Stud service question I know alot of you don't do it but I am wondering how it works when you do. Do you take payment at the time of breeding or wait until the pups are born? I have contract that requires payment when I take the bitch. I offer a return service if it does not work. Am I being reasonable? I think if my stud does his job(he is proven) and I keep the female for several days I have earned the pay. Am I wrong? Any thoughts? |
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A return breeding should be in the contract if a live litter is not produced. However, additional responsibilities are required of a stud owner: 1. Assistance in whelping should the owner of the bitch requires it. 2. If for some reason a puppy requires rehoming and the bitch's owner cannot take the pup back, it is the responsibility of the stud owner to step in. |
I would get payment 1st. And alot of people do the pick of litter but after what happen to a friend of my I am not sure I would do that. She stud out her yorkie, let the lady take him to her house, (becuase her little girl does not like other girl dog in her house) any way this ladies friend called her and said she thought her yorkie was in heat and could she take him to her house and use him. She let her, will 60 some days later the 1st lady called to tell her they had 3 puppies but said the her other friends did not take. well.....I was talk to the husband of the 1st lady that she breed to and come to find out the friends dog did take and she only had one puppy so she lied and keep it for herself!!! I would have had to take a drive to the lady's house and she would have had to face me, but my friend let it go. So what do you do when there is only one puppy?? |
I always offer for them to back up and pay the stud fee if they do not want to give me the only pup. I don't really like to do pick of the litter. The last one i did ruined it for me. I didn't get the pick of the litter she sold it before I even picked mine. Then it was like pulling teeth getting the puppy. I had to go to her house and praticaly take it. I really never thought that would happen. I talked with the lady through out the pregnacy and was even on the phone at birth. Went to see the pups several times. |
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If there is only one puppy, and the contract says pic of the litter your only option is to give the pup to the stud owner or pay the stud fee. That is if is agreeable to both parties. My dogs aren't for public stud, unless I know the owners of a bitch on a personal level, usually only with fellow exhibitors that are well known to me , approved bitches (pedigree) and have been cleared through my mentor. I have used my mentors studs and the breeding only producing one female, which is usually what my mentor wants. She usually forgoes her pic and tells me she'll wait until the next litter that will produce more than one female. That is why it is only best to do business with those you know on a personal level. |
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You are so right, I tried my best to tell her not to let me go anywhere. But at the time she has 3 dogs, had her mom living with her after knee sugery with her teenage 1/2 sister and her moms 2 dogs, her on 2 kids and husband. Her house was full!!!!! Oh, she did not even my the females she breed him to have any testing done. You try to tell people but..... what ever. At one time she was calling to check on him and no one would call her back and she did not know where the lady lived. |
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Then my opinion and it is a bit harsh, this friend of yours has no concern for her dogs.....and she got a bit of what she deserved. There is a lot of responsibility that goes with owning dogs, especially if you breed and/or allow your dogs to be used for public stud. I guess she was unconcerned about her stud's contracting a disease. |
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In figuring out a stud fee,does it equal the cost of 1 puppy or do you charge more or less? |
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the stud fee is lower most of the time around here, and I have even seen Champion's studed out for cheaper than what a puppy would cost. Most around here is $500 or pick of litter. many years ago my husband had a Bulldog, they run $1500 and up, we breed her with a Champion and it was cheaper for me to pay the fee of $500 then a puppy. |
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I've seen stud fee's on the top yorkie studs above $,1500. |
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That is what she is asking right, studing her stud out?? |
I was not asking how much for my stud but just out of curiosity wondering how others decided what to charge. I would consider that a personal matter and would pm respected breeders for their opinions. |
I am sorry I hope you did not take what I was saying wrong. I was just trying to point out what all you would have to look at in the stud, that every one would be different. Sorry if I upset you. I was just giving my input. |
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You are right, her stud is not a Champion, even though he is from a Champion background. Since that is the case, she should charge her fee according to her geographical location. Here's another thought, and a rule that some very reputable breeders use, if the stud has not been proven, the possibility of not charging a stud fee should be considered. As far as what I think she should charge, I think she should determine that herself. |
thank you for clearing that up for me. And you are right again. Many things come into pay with that fee. |
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Here's something I found: The rule of thumb on stud service prices is the fee is the equivalent of the price of a puppy. This may vary based on the record of the dog's previous production results, the showing record, and your desire to have him used for the first time. The cost of the shipping of the bitch should not alter the stud fee. That is merely one of the expenses of being a breeder. |
When you stud out your male there are always risks that your male could sire a liver shunt puppy or a puppy with other genetic defects. Does the stud owner take any responsibility for this? Is anything ever put in the stud contract to cover these issues? How do other breeders handle this? |
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Producing a LS puppy is devistating, but it's how you as a breeder handle these situations. |
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possible future breeder Mardelin: You seem very knowledge about breeding yorkies. I have a 7 mo/5 lb yorkie. She is my first yorkie and I have fallen in love with her. I was thinking about letting her have one litter at some point in the future but I have concerns regarding breeding, as I only want her to be safe and healthy. I have been told not to breed yorkies if they are 5 lbs or under. Per the weight charts she has been pretty much on track that she'll be six pounds when fully grown. What is your advice regarding safe weight/size for the potential mother to be? Thanks |
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So, if you can expand on your info, I'll do my best. |
what other information do you need? Her parents were both 5 lbs. She seems to be in excellent health... What does one need to know exactly about their dog to make sure the dog and her puppies are healthy before allowing them to breed? Thank you. |
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Does she come from a line of free whelpers Have all the necessary tests been performed on her and the stud. Bile Acids, hips and knees x-rayed, eyes and ears tested. Are you willing to lose her and the litter? Why do you want to breed her? Have you studied everything you can about breeding, genetics, whelping? The yorkie is not a breed you can breed pheno type to pheno type and know what you're going to get. |
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