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Wanting to find someone to breed with. Hi, I am new at this but was interested in finding someone in my area to mate with my male dog. I live in southern Ohio and was wondering, how much does someone that has a male dog get paid for his services, and where I would go about finding someone he could mate with. ;) He won't be ready to mate until April, but I am wanting to find people asap. Thanks, Ashley |
why do you wish to breed your boy? just a ?? |
breeding May I ask why he won't be ready until April? |
Hi and welcome to Yorkie Talk. Glad you found us. I like your username! Tell us about your baby boy. :) I am not a breeder but this is a common topic on this board and the breeders here can answer your question. |
Here is a recent thread that got closed but if you can ignore the "drama" there is some good info there....LOL http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17288 |
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Also to make a little extra cash... Its not all about the cash, but I guess it is a perk to spending a little bit more on your dog. Ashley~N~Toby |
I Also Was Wondering... What To Do About Him Never Impregnated A Bitch Before...does He Have To Be Vet Checked For The Quality Of His Sperm? Some People Act Like They Wouldn't Even Try With A Male That Has Never Produced A Litter, But I Personally Would Guarantee A Litter. Even If There Was Only 1 Pup The First Time I Wouldn't Except Payment Unless There Were 2 And Would Have Him Try Again. I Believe That His Father Was A Champion...i Was Told By The Woman I Bought Toby Off Of That His Father Was A Champion. But I Haven't Yet Sent Off His Papers Yet B/c I Am Waiting For Him To Change Colors First. I Was Going To Get The Silver Package W/ His Papers Though... :) |
Do you have pictures ? What are the names of his father and mother ? |
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His fathers name is Heidis Lil Harley Davidson I Do have pictures but don't know how to post the on here, They are saying they are too big or whatever. But I can send them to anyone who might be interested. He is still black and brown at 10 weeks, His b-day is 7/10/05. I am not really sure when his hair might change. His mother was on premises when we went to get him and she was brown and black. Mother weighs 5 pds. and Father weighs 4 and 1/2 pds. |
breeding First, welcome to YT...You realize a stud dog is not the best companion dog. There is the marking issue when used for breeding..and many do it because they are not neutered...having said that if you want to breed it is your decision. He is 10 weeks..FAR to young to even know if he is breed quality. Both parents can be number one champions and he still not be breed quality...the prince is not always the imagine of the King. Let him grow up..have him checked for as many genetic disorders as you can. Get his pedigree and DNA through AKC..look for a dam owner willing to take a chance on an unproven stud. Make sure the dam is screened for brucellois (doggie STD, very serious) you can advertize in the paper...best wishes |
[QUOTE=YorkieRose]First, welcome to YT...You realize a stud dog is not the best companion dog. There is the marking issue when used for breeding..and many do it because they are not neutered...having said that if you want to breed it is your decision. AMEN to that!!!! I breed cats and spraying males is a BIG issue for me. I would love to have a few beautiful males but can only take one male at a time. I think if you plan on breeding then you better also be totally prepared for the marking thing. It can be TOTALLY frustrating and nerve tweeking! I also have no idea your housing situation but if you still live at home or if you have other members in your household that THEY also have to be prepared for all the marking. It might seem not to bad and cute at first but believe me it wears thin! You can spend more money on papertowels and soap and sprays and de-smellers then you could EVER make at breeding :animal36 |
Hi and welcome you said the breeder told you your Toby was champion sired... in front of his sires name would be CH if he was, is that listed on the pedigree? If CH is not there then his dad wasnt a champ.. I suggest you do a deep search on your kids pedigree (your breeder should direct you and or answer many of your questions about where your Toby came from and enlighten you if ther was any hereditary problems). When using an outside stud many breeders will ask about your "little mans heritage" as well he should be tested for liver shunt (bile acid) and LP's. Also when you register Toby order a DNA kit from AKC. He must be DNA'd if he sires more than 3 litters a year or 10 in a life time. Hope your little man steps up and makes you proud growing up to be a well bred quality yorkie! best of luck |
Ch You do not have to have the pedigree to find out if the sire or dam is a champion...the regular litter regs will have the name of the parents and any titles will appear in front of the names. You have been given good advise here.. |
