's office told us they didn't even have the funds to hire additional inspectors yet.

We are an open book - feel free to ask US any questions for an honest answer.

Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 2995081)

What a strange thread, all the newbies coming out from nowhere. :confused: Lots of behind the scene action somewhere.

Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 2995081)

What a strange thread, all the newbies coming out from nowhere. :confused: Lots of behind the scene action somewhere.

Originally Posted by yorkiedame (Post 2995098)

Hay PhyllisP
On the phone with Steven, He sends puppy kisses back.:aimeeyork:hearts-xx And Thank You for the comments:animal-pa He is getting ready to take one of his baby girls to an AKC Show:DI have three of his babies and yes his kennels is spotless.He is very prowd of his Yorkies and his kennel, as he should be:aimeeyork. Who is the baby on your tag? She is beautiful.

Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 2995081)

What a strange thread, all the newbies coming out from nowhere. :confused: Lots of behind the scene action somewhere.

Originally Posted by ellabee (Post 2995120)

hi ellabee, its ellabee. your pup is so cute! i know, right? thanks!

well, Breeze, it must be the Canuck in us!! Cynical Canadians, eh? ;)

Originally Posted by ellabee (Post 2995123)

i know! although I post a little more than some...

...come on! not even a *little* funny?? :)

Originally Posted by NJames1953 (Post 2995117)

Not a newbie really been a member a year, just don't post much.
behind the scene action???
strange comment:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by ellabee (Post 2995123)

i know! although I post a little more than some...

...come on! not even a *little* funny?? :)

Originally Posted by Breeze (Post 2995126)

Well with 5 whole posts your still a newbie here to me. As for the behind the scenes action happening, I already proved that, lol Considering you have made 5 posts at YT it's kind of in appropriate to call one of mine strange but... ok.


YTers that have been here for a while can see through these type of threads and the "new" posters who come only to defend "usually bad" breeders. When they show up all at once, somethings up. Not a new thing, it's been done before and often.

Originally Posted by yorkiedame (Post 2995134)

:confused:Do you have a problem with newbies? Doesn't seem very friendly.

Originally Posted by NJames1953 (Post 2995130)

I originally posted not to defend a breeder but to call one on a lie. I bought a Yorkie from Moon Valley Kennels at a flea market, when she claims she doesn't sell at them. True she was sick and has a broken tail but I love her dearly. I usually have better things to do than post on these sites
Thank you

Originally Posted by urbnalbino (Post 2995236)

WHAT?!?! Now that's a lie if I've ever heard one. This has gotten ridiculous, out of hand, and I will NOT engage in this childishness any longer. If you have something to say about US, make sure you back it up with proof. You bought a dog from us? Give me the microchip # and TR# and date of purchase so I can look up in our records. Bet you won't do it because you don't have it.

Steven has been emailing and threatening all sorts of things to us. He told me that when his 7-day suspension is lifted, he is going to start posting all sorts of stuff about us, every day, and then, he and his little gang followers are going to take out an ad in our local newspaper linking to one of his fake websites spreading all sorts of more lies. (Give me your email address, I'll FWD all the nonsense to you.)

Steven, do what you want. Over the internet I am not afraid of you. You can spend as much money, time and resources on us as you want. Personally, I think its amusing, but my mother doesn't. She is so terrified you're going to *do* something, but I've been trying to tell her that if he's got any sense, he or his local gang members won't even come near our property. I'm glad our neighbor is a sheriff.

Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2995250)

This thread and the subjects are beginning to remind me of a Jerry Springer show:eek:

Perhaps it's time for admin to close this thread and ban some IP's.

Originally Posted by SDRichards (Post 2993393)

Hi guys this is Susan I own four Yorkies! Three came from Moon Valley Kennels. I am a friend of Betty's and became her friend after visiting the Kennel prior to purchasing my secoond yorkie. She spent a very long time on the phone trying to help me with some issues with my first Yorkie, which was not from her Kennel!!! Betty is a wonderful person and loves her Babies at the kennel. She is very honest and trustworthy and I can't stand to see her upset or hurt by the untruths that certain people want to post out of jealousy or greed or both!!! My daughter has a learning disability and Betty has helped her to express herself more clearly through those wonderful dogs at her kennel. Betty is kind and patient and so caring to everyone she meets! My daughter begs to go to see Miss Betty!! I never knew that these dogs would also allow me to make a great new friend. The kennel is sooo clean I could eat off the floor!( I am extremely picky about the hygiene since I am a nurse) I love to go and hold puppies and Momma's and also the father of my 2 boys Johnny. The most beautiful and wonderful boy yorkie you will ever see! This is a wonderful Christian family who do not deserve the terror being inflicted on them. Shame on the person from the nearby kennel who obviuosly has nothing better to do than try to destroy another's reputation! I suggest you get a life, join the YMCA , a craft class, yoga or visit a therapist and leave Betty alone! I am a very good judge of character and have not lived here all my life and am very objective and know she is not deserving of all of this. The only Betty deserves is a special place in heaven for all the good things she does. P.S. When I take my Yorkies to visit Betty they go crazy when they figure out we are going to the kennel, they hardly can contain themselves. You should see how they love her! Does that sound like a bad breeder to you!!??? I dont think so!

Originally Posted by JennyLeroux (Post 2995288)

I 100% agree with this poster. I couldn't have said it better myself. I have 2 of Betty's dogs and I highly recommend her. I am very picky about health and treatment to the animals of any breeder that I work with and I have seen her kennel and I can tell you that she works hard to ensure top quality in her dogs and has spent thousands of dollars on a system in the kennel to ensure that the dogs are in a clean living environment. She recently had a dog injured in delivery that lost his foot. She could have let him go but she is raising him and he might have to have his leg amputated and she is going to have this done once it is determined it is necessary. I could go on and on about instances that she has helped me and others with dogs. This certainly is not what has been posted in this thread.

What Steven of Grayson Kennels has done is character assassination and was done with nothing but evil and malice intent. It is quite obvious with the bait in the original post and the follows ups from multiple accounts that have been banned and his original suspended. If anything I think he has exposed himself. I know I wouldn't want to buy a dog that stirs up a mess like this. Don't you have anything better to do with your time, Steven? UrbanAlbino rebutted and gave contactable references as proof.

I come to Yorkie Talk to learn and read of Yorkies and meet other people who have strong affections for them. I really dislike seeing this type of negativity and wish the Admins would close this thread and put a stop to it. I feel confident in saying that I don't think this type of activity on the site is included in the mission of Yorkie Talk. If it is a breeder that is bad and selling dogs of poor quality or breeding dogs with known health problems I think others need to be informed but so far the only thing in this thread is ppl stirring up trouble.

As for the other poster who says they got a dog from her with a broken tail then I would appreciate it if you would post the Microchip Number.