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Lady of Yorkies 08-27-2009 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by magsy17 (Post 2760512)
So you just bred him to his daughter to see if the white was larger?:eek::thumbdown Inbreeding leads to a lot of defects in dogs it makes no sense to do it just to satisfy your curiosity.
How do people discover anything? By testing. I read about someone who has white Yorkies. It seems to me that they couldn't have purebred white Yorkies. I thought that maybe what they did was to breed two Yorkies with lots of white on them and then keep breeding until they got white Yorkies.

To see if breeding my male back to his daughter would produce more white in the babies was my purpose. It didn't work. BTW, all the babies were perfectly normal from that litter. Sylvia

BamaFan121s 08-27-2009 02:45 PM
You discover new things by working with experienced breeders and researching canine genetics, not by inbreeding just to see what would happen. There are many members here that are quite well versed in canine genetics that could have easily answered your question and pointed you in the direction of great resources to help you out. Better option, more knowledge than trying to do guesswork based on how a litter of pups turned out, and no need to experiment unnecessarily.

(Other options for expanding your knowledge and understanding would be attending seminars, often offered by guest speakers at various events, or speaking with canine reproductive specialist, which wouldn't even have to be done face to face.)

livingdustmops 08-27-2009 03:31 PM
Inbreeding problems show up down the road in future generations...not the one just bred for the most part.

You might want to purchase Malcolm B Willis's book "Genetics of the Dog" instead of just guessing. What you were searching for is written in this book. Most inbreeding causes severe health issues if breeders are not careful and again this usually shows up down the road. Also what happens with inbreeding is the litters get smaller and smaller until the bitch cannot have puppies. This is why it is so very important with a new breed/variation to be careful of inbreeding as eventually their will be no more litters.

delicatepuzzle 08-27-2009 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by magsy17 (Post 2760512)
So you just bred him to his daughter to see if the white was larger?:eek::thumbdown Inbreeding leads to a lot of defects in dogs it makes no sense to do it just to satisfy your curiosity.
Ok See now I KNEW THIS WAS WRONG! I almost bought a little girl from a breeder who was talking about breeding a male to his daughter. Or mother to her son. I told her about inbreeding and she said "no no that's with brother to sister. It messes with their mind or something" ... my thoughts were "OR SOMETHING?!?!?!?!?!"

I hope that litter was fixed before you let them go.

Lady of Yorkies 08-31-2009 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by delicatepuzzle (Post 2776241)
Ok See now I KNEW THIS WAS WRONG! I almost bought a little girl from a breeder who was talking about breeding a male to his daughter. Or mother to her son. I told her about inbreeding and she said "no no that's with brother to sister. It messes with their mind or something" ... my thoughts were "OR SOMETHING?!?!?!?!?!"

I hope that litter was fixed before you let them go.
Food for thought: Wild dogs and wolves breed to whoever. They don't recognize their parents or children as such and will breed to them.

I do not make a practice of breeding parent to child but I know there are a lot of breeders who do inbreed and linebreed. BTW, you do not breed mothers to sons, only fathers to daughters and never brother to sister. I have not looked up why because as I stated above, I do not make a practice of it, I have only done it once. I am too afraid of having deformed or mentally deficient puppies to experiment further.

Thanks to you experienced breeders for genetic advice, I will be getting some of those books as I can afford them. I will no longer be responding to this thread. Sylvia


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