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But can you please tell me what people are looking for when they look for a stud? Also are they supposed to be checked for STD's Everytime they mate? What makes them spray all the time? Why are they not good companion dogs? Thank you all for all the great advice... |
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Champion and or show dog would have the same meaning unless the dog was shown and not finished. Most responsible breeders will required an STD before breeding to an unknown female. The test cost about $90.00 here in the northwest. Spraying happens because your little guy is not neutered and he is now "man of the house" and wants everyone to know what is his territory...That means what was once yours is now his and fair game to spray his little smell anywhere his heart desires and for that reason they are stud dogs and no longer considered trained companions. If your going to stud him buy belly bands and band him while he is in your house...it saves a lot of furniture, rug and fabric spray stains and smells from happening. hope this helps |
Welcome to a great forum where you will find passionate people who give great advice-sometimes not what we want to hear, but can still be the truth. As for studding your unproven male..you are going to have a hard time finding a responsible breeder who wil chance using their female on an unproven male whose background might not be known. I am not talking about the ch in his line. There is so much more to breeding responsibly that that. Pat and I have seen some pretty ghastly babies out of a ch. line. I am talking about all of the health issues, genetics, possible behavioral issues to name a few. You do not have to wait to see his color change to register him. If you wait that long his AKC reg will go up considerably. You can always reg his colors the same as his mother. That is what AKC has told me in the past. This might sound harsh and I do not mean to hurt anyone's feelings but-(doncha hate that "but"?) the fact that your baby has a nice personality and is frisky and cute, does not necessarily make him good breeding material. I love my male pets but I have never used them for studding so I have been able to house-train them. My studs do mark, they wear belly bands which work as a sorta diaper that needs to be changed at least 3 times a day, clean sanitary pad put on the band and after he is washed with baby wipes, allowed to dry and have powder put on him "down there". It is like having a baby in the house. In my experience, studs are a real handfull but I do love my Yorkie boys. I will not use a pet as a stud if I want him as a companion animal. So, please think twice and more before deciding to stud him out. And, there is almost NO money made in breeding Yorkies when it is done right. Give him Yorkie Smoochies from Rini's cuties. |
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I do not agree that stud dogs do not make good companion dogs, they just need good solid training, both obedience and house training. Belly bands are a godsend for some even when their males are neutered. I have two neutered males in my house and I use bellybands on them because they will mark if I don't. I find that mine will not usually "go"" with the bnds on and I let mine out throughout the day and take the bands off. I usually only have to change the pads once a day. These are neutered males though. Intact males who are well trained and come when called can also be controlled so that they do not take off everytime a female in the neighborhood goes into heat. This can be a problem for a dog who is not trained. Yorkies are small house dogs and are usually always supervised so it is different than a big dog who is ooutside alone a great deal maybe. You also do not need a champion dog to be able to breed him. If you are not interested in showing your dog and are only wanting to breed to a female who is being bred to produce pets then the pedigree and the championship lineage is not that important imo. There are a lot of people who disagree with me. They feel the pedigree is some guarantee that he is free of genetic defects but this is a misnomer. What is important is that the dog be free of genetic defects to the fullest extent possible as you would not want to pass something on to a puppy. Even though your dog is perfctly healthy if there are genetic problems in his lineage you wouldn't want to breed him because a lot of those defets skip a generation or only manifest in a small percentage of the offspring. The next thing is that he be of good temperament because if you are breeding for a pet for someone you don't want a dog with a bad temperament who may pass that personality on to his offspring. There is also a "breed standard" that the show dog clubs like to abide by in their continuing effort to "improve or perfect the breed". Tjis standard discusses primarily physical characterisitics of the "perfect" yorkie. of course there is no perfect yorkie but these fanciers believe that a dog should not be bred unless it is close to perfct with as few "faults" as possible. The breed standard can be studied at the AKC website and the YTCA website but they want the dog to be under 7 lbs, have a straight topline or back, have a silky coat as opposed to a cottony one, have a well proportined body, as long as he is tall, ears not to big, snout not too long, black and tan coloring or blue and tan as they refer to is. Anyway you are certainly smart in the way you are approaching your research and you will learn and make the decision that is right for you and your little guy. Good luck! |
Kim KIM..this is where we disagree and that is okay, right? I look at your avatar photo's and I know you looked long and hard for you Yorkies, looking for just the right look for you..and that is wise...but you do not get Yorkies as yours without the breeder paying attention to type...if breeder disregards the standard, then the Yorkie loses type and could be what many posters ask..."is my Yorkie a Silky mix"? ,Using a stud with a good pedigree in no way assures healthy pups, but it does for the most part insure Yorkies who look like Yorkies.. AND having a grandsire or great grand sire as champion does not make for a champion pedigree. Of course, there are stud dogs who make good companion..BUT that is the exception rather then the rule. Belly bands have kept alot of males happy in their homes..but nothing beats a neutered male Yorkie for a pet. I am not against people breeding if they choose..just being informed. I hate phone calls from people who say.."if I had known I would have neutered him and forgot about it"...and so much of it is dealing with the owner of the female..the worst of it is not getting a pup you were promised..Rini and I just had a friend who had to threaten a law suit to fill full the contract. There were 4 pups and no reason not to give the pup to her. |
I'm NOT a breeder and cannot offer you advise - but do want to say welcome and good luck. There are a lot of good breeders here with years of experience and good advice to help you. The breeders here all have hands on knowledge for questions such as yours.... I think these ladies are who I'd love to learn from.....I know they can help you make the best choices possible for your little guy. |
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Kim you own neutered dogs NOT intact!! you have no experience living with and or training intact dogs!!! Buy a stud Kim and then give your opinion, until then you have no experience to share on this subject! Dealing with a neutered dog is far easier than a stubborn determined stud One can spend hours and thousands on training a stud BUT all of that goes out the window once he smells "the ladies in heat" !!!! Have two studs in the same house its twice the problem! |
:animal36 Here is where I am still a little confused..... I do understand about all of the characteristics, I understand that people want a yorkie that looks like a yorkie. What I don't understand is why a dog will spray all over the house, just because he has been bred one time? :confused: Is it just with dogs that breed all the time that are like that? Let's just say I for instance that I decide after running all the tests, and seeing that after he does get a little older, that he has great genes and wouldn't put any of his offspring at risk of any complications. So I breed him once just to see.... and the puppys are beautiful. And I decided only to breed him once. Would he still mark all over the house, and would it be any different than an intact yorkie that has not been bred? I have owned a male dog for 7 years and after he was trained to go outside, he never marked in the house. He is a terripoo. Is this something that is different in yorkies alone? And my terripoo has a girlfriend that lives with him and she isn't fixed (he is) and the for the lack of better vocab. on this subject, they have sex.......and he still doesn't spray. Is this a normal behavior? And my third and final question on this subject... :confused: Would he make a good companion dog if he were only bred maybe twice a year? Or is it all the same, that if he does it at all, then he may as well do the (so called) motherload. Thank you all so much for your help on this subject. I am thankful for the constructive critisism. Any advice you give me will help me in making a responsible decision on whether or not I should take the chance and breed my yorkie. Ashley~N~Toby :aimeeyork |
My Experience I don't have a male Yorkie -- but I have a male Maltese named Codie. I had him neutered at a young age because I did not plan on breeding him. Codie has NEVER marked in the house. However, when I take him and his Yorkie sister, Katie (who is spayed), for a walk, Codie stops and every tree and fire hydrant to sniff and spray. But as for my house, Codie has NEVER EVER marked in it. Now, my friend Sal has a male Maltese too and his name is Lucky. Lucky is NOT neutered and he's about 6 years old. Over the years, I have tried to convince Sal to have Lucky neutered. Sal has not wanted to do this for (in my opinion) a very stupid reason. He didn't want to make Lucky "any less of a MAN." Sal has never bred Lucky and he has no plans to ever use him as a stud in the future. Lucky is simply a house pet.Anyway, Lucky sprays ALL over the house. Also, if there are any females in heat in the neighborhood, Lucky is a nightmare to walk because he tries to get away so that he can go pay a visit to the ladies. Sal has shelled out tons of money and had several different trainers come to his house and try to teach Lucky not to spray but all the trainers say the same thing -- you should have had him neutered. But this is the only case that I PERSONALLY know of where an intact male dog sprays. I'm sure there are some unaltered males that do not spray in homes. But I just wanted to share this story. I wish you lots of luck with your baby and whatever decision you make. |
A dog used as stud, it's not unusual for his personality to change at least somewhat. The tendency to mark their territory indoors and out is normal trait of an unneutered male (whether you use him as a stud or not its what an intact male does). Once a male has begun marking its a very difficult habit to break, so if in the case youre only thinking of one mating youve changed him most likely for life. Your little man will be more apt to wander in search of in season bitches if not well contained (total fenced area). Once a dog has mated his first bitch he will want more and more and more! Intact males have only one thing on their minds SEX (not unlike a young teen human male) once theyve discovered sex theres no going back. Then there is sexual competitiveness, where as a once passive male most likely will become more aggressive around other male dogs. |
please take these ladies advice on one thing, if you breed him he's going to mark. now that doesnt mean he isnt going to be a good little companion, just a companion with a disgusting habit. i have a stud who is my companion and he hangs out with me all day long....with a band on! he's even "marked me", lol. if you can deal with his marking then i say go for it as long as you've done your research prior. you seem to be on the right track by asking questions anyway. only thing that concerns me is that you said he is only 10 weeks old. this is just way to early to know if you will even be able to breed him someday. he will need to mature and lots of factors will need to be there. you have plenty of time to do your research and discover if your boy would be suitable for stud. just take your time and find out as much info as you can, and when the time comes you'll know what you really want to do :) |
stud dogs A male Yorkie does not have to be bred to "mark"..it is in the nature of the beast to do this..some are wonderful in the house and can stay unneutered, but he is the exception, not the norm. Once you breed a Yorkie, he will mark more often..I have had males who were bred twice a year..then owned some bred twice a month..I did not notice a different in the amount of marking. Why not wait and see how he develops and make the decision then. It is nearly impossible to line up a list of females for breeding..especially for an unproven male. |
I have been VERY fortunate and like Pat said, my Chester is not the norm. He has marked in the house once and then on me the other day. I have not had to deal with the hiking of the leg in the house but like I said, I have been very fortunate. There is very good advice here and I know that Pat, Rini and many others would be more than willing to answer any and all questions for you...even through pm-s. |
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What do you do with your stud dogs..... :D I was just wondering, some of you say that you never use a companion dog as a stud? What do you do with your studs then? Are they not your pets as well? Are they kept at? And then are these dogs used just to breed? :) I am sorry but I just am not getting this concept? Is it this way with the females as well or just for the males? Thanks, Ashley~N~Toby :animal36 |
My stud as well as all my dogs are my companions that being said there are limits. Example I took Benz to the pet store the other day he was on a harness walking along with me, next thing I know he is spraying on lanes as we go down them YIKES now that is embarrassing. About a week ago I took Cappie with me to my sisters, she has her daughter and her grandkids living with her. The kids love Cappie, he is sturdy so I dont worry about the rough housing but they are twins. We are in their back yard one twin sitting on the grass while the other twin is throwing Cappie a soccer ball on the way back from fetching the ball he lifts his leg on the other twins back side, another embarrassing moment! In my back yard there are stuffed animals stashed around everywhere, they play with them on a daily basis BUT when one of the gals are in heat the males feel free to spray every single stuffed animal (needless to say they are washed over and over again because of this nasty habit) I personally have had my leg used as a fire hydrant more ofter than I would want to admit. Does it make them any less of a great companion NO but the unruley habits do create embarrassing and very uncomfortable moments. |
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